Rosemary Sutcliff did the Odyssey and the IIiad . Much improved.
Nolan’s done some really amazing movies, but I think he’s totally jumping the shark this time around.
The movie has already accumulated a lot of negative press and controversy before it’s even out. And I’m sure there’s some positive press, but that kind of thing is usually from people who don’t actually care about the media, per se, but about scoring Cultural Marxism points.
Oopsies…
(…and just another reason why the NY Post has become the nation’s “paper of record” (along with the Babylon Bee):
As alluded to in the video Nolan’s objective in creating this monstrosity can be stated very clearly and succinctly: He’s trying to collect as many academy awards as possible. If he somehow fails in that endeavor that alone will be a huge story. With last year’s award to Amy Madigan, if this thing fails to bestow an award to Ellen Page I’d be left dumbstruck.
The definitive Odessey is O Brother, Where Art Thou?.
One vote here for the Lattimore translation. Word-for-wor style somehow also better conveys the dignity of the original.
The film score killed the movie for me at the first note. I wonder how Nausicaa is handled? If Nolan messes that up, I’m done. OK, I lied, I’m already done 🙂
I can’t wait not to see this epic … twice.
@om: The cyclops as a klansman [in “O Brother, Where Art Thou”].
In James Joyce’s “Ulysses,” his very loose adaptation of the Odyssey to a 24-hour day in Dublin, the cyclops was a half-blind Irish Nationalist, who hated everyone insufficiently Irish by his judgement, especially Jews.
Joyce’s choice of Leopold Bloom, a Jew as Odysseus/Ulysses, to be the main and most sympathetic character in “Ulysses,” stands as an act of great literary courage.
The petersen version of troy looks much better with one of peter o tooles last performance
Hes relying on emily wilson which is a terrible translation
Zendaya lupita y yongo ellen page are they putting us on
Its like leonard pinth garnell really bad cinema
Hollywood is burning themselves to ash. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Academy ceases to exist in less than a decade.
Yep, far better off with a Joycean film version; (1967) Ulysses [1:59:51]
featuring Milo O’Shea as Bloom, Maurice Roëves as Stephen Dedalus
Even if, I hasten to add, it’s akin to settling for Spike Jones’ version of Cocktails for Two over the original.
John Hinderaker has an article on Massie
“I don’t think the problem is Massie’s libertarian leaning. I think, rather, it has to do with the fact that Massie voted for what would have been the largest tax increase in American history; that he voted with the Democrats to purport to end military action in Iran; that he succumbed to Epstein obsession; and that he is, to put the most charitable face on it, bitterly anti-Israel, having been the only Republican to vote against a resolution of support for Israel after the October 7 attacks, the only House member of either party to vote against a resolution condemning anti-Semitism, and the only Republican to vote against the Iron Dome Supplemental Appropriations Act.”
Zendaya lupita y yongo ellen page are they putting us on
— Miguel cervantes
I don’t know about Zendaya as Athena. A young person is just as reasonable a casting as an older one for an immortal goddess, after all. I haven’t seen enough of Zendaya’s acting to have an opinion on her.
As for Ellen/’Elliott’ Page, as Achilles…well, what can be said?
It is what it is. Nolan is trying for an Oscar, and that’s what the Academy requires now.
Plus that’s modern Hollywood. Same reason we got Pedro Pascal (who, sadly, does have some talent as an actor and is throwing it away) kissing Colbert on TV.
Yeah, that’s the way to promote a movie that will, if it’s to make a profit, have to appeal primarily to young straight men.
Here’s another instance of Hollywood weirdness now:
Why Does Everyone In Hollywood Suddenly Look The Same?
Jay Fett is a YouTuber movie reviewer and influencer. Her video about the current facial alterations answered a question I had been wondering about, specifically why so many formerly beautiful actresses and models suddenly look like they just stepped out of the Uncanny Valley.
Not just older ones, either, often this is women in their 20s, though older actresses are doing it too.
Buccal Fat Removal. It explains why the cheekbones suddenly look like mountains, the cheeks sunken, and their smile suddenly looks creepy. I had noticed it but I didn’t know the why until I saw this.
I had noticed the lip filler thing too. Suddenly a lot of young women, pretty ones, looked as if they had just taken a punch in the mouth.
I would rather watch films from Bollywood, at least they’re entertaining. If I want a Leftist lecture I can just go to Obama’s X account.
