The right is having a field day with Marie Harf’s latest pronouncement on the way to fight ISIS (see this, for example). Here’s Harf (speaking to Chris Matthews):
MATTHEWS: How do we stop this? I don’t see it…If i were ISIS, I wouldn’t be afraid right now. I can figure there is no existential threat to these people. They can keep finding places where they can hold executions and putting the camera work together, getting their props ready and killing people for show. And nothing we do right now seems to be directed at stopping this.
HARF: Well, I think there’s a few stages here. Right now what we’re doing is trying to take their leaders and their fighters off the battlefield in Iraq and Syria. That’s really where they flourish.
MATTHEWS: Are we killing enough of them?
HARF: We’re killing a lot of them and we’re going to keep killing more of them. So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians. They’re in this fight with us. But we cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the medium to longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups, whether it’s lack of opportunity for jobs, whether”¦
MATTHEWS: We’re not going to be able to stop that in our lifetime or fifty lifetimes. There’s always going to be poor people. There’s always going to be poor muslims, and as long as there are poor Muslims, the trumpet’s blowing and they’ll join. We can’t stop that, can we?
HARF: We can work with countries around the world to help improve their governance. We can help them build their economies so they can have job opportunities for these people”¦
So, what have we here? Boilerplate claptrap from Harf about root causes that doesn’t address the issue we’re facing today and the question Matthews was asking—are we killing enough ISIS fighters to put a dent into the atrocities they are committing right now? Harf’s answer, “We’re killing a lot of them and we’re going to keep killing more of them,” doesn’t define “a lot,” and it’s been pretty clear for quite some time that our efforts in that direction have been very, very small.
But the statement of Harf’s that has caused most of the fuss was this one: “…we cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of this war.” Harf does not even seem to understand what war is, and how wars are won. But this isn’t about Harf, really. It is about the administration for which she is a spokesperson, and its attitudes and policies towards this war. Her remarks reflect a larger attitude on their part, which is that war is not an activity in which you kill them before they can kill you (or others), it is a metaphor. And that idea ties into the administration’s overemphasis on the power of words.
This war is not a War on Poverty or a War on Drugs. Those were cases in which a war metaphor was used to indicate a vigorous effect. This war is—a war. Where you must kill a lot of people to win.
What Harf is doing here is typical of this administration. It involves glossing over the actual question (have we killed enough?) because the truth would reflect poorly on the administration, and going all meta and academic with the answer, an answer that isn’t even factually correct (we’ll get to that in a moment). But it is an answer that appeals to Obama’s base because it sounds less judgmental and harsh, and fits in with a common liberal solution for nearly everything, whether that solution actually has any chance at all of being delivered or not (in this case, as Matthews—a liberal, by the way—immediately points out, it does not).
In addition, even if Harf’s remedy, job opportunities, could somehow be achieved, it would not necessarily be an answer to the problem. Studies have consistently shown that terrorists do not tend to come disproportionately from the unemployed or the poor in the societies from which they emerge:
There should be little doubt that terrorists are drawn from society’s elites, not the dispossessed.
Yet some stereotypes die hard. In 1958 the political scientist Daniel Lerner argued, “The data obviate the conventional assumption that the extremists are simply the `have-nots.’ “
Die hard, indeed. Funny, too, how we don’t see many terrorists from non-Muslim third-world countries, even nations with worse economic situations than exist in those Muslim countries that supply the bulk of the terrorists in the world.
Actually, ISIS is so new that we have a poor idea who its members are, and from what societal layer they come. We know a bit more about the Westerners who join, such as Canadian Andre Poulin:
In the video message, which ISIS later used in a propaganda video, Poulin explained why he had joined the Sunni militant group. “Before I come here to Syria, I had money, I had a family, I had good friends. It wasn’t like I was some anarchist or somebody who just wants to destroy the world and kill everybody. I was a regular person,” Poulin, who later began calling himself Abu Muslim, said in the message. “We need the engineers, we need doctors, we need professionals. Every person can contribute something to the Islamic State.”
John Horgan, a psychologist who specializes in studying terrorists, says that ISIS seeks its recruits (not just its Western ones) online, particularly on social media, with very sophisticated approaches that tap into a desire for power and meaning in one’s life:
Most radicals don’t act on their beliefs, let alone become involved in terrorism. For the most part ISIS is working very hard on trying to not just provide opportunities for people to go out there, but to say that they’re being honest and upfront about their message. They’re offering an opportunity for people to feel powerful. They’re making disillusioned, disaffected radicals feel like they’re doing something truly meaningful with their lives.
There is no indication that poverty or unemployment have anything to do with this, for ISIS or other terrorist groups. For example, in a 2010 study of al Qaeda members, it was found that:
…[T]he al-Qaeda recruit does not fit easily into an economic profile. Some individuals studied had been unemployed for years and were living in poverty, while others came from privileged backgrounds and relative wealth. Those with the means financed their own travel, and those without means found sponsors willing to pick up the tab. As Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forums notes, radical Islamic ideologies, like other contemporary ideologically based movements, use the rhetoric of economic oppression to enhance their argument; however, their subjects are generally not drawn from the ranks of the desperately poor.
A young Saudi captured while trying to cross into Iraq revealed that he was promoted at work and in line for a substantial pay raise just before he joined a local jihadist group. His is not an isolated case. Among the subjects studied, economic motivations were the least-cited reason for joining a terrorist organization.
If it is true that “radical Islamic ideologies…use the rhetoric of economic oppression to enhance their argument,’ then Harf and the administration are certainly helping them along.
One things needs to be made clear: people do not join ISIS merely because they are Muslims; Islam is a necessary but not sufficient condition. Terrorist groups tend to emphasize a particular interpretation of the Koran, and (as yesterday’s article explains) ISIS has a very special apocalyptic vision about its role in the religion, and is acting on that vision. If it’s anything like al Qaeda (and my guess is that it is at least something like it), this study indicates its ranks would probably be drawn from those with a somewhat spotty and fragmentary schooling in the religion. “As a result, they could become zealous adherents to an unorthodox and distorted version of Islam.” That makes a certain amount of sense.
However, it’s all irrelevant at this point, except that it might assist in the design of counter-propaganda. But Harf’s long-term goals are not only unobtainable, they ignore the problem we face in the here and now: to counter and effectively destroy the enemy, which is not only our enemy, but the enemy of most Muslims, all Christians and Jews, and humankind itself.