I’ve never read anything by Bret Easton Ellis before. One reason is that I don’t like fiction all that much unless it’s fabulous, and I definitely don’t like violent fiction, which by all accounts American Psycho (Ellis’s most popular novel) is:
American Psycho…[was] published in 1991. The story is told in the first person by Patrick Bateman, a serial killer and Manhattan businessman. The Observer notes that while “some countries [deem it] so potentially disturbing that it can only be sold shrink-wrapped”, “critics rave about it” and “academics revel in its transgressive and postmodern qualities”.
Most definitely not my cup of tea.
And that was the sum total of what I knew about Bret Easton Ellis until today, when this Rolling Stone interview with Ellis caught my eye.
This is not what I expected to see:
Q: You tweeted that you were done discussing politics with liberals at dinner. Is it because everyone plays the role of knee-jerk shock and outrage?
A: Completely. I live with a Trump-hating, millennial socialist. I am not, as my boyfriend will tell everyone, political. I’m interested in the theater of it, how each side plays the game, and how the media has morphed with it. I have never seen liberals be more annoying than they are now. These last few weeks really were a flipping point for me, with the depression over the Supreme Court and the way the detention centers were being spun by the liberal media. It’s obviously a game. Here’s Rachel Maddow crying on TV, and pictures of Trump detention centers. My stepfather, who is a Polish Jew, had his entire family wiped out when he was an infant. Throwing around words like Nazi, Gestapo and comparisons to Weimar Germany is like, “Really guys? You’re going there?” I’ve had enough. I think there’s a reason why the #WalkAway movement is getting it’s ten seconds of fame, because there’s a real reaction toward the stridency of how Democrats are expressing their disappointment. It’s turning a lot of people off.
Q:As a gay man, what if your right to marry is suddenly taken away? Doesn’t that anger you on a primal level?
A: That is suggesting that I believe in identity politics, and that I vote with my penis. It’s suggesting that immigration, the economy and other policies matter so much less than whether I can marry a man. It’s not something that I worry about, or is on my mind. That’s the problem with identity politics, and it’s what got Hillary into trouble. If you have a vagina, you had to vote for Hillary. This has seeped into a bedrock credo among a lot of people, and you’ve gotta step back. People are not one-issue voters. I am not going to vote as a gay man, and I don’t think the idea of us not being allowed to marry is going to happen. Pence has his issues, but Trump is not an anti-gay president in any way, shape or form. I also have gay friends who support and voted for Trump, based on certain policies. It’s not just about being gay and being able to marry.
Refreshing common sense. But common sense seems much less common these days than it used to be.
I said it wasn’t the sort of thing I expected to see, and that was because although I knew very little about Ellis except a vague recollection of reviews of his book and the movie based on it, I’m so used to people in the arts toeing the complete liberal/left line. He’s in the arts. But he certainly doesn’t toe the line. Nor does he seem to be any sort of Trump supporter, either (although he’s a bit cryptic about that, saying only this: “yes. Bateman [Ellis’s fictional serial killer] adores Trump, and his idol is president.” Doesn’t sound like much of an endorsement, though.
But thinking about it further, maybe that “transgressive” aspect of his work is responsible for Ellis having the “f-you” attitude that allows him to speak his mind without worrying about the PC crowd. As he says in another part of the interview, “My work really rubs people the wrong way, and my social persona has rubbed people the wrong way. I have to be true to myself.”
Interesting.