** …except, perhaps, why Palestinian nationalism is so precious while the Israeli variety is to be—ASAP—relegated to the trash heap of history…
I confess I’ve never gotten why Nolan has such a great rep. Now, I’ve not seen that many of his films, and the only one that really sticks in my mind is “Dunkirk”. Honestly, it stank to high heaven. Both as drama and as history. Contrary to what Nolan shows, not very many of the ships that showed up were sunk. The importance of the boats – “the little ships” – lay in their use to ferry men out to larger ships, which could not get inshore to get them. MOST of the men got back in actual ships.
And dramatically, it never made any sense. I never did get the ending, of one plane flying along the coast. (IIRC, a Spitfire, which were almost never thrown in.)
Definitely looking forward to missing this one when it comes out (as also “Animal Farm”). The ludicrous idea that a rap artist (!) has anything in common with an ancient Greek bard … ! I don’t need to hear any more stupidities than that, but alas there seem to be no end to them (dumbed-down dialogue, refusal to attempt an elevated tone, perverse casting-choice for “white-armed Helen,” as Homer calls her in the Iliad). It’s funny to see even the tone-deaf “Troy” of some 20 years ago (in which there were no gods!) held up as preferable, in some respects, to Nolan’s Odyssey.
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Rosemary Sutcliff did the Odyssey and the IIiad . Much improved.
Nolan’s done some really amazing movies, but I think he’s totally jumping the shark this time around.
The movie has already accumulated a lot of negative press and controversy before it’s even out. And I’m sure there’s some positive press, but that kind of thing is usually from people who don’t actually care about the media, per se, but about scoring Cultural Marxism points.
Oopsies…
(…and just another reason why the NY Post has become the nation’s “paper of record” (along with the Babylon Bee):
“Former BLM activist goes scorched earth on ‘scam’ group, insists systemic racism in US isn’t real”—
https://nypost.com/2026/05/14/us-news/ex-blm-activist-goes-scorched-earth-on-scam-group-insists-systemic-racism-in-us-isnt-real/
As alluded to in the video Nolan’s objective in creating this monstrosity can be stated very clearly and succinctly: He’s trying to collect as many academy awards as possible. If he somehow fails in that endeavor that alone will be a huge story. With last year’s award to Amy Madigan, if this thing fails to bestow an award to Ellen Page I’d be left dumbstruck.
The definitive Odessey is O Brother, Where Art Thou?.
“She run off.”
“You ain’t the boss of me.”
The cyclops as a klansman.
Holly Hunter as Penelope.
And a glorious soundtrack.
Curt Thomson, as in Ellen/Elliot Page. Sigh.
https://x.com/i/status/2054943206660550766
Here a link to a short documentary film on the 10/7/23 attack on Israel (1:26:52), titled “Pogrom(s)”, by Pierre Rehov.
Nolan’s breakout film, “Memento” (2000), was a great puzzle film that paid off. Plus a great cast, particularly starring Guy Pearce.
But for me all his later films were just way too clever and back-patting. A fine film technician with delusions of intellectual grandeur.
Here’s hoping he’s gone too far this time.
Polymarket: Thomas Massie Now Predicted to LOSE Reelection (Buh-Bye!)
Apparently, an ex-girlfriend has made an appearance. LOL
Go Gallrein
https://pjmedia.com/scott-pinsker/2026/05/14/polymarket-thomas-massie-now-predicted-to-lose-reelection-buh-bye-n4952849
One vote here for the Lattimore translation. Word-for-wor style somehow also better conveys the dignity of the original.
The film score killed the movie for me at the first note. I wonder how Nausicaa is handled? If Nolan messes that up, I’m done. OK, I lied, I’m already done 🙂
I can’t wait not to see this epic … twice.
@om: The cyclops as a klansman [in “O Brother, Where Art Thou”].
In James Joyce’s “Ulysses,” his very loose adaptation of the Odyssey to a 24-hour day in Dublin, the cyclops was a half-blind Irish Nationalist, who hated everyone insufficiently Irish by his judgement, especially Jews.
Joyce’s choice of Leopold Bloom, a Jew as Odysseus/Ulysses, to be the main and most sympathetic character in “Ulysses,” stands as an act of great literary courage.
