Thinking more about the video I posted yesterday, I noticed this comment by “John Tyler”:
No point in really in trying to understand what motivates the adherents of wokeness, Nazism, communism, ANTIFA’ism, BLM’ism, etc. , because any sentient carbon based life form realizes what their end goals are.
No point in even trying to discuss what are the logical inconsistencies of these political socio-economic theologies because their adherents are immune to – or more likely do not care – about what non-adherents have to say, irrespective of the logical elegance of any arguments pointing out the deficiencies in their beliefs.
You cannot argue or debate a pseudo-religious belief system!!
It’s like arguing for/against the existence of God; one either believes or does not.
No, you cannot argue with such a person – if by “argue” you mean in the conventional sense of using reason and logic, those quaint (and apparently racist – who knew?) notions.
But I strongly disagree with the idea that there’s no point in really trying to understand what motivates them, “because any sentient carbon based life form realizes what their end goals are.” Perhaps my definition of “sentient” is different from Tyler’s, but I know plenty of people who appear to be quite sentient and who have no idea what the end goal is. They think the end goal is racial harmony, for example. Now, you can mock them all you want, but the vast majority of people who feel this way (“useful idiots,” as the Communists would say) have no idea whatsoever what the endpoint is. And the support of those people is vital to the activists. They count on that support and actively court it by coming up with such monikers as “Black Lives Matter,” which plays into this desire for an end to racism and suffering.
These unaware supporters include some people who place BLM signs on their porches, but an even greater number don’t go that far and yet they regularly vote for Democrats both locally and nationally, and fail to object when white-hating programs are implemented in their children’s classrooms. You can call them stupid or any other name you wish, but they are not stupid – merely idealistic, somewhat uninformed, and gullible.
I also think they are reachable, if they were to learn what underlies the goals and slogans of activists in movements such as BLM and the “anti-racism” educators. Those are discussions anyone can have with these unaware supporters. The discussions might not bear fruit, but in most cases you would not be arguing with an activist or someone who is familiar with the concepts involved. The majority are probably like those friends of mine who know only this about Antifa: that the name means “anti-fascist,” and so the group is probably fighting the good fight against hatred. The MSM endeavors to keep most people ignorant, and so it’s up to the right (and anyone else who is aware and not on board) to tell them what’s going on.
There’s another reason to try to understand, and that involves the next generation. If you are alert to the sorts of philosophies and areas of study (“critical” this and “critical” that) that are involved, you can teach your children or grandchildren what they mean and how to guard against them, so that they are forewarned and forearmed. You can also notice whether a certain school system or university is buying into this stuff, and try to bring to the public’s attention exactly what’s happening and why it’s both wrong and dangerous.
Lastly, if you ever find yourself in a confrontation with a True Believer, it can be helpful to know as much as possible about what they’re saying and what lies beneath – especially if there are onlookers who are paying attention. No, “You cannot argue or debate a pseudo-religious belief system,” as Tyler says. But you can confound them (perhaps, now and then) by (a) knowing their game and showing great awareness and knowledge of it (b) coming back at them with something unexpected in terms of argument or rejoinder (c) speaking to them in such a way that the onlookers learn something about what is going on here.
All those things seem potentially valuable to me.
[ADDENDUM: I’m surprised at the level of defeatism I see in most of the comments here, as well as the level of generalization regarding all people on the Democrat side. I’ve responded at some length in several comments, but right now I just want to highlight that the people I’m advocating talking to don’t ordinarily spend a lot of time on political topics and they are far more amenable to reasonable arguments from the other side than either activists or people who are intensely political.
Doesn’t anyone know people like the ones I’m talking about? I certainly do.
It may not be how you choose to spend your time. But I’m suggesting one-on-one exchanges with a friend or relative who fits the description I’ve given of the sort of person amenable to listening. They exist, and their numbers are not infinitesimal.
A great deal of patience is required. But if every single conservative chose even just one or two such people to talk to, I think some worthwhile change might occur. If you give up before you start and don’t even try, however, it’s less likely to occur.]