[See UPDATE below.]
lllinois police have arrested a 17-year-old after two people were shot to death during another night of Black Lives Matter protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Kyle Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, was taken into custody Wednesday in Illinois on suspicion of first-degree intentional homicide…
Two victims in the shooting, a 26-year-old Silver Lake resident and a 36-year-old Kenosha resident, died following the shooting.
A 26-year-old West Allis resident suffered non-life-threatening injuries.
Police said their investigation is ongoing. They do not know if both of the people killed were killed by the same person.
Video footage may indicate a self-defense situation for the second killing, but even if that’s the case, I’m not sure that Rittenhouse wouldn’t be charged with murder anyway. That’s the way things have been going these days. Here’s one description of the video:
Cellphone video circulated on social media showing a young, White male running down the street with a long gun, as he was chased by demonstrators from behind. He fell to the ground, and someone tried to grab his weapon and came at him with a fly-kick. The individual then opened fire in the middle of the street, and screams could be heard from the frantic crowd.
As usual, this is just a fragment of what occurred. I’m waiting for more information and for the fog to clear before I give an opinion on what may have actually happened and why.
As usual with these things, the British Daily Mail has more information than the American papers. It’s not always correct, but in the past I’ve generally found the British source to be more reliable as well. Here’s what it’s adding at the moment:
–The arrest of the teen came hours after video emerged of him walking up to police with his hands in the air and his rifle slung across his body just moments after the shooting
–He was apparently allowed to walk by despite members of the crowd yelling for him to be arrested because he had shot people, according to witness accounts and video footage
–Footage from earlier in the night appeared to show the teen guarding a local car shop with a group of armed militia members
–Another video showed police thanking an armed group, of which the teenager appeared to be part of, and offered them water…Much of Rittenhouse’s Facebook page is devoted to praising law enforcement, with references to Blue Lives Matter – the movement that supports police. He also can be seen holding an assault rifle in several photos…
Witness accounts and video show that the shootings took place in two stages: The gunman first shot someone at a car lot, then jogged away, stumbled and fell in the street, and opened fire again as members of the crowd closed in him.
Police apparently then let the young man walk past them with a rifle over his shoulder with his hands in the air.
…As for why the gunman was allowed to leave, Sheriff David Beth on Wednesday portrayed a chaotic, high-stress scene, with screaming, chanting, nonstop radio raffic and ‘people running all over the place’ – conditions that can cause ‘tunnel vision’ among law officers.
Rittenhouse [was] identified in court papers as a lifeguard at a YMCA in Lindenhurst, Illinois…
It is not yet clear what happened in the lead up to the initial shooting but police fear it may have stemmed from a conflict at a gas station between ‘self-styled militias’ defending local businesses from looters…
So we have very little idea about the first shooting; the second seems to have been the result of a chain of events in reaction to the first. I’m surprised that more of this sort of thing hasn’t happened already. The situation is a powder keg that has been allowed to become extremely dangerous. I note, also, that many of the witnesses or victims (plus Rittenhouse himself) mentioned or quoted in the article do not appear to live in Kenosha. If this is typical, it’s as I suspected.
[ADDENDUM: From some of the comments in a thread at RedState:
…[A]pparently there were two separate shootings by this guy – one when he’s first confronted in the dealership parking lot and another after he’d run a ways into the street. The second one appears clearly to be self defense, the first one is ambiguous from the video and will require more evidence -e.g. additional video, testimony from eye witnesses, etc.
…[in] the first shooting in the parking lot he’s already been running away from a pursuer before turning and firing shots after the pursuer throws something at him. That also seems like a pretty strong case of self-defense, though not quite as strong as the shooting a few seconds later of people actually attacking him lying on the ground.
It’s two separate incidents. [Rittenhouse] killed the first guy after [the first guy] threw the Molotov cocktails at him. The other two were shot during his retreat running down the street. One of those died as well.]
UPDATE:
Here’s an analysis at RedState by shipwreckedcrew. It concerns both shootings. An excerpt:
As is almost always the case, the “hot takes,” which hit Twitter in the first minutes after an incident such as this, are almost always wrong…
The first fact you see from the video is that the shooter was chased by the person he shot, and as they passed through the parking lot of the boarded-up gas station, the “victim” threw something at the shooter. There are reports that the item thrown was an unlit “Molotov Cocktail,” but you can’t know for sure from the video.
It seems like the shooter points the rifle at the “victim” at that point but does not fire. He instead turns to run again, and the “victim” continues to chase him. At that point, you hear the gunfire start, but you can’t see what happens. You hear a single shot, then four shots in rapid succession followed by three more shots in rapid succession. It seems like there is only one firearm, but I can’t be certain from the audio.
[There] is a video that supposedly shows the car lot being vandalized a few moments before the first shooting incident…
The shooter was apparently attempting to protect this business, and the “victim” was one of the individuals in this group damaging cars. I have seen Twitter comments claiming that the “victim” and others were preparing to start lighting some of the cars on fire when the shooter stepped in to intervene. What happened during that initial intervention is not recorded on video anywhere that I have found, but that confrontation ended with the “victim” chasing the shooter out of the car lot and down the street. That is where the YouTube video at the top first captures the two, leading directly to the first shooting in the gas station parking lot where the “victim” was killed.
The nature of that first confrontation in the parking lot is important to the overall event. If the shooter was threatened with violence, and then chased down the street to the gas station, he very likely has a strong case for self-defense. The “victim” is the aggressor, and the nature of their initial confrontation will establish the extent to which the shooter can claim he feared serious injury or death if he had not defended himself in the way he did. The actions of the “victim” in the car lot will also be significant. If there is video of him engaging in violent acts of vandalism that the shooter observed, the case for self-defense improves as well.
Again, under Wisconsin law, the shooter had not committed any illegal act by being present on the streets of Kenosha carrying a loaded long-gun…
As for the second shooting episode, the shooter is clearly attempting to get away from the people who are pursuing him. Who all those people were will be difficult to establish with certainty, but there are numerous videos with audio that captured what they were yelling.
This is the video that has been most widely circulated…
There seems to be little question about whether the shooter had anything to fear from those pursuing him. One individual managed to catch up to him and appears to try to hit him in the back of the head with some object. He evades that person and continues to run down the street, but then seems to stumble and fall. You can clearly hear someone yell, “Get his ass” at that point. The shooter gets himself into a seated position facing back at the people pursing him. The closest pursuer manages to run over the top of him, with both of them going down, but the shooter maintaining possession of his long gun. At that point, at least three different pursuers closed in on him from three different directions — all closing to within approximately 10 feet of him. A second individual attempts to grab the long-gun away from the shooter, but he still has the shoulder strap around his body.
It is hard to tell from the video, but it seems like the second individual is shot as a result of the long-gun discharging while they both have their hands on it, with the muzzle pointed at the second individual. He “runs” only a couple steps before he goes down in the street, and he does not move again during the remainder of the video while he is in the frame of the camera.
The shooter fires a few more shots as the people who were pursuing him all scatter in different directions.
There’s much more at the link. Shipwreckedcrew is a lawyer who’s quite knowledgeable about these things. I suggest you read the whole thing.
