Every now and then while searching for something on the blog I come across an old thread and start reading, including the comments.
Thus, this post. Obama’s campaign year was 2008 and then of course his election, while early 2009 represented the first months of the Obama administration. If we’re trying to recall exactly what we said and how we felt back then, memory can play tricks. So I thought it would be an instructive exercise for me to post some of those comments and illustrate some of what was being said on this blog.
Here’s one by a commenter who used to be very active here, “southern james,” written about a week before the election of 2008. It turns out that not only is he describing the 2008 election, but also the 2012 one and beyond (including some conversations I’ve had with people recently):
…“The One” isn’t going to be swept into office by “far leftists” (of course he’ll get a huge assist)…
But of the millions upon millions who vote for this disaster, the HUGE ENORMOUS and vast majority of them are going to be well meaning, uncomplicated souls, who are not particularly educated; who don’t follow politics very much; who never read political blogs; what little daily news they do glean comes from short pops of CNN or CBS or ABC or NBC…
And they have been oblivious to all the non-stop, 24/7 propaganda that has been pounded into their heads. For example, they see Sarah get mocked and ridiculed on the comedy channels and late night talk shows and SNL”¦and they see biased edited snippets of her stumbling through a hostile interview filled with questions a Dem would never get challenged with”¦and so I overhear my secretaries say”¦”she doesn’t seem too smart, does she””¦..(and they haven’t been exposed to Biden AT ALL!)”¦”¦and then”¦ “Now Obama, HE just SEEMS so calm and smart, and you know ”“ we need a change from Bush, and people say McCain is a lot like Bush.” (without even realizing where they have been hearing that”¦”¦over and over and over and over again)
They do not understand what “Socialism” or “Marxism” even is ”“ just that it has always sounded kind of icky ”“ wasn’t that back, like, in you know, Russia or whatever?? ”“ “But, then Ed from the loading dock was talking to Lois, our receptionist the other day, and he really follows this politics stuff you know”¦ and HE was sayin, ”˜if someone is in the Army that’s socialism, and so is the Post Office, so this is just some McCain thing to scare people about Obama’, and so, you know, like, I don’t see what is so bad about 95% of us getting a tax cut ”“ hardly anybody makes over $250,000 anyhow and they can afford it. And anyway, we need a change and we need to end that war, and who wants more of Bush anyway! This economy is all his fault, right? And I’ve heard that McCain is just like Bush, and that Sarah ”“ she’s kind of scary because she just doesn’t seem too smart ”“ and my cousin Dan said she thinks Dinosaurs walked on the earth with humans!! Can you believe it?!!”
It is really that simplistic and basic. People on sites like THIS, think deeply and thoughtfully”¦”¦But “The One” is going to get tens of millions of votes from perfectly nice ignoramuses like my two secretaries, or the guy who bags your groceries, or changes your oil, whose political discussions are at about the level I just illustrated above.
I’m not saying most of the voters on the other side are not the exact same way. I’m saying, you have to appeal to simplistic gut emotions.
In fact, you might want to read the entire thread that comment came from. I was surprised at how prescient and insightful many of the comments were, even way back then. The post isn’t half-bad, either.
Here’s a comment from “FredHJr,” who needs no introduction to most of the readers here. It was made in March of 2009, two months into Obama’s tenure as president:
THE core of Obama support is the under-30 voter, urban, and single female. The cities and the universities are solidly supportive of him.
Never underestimate the power of large numbers of kids who are indoctrinated, poorly educated (even if they have degrees or on their way to getting them), and lacking in a lot of life experience. ACORN really signed these people up big time. Also, ACORN did massive work in the ghettos of minorities and illegal immigrants.
It was not the economy that did in George Bush and his party. Why? Because Obama’s popularity was already solid long before the economy was even on the radar screen. It was the war. The very day after 9/11 the Left was already hard at work building the anti-war coalitions, and on college and university campuses this was already up and running. Then, the MSM went to work on George Bush and his party, selling the alternate reality. Everything else, which was substantial, was ancillary to that major theme: the war. Guantanamo, “torture,” electronic eavesdropping, the Patriot Act, etc. No effort was spared to create an atmosphere where George Bush and his party were made to look buffoonish or criminal. In truth, sometimes George Bush did make mistakes and he was especially wrong on the issue of illegal immigration. Thus, you had a considerable minority of Republicans who already were inclined to simply not vote.
