Non-citizens are voting
We do know it’s happening, but the real question is “in what numbers?”:
A small town Kansas mayor born in Mexico. A Filipino senior citizen living in Hawaii. Two Pakistani men residing in New Jersey. An Aussie in Louisiana. And a Chinese student studying at the University of Michigan. They all have one thing in common.
Each has been charged in the last year with illegally voting in U.S. federal elections as foreigners, part of a sudden wave of prosecutions led by the Trump Justice Department for a crime that used to be among the rarest in the federal court system.
The Trump Justice Department has secured about two dozen non-citizens voting arrests, prosecutions or convictions in the last few months alone, with about another 90 more cases under investigation, officials told Just the News. And all 50 states were sent notices this month that election officials can and will be prosecuted too if they allow non-citizens to vote.
Until now, prosecutors haven’t been especially interested in pursuing the possibility. And so it’s been easy to say it just doesn’t happen. But the DOJ has started to focus on the phenomenon, and these cases are the result. How many more are there?:
Trump administration officials like Dhillon believe the total number of foreigners who made it onto voter rolls will grow into the hundreds of thousands when all the reviews of state voter rolls are completed.
Many blue and even some red states are fighting in court to block the DOJ from examining their voter rolls. The dozen or so states that have cooperated in some form have identified 20,000 to 30,000 non-citizens on their rolls, officials said. A much larger bloc of non-citizens is expected to be found in non-cooperating states such as New York, New Jersey, Illinois and California, the officials said.
Being on the rolls isn’t the same thing as actually voting, of course. But the two can certainly be connected, especially in states that send out ballots by mail without voters having requested them.
This is part of the reason Americans feel increased distrust of the validity of US elections. Here’s a poll:
In a national survey from the Center for Transparent and Trusted Elections (CTTE) at the University of California San Diego, produced in collaboration with the university’s Yankelovich Center for Social Science Research, 60% of respondents said they are confident votes will be counted accurately nationwide in the 2026 midterms. Just after the 2024 presidential election, that figure stood at 77%, a 17-point drop.
The survey of 11,406 eligible voters, conducted Dec. 19, 2025 through Jan. 12, 2026, shows trust declining by 17 percentage points among Republicans, 13 points among Democrats and 16 points among independents. The decline spans party lines, though the sources of skepticism vary.
Of course they vary, and they vary in the way you might expect:
Only 27% of Democrats, 21% of independents and 35% of Republicans say they trust that district lines are drawn in a way that fairly reflects what voters want. …
Republicans expressed higher levels of distrust about mail ballots and whether noncitizens will be prevented from casting ballots, while Democrats’ distrust focused on redistricting efforts.
Not good.
That “n” word pops up again – nconceivable, “I” having no say in the matter.
I being a citizen of the United States of America. The Senate is toots fine with it.
“in what numbers?”
Yes, at least ball park numbers are crucial.
A different topic but related to this, is the last few decades of political and media discussion of illegal immigration. Going back to the Clinton White House era, the Dems and their media folks came up with an absurdly precise number for how many illegals currently existed in the US.
IIRC, the number was 11.X million. Yes, three digits, though I’m not sure what X was now. Then as people were flooding across the border for perhaps another decade, this precise number never changed. Uh huh, I understand.
Remember the classic film The Manchurian Candidate (1962)? The McCarthyite moron blowhard senator is spouting off about all the communists in congress. He discusses this with his mastermind wife complaining that he needs to quantify this in order to be believable. A made-up number is concocted.
This number range that neo cites is quite important, in spite of the fact that it does not prove any illegal voting. 20K to 30K illegals on the roles, per state.
I’ve been pulling jury duty appearances for nearly 40 years in central coast CA. Maybe 20, with 12 – 14 voir dire selections, and 3 trials. Almost all were in predominantly Hispanic Salinas. In early years, the documentation sent out said that all the names called came from the voter roles. Now, they’ve wised up and say that there are “other sources” for names. Yeah, sure.
At least 25% of the people in voir dire use the excuse “No habla ingles” and get off instantly. That proves nothing, but is highly suspicious.
The last jury I served on had an elderly German lady serving on it. Her english was perfect and she had been living in CA for a very long time. I overheard her state that she is not a US citizen. Do you vote in elections? she was asked. Oh sure, all the time, she replied. Why not?
Is there a country in Latin America which has dirtier elections than we do?
Tommy Jay: “Ball park numbers are crucial”.
The only number in my ballpark is zero. I know you probably feel the same way TJ.
“the real question is “in what numbers?” Not really. That is a red herring argument.The question is simply is it happening. If so, we have a problem.
Per the survey: “60% of respondents said they are confident votes will be counted accurately nationwide in the 2026 midterms.” That again is not the issue, and for the most part, was not the issue in 2020. In virtually all elections the “votes” are counted accurately and that is why mail-in ballots (especially those not requested) and late received ballots are such a problem.