The petersen version of troy looks much better with one of peter o tooles last performance
Hes relying on emily wilson which is a terrible translation
Zendaya lupita y yongo ellen page are they putting us on
Its like leonard pinth garnell really bad cinema
Hollywood is burning themselves to ash. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Academy ceases to exist in less than a decade.
Yep, far better off with a Joycean film version; (1967) Ulysses [1:59:51]
featuring Milo O’Shea as Bloom, Maurice Roëves as Stephen Dedalus
https://youtu.be/h7xAM_eXuuk
Even if, I hasten to add, it’s akin to settling for Spike Jones’ version of Cocktails for Two over the original.
John Hinderaker has an article on Massie
“I don’t think the problem is Massie’s libertarian leaning. I think, rather, it has to do with the fact that Massie voted for what would have been the largest tax increase in American history; that he voted with the Democrats to purport to end military action in Iran; that he succumbed to Epstein obsession; and that he is, to put the most charitable face on it, bitterly anti-Israel, having been the only Republican to vote against a resolution of support for Israel after the October 7 attacks, the only House member of either party to vote against a resolution condemning anti-Semitism, and the only Republican to vote against the Iron Dome Supplemental Appropriations Act.”
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2026/05/has-the-times-gone-libertarian.php
New UFO videos: Deep analysis with Ross Coulthart | Reality Check – Video
https://commoncts.blogspot.com/2026/05/new-ufo-videos-deep-analysis-with-ross.html
— Miguel cervantes
I don’t know about Zendaya as Athena. A young person is just as reasonable a casting as an older one for an immortal goddess, after all. I haven’t seen enough of Zendaya’s acting to have an opinion on her.
As for Ellen/’Elliott’ Page, as Achilles…well, what can be said?
It is what it is. Nolan is trying for an Oscar, and that’s what the Academy requires now.
Plus that’s modern Hollywood. Same reason we got Pedro Pascal (who, sadly, does have some talent as an actor and is throwing it away) kissing Colbert on TV.
Yeah, that’s the way to promote a movie that will, if it’s to make a profit, have to appeal primarily to young straight men.
Here’s another instance of Hollywood weirdness now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5EjH-wBdN8%5D
Why Does Everyone In Hollywood Suddenly Look The Same?
Jay Fett is a YouTuber movie reviewer and influencer. Her video about the current facial alterations answered a question I had been wondering about, specifically why so many formerly beautiful actresses and models suddenly look like they just stepped out of the Uncanny Valley.
Not just older ones, either, often this is women in their 20s, though older actresses are doing it too.
Buccal Fat Removal. It explains why the cheekbones suddenly look like mountains, the cheeks sunken, and their smile suddenly looks creepy. I had noticed it but I didn’t know the why until I saw this.
I had noticed the lip filler thing too. Suddenly a lot of young women, pretty ones, looked as if they had just taken a punch in the mouth.
I would rather watch films from Bollywood, at least they’re entertaining. If I want a Leftist lecture I can just go to Obama’s X account.
This should answer any lingering questions**…
“The UN’s Architecture To Annihilate The West”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uns-architecture-annihilate-west
** …except, perhaps, why Palestinian nationalism is so precious while the Israeli variety is to be—ASAP—relegated to the trash heap of history…
I confess I’ve never gotten why Nolan has such a great rep. Now, I’ve not seen that many of his films, and the only one that really sticks in my mind is “Dunkirk”. Honestly, it stank to high heaven. Both as drama and as history. Contrary to what Nolan shows, not very many of the ships that showed up were sunk. The importance of the boats – “the little ships” – lay in their use to ferry men out to larger ships, which could not get inshore to get them. MOST of the men got back in actual ships.
And dramatically, it never made any sense. I never did get the ending, of one plane flying along the coast. (IIRC, a Spitfire, which were almost never thrown in.)
Definitely looking forward to missing this one when it comes out (as also “Animal Farm”). The ludicrous idea that a rap artist (!) has anything in common with an ancient Greek bard … ! I don’t need to hear any more stupidities than that, but alas there seem to be no end to them (dumbed-down dialogue, refusal to attempt an elevated tone, perverse casting-choice for “white-armed Helen,” as Homer calls her in the Iliad). It’s funny to see even the tone-deaf “Troy” of some 20 years ago (in which there were no gods!) held up as preferable, in some respects, to Nolan’s Odyssey.