I have a hard time assigning malevolent motives to most of the kids. However, to most of their teachers and professors I have an easy time assigning malevolent motives, simply because I got to know that culture very, very well and noted their revolutionary intent.
Antonio Gramsci really did have the right blueprint. Lenin and Stalin did not. By the time Andropov and Gorbachev were true disciples of Gramsci, it was too late for the Soviet Union. But Gramsci’s work has been an astounding success.
About a week later I wrote the following (it was April Fools’ Day, but the post and the comments were very serious):
Although I remain open to evidence to the contrary, for now my working hypothesis is that Obama is a man of the Left, that he is insufficiently devoted to the age-old American idea of liberty but is instead a committed statist, and that the mind-numbing pace of his change is deliberate and has been effective so far…
…[Obama] knows that those [voters] more in the middle will not be noticing much, until the deeds are done. And he is counting on them to look away and hope for the best. The question is whether his pace is fast enough, and whether they will catch on””and whether they will then understand what is happening, or care. Or will the predictions of the Grand Inquisitor come to pass in this country, as they have in so many others?
From “Roy Lofquist” on April 1, 2009:
Nobody has mentioned one of the most blatant and disturbing of his power grabs ”“ the appointment of Czars and commissions. These take powers that are normally lodged in the Cabinet, which is subject to Senate confirmation, and given to his own selected people.
Senator Byrd sent a letter to Obama complaining specifically about this, proclaiming that this looked like an attempt to subvert the Congress’ overview authority.
Oh, I bet Obama really paid attention to that letter—not. It was probably a relief to him when Byrd died about a year later, however.
The following comment by “southern james” is great; he writes about recognizing Cuba, and thinks it will happen in Obama’s second term. Well, Obama waited till the 2014 elections, but nevertheless I would say touché, southern james!:
The blistering pace of new sh”“t cooked up out of thin air, thrown out on virtually a daily basis just won’t let up. This morning’s misdirection “look ”“ over there!!” is an announcement that it APPEARS that fully open travel and open relations with Cuba is suddenly, for some unknown and unexplained reason, going to be pushed and pushed hard, to happen NOW.
NOW! Not after a period of measured and well thought-out, intelligent debate and consideration. But”¦right now. Crammed down our throats. Intantly. Like the stimulus bill.
Why isn’t anyone in the main stream press asking “Why?” or “Why Now,” with everything else on our plates? What’s the rush? Can this topic not wait until we have G-20, N Korea, General Motors, etc, etc, etc, issues resolved?
So it happens”¦unless”¦there is a whole lot of outcry. And then”¦.it gets quietly withdrawn. For now. For the moment. But the waters get tested ”“ the concept gets floated ”“ and notes are taken on how to approach it again next year, or the year after, or perhaps right after the re-election. And, just as when the idea of making Vets pay for their own medical care for their injuries idea went “poof” ”“ as far as Pravda arm of the Obama Admin is concerned (aka the MSM) ”“ it never occurred at all.
Can you even begin to imagine the flurry of sh”“t that will get done via executive orders/pardons, etc., when (if?) this guy finally becomes a lame duck? It will make Bill Clintons actions like the Marc Rich et al nonsense look like a Siesta in comparison.
I really don’t WANT to get all paranoid, and become a conservative version of those left wing moonbats who were convinced that Bush/Rove/Cheney only went to Iraq to enrich their oil buddies; 911 was “an inside job”; the Neocons are going to impose a christianist theocracy, etc. I’m fighting it. I’m fighting it hard. But I’m starting to lose.
Yes, we’ve been talking about this stuff for a long, long time. And although it’s scant comfort—and Cassandra-like, it hasn’t done a particle of good in terms of preventing any of it from happening—this is a blog, and this is what we do. Recognizing the problem of who the left is and the actions it’s taking and why is the first step, after all.