When a system is designed to obscure the validity of the ballots, the accuracy of the count does not matter. Every audit of the count will come back that the count was accurate or had “insignificant” errors.
As a retired accountant and fraud investigator for a Big 4 accounting firm, the accounting numbers, or counts, were almost always accurate, but that was not the question that needed answer – it was always is the data valid. And valid data requires controls and correct testing of the controls at a minimum. But this is exactly what we fail to do with US elections today with a dumb electorate that is mainly concerned with ease, if they even vote at all. And ease without controls facilitates non US Citizens voting, ballot harvesting, and loss of the ability to prove each vote is valid, but hey, the count will still be accurate.
It should be mind boggling to all Americans that we don’t have controls and safeguards over our election system, but, unfortunately it is not because to many want a specific outcome more than they want the correct outcome.
I expect Republicans to take immediate bold, swift, and effective action to put an end to the problem of non-citizen voting.
Rfwp:
I’ve written many posts on the subject of voting fraud. The summary version is that any time a significant number of people don’t trust the system, that’s a big problem in itself; plus that there is almost no way to prove fraud once it has happened so it MUST be prevented. That means that – among other things – recounts will not help when votes are fraudulent in the first place. And there are many different ways to cast fraudulent votes.
In the case of non-citizens voting, even a single case is bad and should be prosecuted.
But when I discussed how much it was happening, I was talking about whether any elections – especially national ones – had the results changed because of the existence of non-citizen votes.
Election fraud, vote fraud, voter fraud, census fraud…
“It would be hard for any Democrat in any state to win any election,” Slotkin said of the SAVE America Act.”
In California, if there is a close contest between a Republican and a Democrat, the “late” mail-in ballots ALWAYS put the Democrat over the top.
California is also a hotbed of No Kings rallies. In the better news department Gavin Newsom will be out of state for the next 6 months.
Non-citizens voting is happening and is a problem that is getting worse in blue states for obvious reasons. But probably the biggest problems with voter rolls are invalid addresses and inadequate signature verification on mail-in ballots. The 2020 election was decided by about 43,000 votes in Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona. The number of invalid ballots in these states far exceeds the margin of victory in each state.
There is a lot of work being done by volunteers across many states to clean up the voter rolls (my wife is one such volunteer). But we live in West Virginia where the county clerks responsible for maintaining the voter rolls are trying their best to keep them up to date. Unfortunately this is not the case in California and other blue states. If the voter rolls were properly updated, photo ID was required to vote, and adequate signature verification was required in all states, Democrats would indeed have a very hard time winning elections which Elissa Slotkin admits.
Trump and Peaher Johnson are about make a play to pss the SAVE America Act to strengthen vote security. (It may satisfy this distrustful non voter — since 2016.)
During Fox News shows Watters or Laura Ingram this evening, the word was discloed that Trump is doing a major address Thursday evening from the White House on election security. (I was working with the TV on, not really paying attention except occasionally.)
THIS speech may be the best reveal since Tulsi Gabbard and Team Patrick Byrne said something Big is coming. Or else what follows from a Trump cri d’cour (SP? Nod to huxley.)
Of course, what we really want is prosecutions and perp walks of the villains! Desperately. But if only the SAVE America Act gets passed, this could be enough, despite that disappointment.
Reply to Chases Eagles. According to the great research by Tim Groseclose, PhD degreed political economist (Stanford Business School, posted to UCLA, now GMU), media LEFT bias gives the CommieKKKrats an 8-10% advantage in national elections.
He built his case by finding a clear linear Left-Right variable — DC think tank citations — in Congressional speeches and media political coverage.
Groseclose noticed how the slow nationwide roll out of the first non-left or non-far left news outlet, FNC on cable, during the 1990s, and the change wreaked upon biannual Congressional election outcomes during the 1990s. That’s what he and his research teams documented.
Recall that until the Gingrich Republican Revolution, media kept the enemy CommieKKKrats in the House for some 45 uninterrupted years!
And this change began to keep party hold on House elections repeatedly variable ever since. THIS is where American politics first underwent a shift, albeit much less than the lurch that came with the Obama years, which combined with collective White guilt induction, re-started the placid race hustling war.
Has anybody read Tim Groseclose’ popular paperback book on his findings, “No Left Turns”? It oughta be required among info-vores, if not everyone.
CORRECTION ABOVE
NOT “Peaher Johnson” but House “Speaker Johnson.”
On posts like these I really miss our former commenter “I am Spartacus.”
Yes, I also miss Spartacus. As I recall he was from Detroit and gave regular updates on irregularities in Wayne County elections. If you are out there Spartacus, we would like an update.
Hi TJ.
Very early this morning you wrote that we should all read Tim Groseclose’s popular paperback book on his findings, “No Left Turns”.
Sadly, alI I can find is a 2012 book he wrote titled “Left Turns”.
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Do you have a way to find the book you meant?
I assumed it was an update on the topic, by Groseclose.