Commenter “Ira” asks an interesting question—particularly for those among us who think that, if nominated, Donald Trump either would lose in the general or if elected would be a poor president (I happen to think both are true). Here’s what he wants to know:
I think we conservatives should be supporting a single candidate sooner rather than later to prevent Trump from gathering more momentum and to reduce the risk that good candidates will do harm to each other…
So, I ask who should that candidate be, taking into account conservatism and electibility?
That last sentence is the most important part of all. Conservatives would be likely to want someone who is conservative, and who will win—and the latter, always important, is particularly important this go-round because of the terrible inroads the left has made recently on almost all fronts, and because the almost-certain Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton is almost certain to continue in that direction.
“Cruz” is the very obvious answer if the criterion is “conservative principles and the ability to articulate them, as well as demonstrated adherence to them.” But what about that “electability” factor? In other words, can Cruz win?
A lot of people would answer as commenter Richard Saunders did:
Cruz is a brilliant man and a great lawyer ”” but does anybody here actually think he could get any votes outside the Republican base? (I mean outside of our little corner of the Republican base?) The guy is so anti-charismatic I think he’s an actual phenomenon. If Cruz is the top of the ticket, we will go down to defeat as badly as Goldwater did in 1968. I know ”” I was there.
That is my fear as well, which is one of the many reasons I am strongly considering the alternatives to Cruz—and of course that’s one of the things, writ large and multiplied by many people, that keeps so many candidates in the race and splits the “anyone-but-Trump” vote into fragments, weakening it.
Understanding that a lot of this is hunch and guesswork at the moment, and that things can change over time, I turn to polls for information. They may not be such great prognosticators, especially this early in the game, but they still are pretty much the only fact-based indications we have right now. In particular, I notice trends over time, and averages of many polls indicating those trends, and I also give greater weight to polls that report their data in more detail and have higher sample sizes.
And so far, over time, Rubio has been the candidate who has done best in head-to-head battles against Clinton. He has consistently been beating her for months in these polls (Trump has consistently done worst* of all the candidates against her, but let’s not worry too much about that for the purposes of this post, although sometimes I’ll use him for comparison).
So at the moment, if we want a Republican with the best chance of actually being elected, I’d say Rubio. But what about his conservatism; Gang of Eight and all that? Yeah, I know, I’ve heard it all a million times. But still, he is a stalwart conservative compared to Hillary Clinton, and has received high ratings on everything but immigration from just about every conservative group. See this and this, for example:
The American Conservative Union gave Rubio a 96 rating (out of 100) for 2014 and 98 across his Senate career. Heritage Action handed Rubio a 94 last year and 91 lifetime. The equivalent Club for Growth numbers are 92 and 93.
Maybe Rubio’s Gang of Eight membership is a dealbreaker for you. Maybe you just don’t like him for other reasons. For me, he’s acceptable, and I am drawn to him for—yes, I’ll dare to say it—his electability, which I value especially highly this year.
Here’s an unusually detailed national poll that was taken relatively recently (December 17-21; there’s been no national polling that I’ve found on this since December 23). I chose it because it reports on a lot more data than most. In it, you can see the sources of Rubio’s electoral chops. He does well with men vis a vis Hillary (better even than Trump, for example, who is usually considered to do so well with men). Hillary is ever-so-slighly ahead of Rubio with women, but only slightly. Rubio does well against her with non-whites (he gets 30%) and very well with whites (56%) (and both these figures are somewhat better than Trump’s against her with the same groups, interestingly enough). Rubio does better with voters who lean Democrat (14% against Hillary’s 11% lean Republican and Trump’s 11% lean Democrat). Rubio does slightly better with Democrats than Trump does (12% vs. 11%). The biggest difference is that Rubio pulls in a lot more Independents than Hillary (and than Trump), beating her with them 52/40 versus Trump’s breaking even with her. You may look down on Independents, but they are a very important bloc, and there is where Rubio shines. But he does well with all demographics, including Republicans (he draws the same percentage as Trump, 86%), which could put to rest the fears that the base would stay home if Rubio ran (a fear I retain somewhat, by the way).
Then there’s the supposedly less-electable Cruz. Over time, he’s certainly been doing worse than Rubio has against Clinton, but recently he’s been rising. Similarly to Rubio, Cruz does well with men, and a bit more surprisingly he does just as well with women. Where Cruz drops a bit compared to Rubio is with Democrats (7% to Rubio’s 12%) and lean Democrats (95 to Rubio’s 14%). However, Cruz is very strong indeed with Independents, which I must say surprised me: 52% to Hillary’s 40%, which is exactly the same as Rubio (versus Trump’s breaking even with her with Independents).
So, at least in this poll, Cruz looks almost as “electable” as Rubio. If that trend continues, it could matter—a lot.
Unfortunately, the poll doesn’t break down other candidates’ support that way; I think probably they had too little support for the numbers to have a small enough margin of error. I’d be especially interested in a Christie breakdown, because I’ve been more impressed with him as time goes on (and no, I don’t care about the Obama-hug-that-wasn’t-really-a-hug).
[ * NOTE: By the way, this NY Times article from yesterday entitled “Donald Trump’s Strongest Supporters: A Certain Kind of Democrat” caught my eye for obvious reasons. But when I read it, I found it very odd. It had very few numbers, and I couldn’t find any links to anything that contained them. So it was almost impossible to evaluate, and of course we’re dealing with the NY Times here. The group doing the polling was described as “a Democratic data firm.”
Here’s the gist of it:
[Trump’s] very best voters are self-identified Republicans who nonetheless are registered as Democrats. It’s a coalition that’s concentrated in the South, Appalachia and the industrial North, according to data provided to The Upshot by Civis Analytics, a Democratic data firm.
Mr. Trump’s huge advantage among these groups poses a challenge for his campaign, because it may not have the turnout operation necessary to mobilize irregular voters.
So Trump appeals to Republicans who are registered Democrats, and they are Republicans only by self-report? How many such people exist? I certainly don’t know any, which doesn’t mean much, since I mostly know liberal Democrats anyway. But why would a Republican register as a Democrat? An Independent, yes; but a Democrat? I don’t see these as the classic “Reagan Democrats,” either. Reagan Democrats were Democrats who crossed over for Reagan, not Republicans registered as Democrats. And apparently a lot of these Trump supporters may not vote, much less vote in the primaries.
In other polls, Trump does not do especially well with Democrats or those who lean Democrat, or with Independents, as I wrote in the post. I wish the Times had reported more detail about this survey of the Republican Democrats, whoever they are, so I could do a better evaluation of what’s going on here. All it really says is that the results are “estimates” based on 11,000 interviews since August (things have changed a lot since August) of those who are leaning Republican. The results only reflect these estimates of the support of each Republican candidate against other Republicans, not against Hillary in the general, so of course the non-Trump vote is split among all the other Republicans. What’s more, “The margin of uncertainty around the congressional district estimates is plus or minus 8.7 percentage points.” That’s rather large, to say the least.]