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Israel continues to pound Iran — 24 Comments

1. Soon, there will be an Exodus by high level admin people and military from Iran. That is, those that are left.

2. This morning the IAF is claiming air superiority over Tehran. To me, that indicates the beginning of the end. If that superiority starts to extend to a wider region, then all those mobile missile launchers will be eliminated and that last bit of what Iran has to go after Israel will be gone. By Friday, we will see what happens.

   Also interesting that the Nimitz is heading for the Gulf.

3. I wonder if Khamenei has any regrets about the October 7th attacks now. Must’ve seemed like a great idea at the time.

4. This seems beyond superiority and into supremacy.
   Wiki
   Air supremacy is the highest level, where a side holds complete control of the skies. It is defined by NATO and the United States Department of Defense as the “degree of air superiority wherein the opposing air force is incapable of effective interference”.

5. They have been crying ” Death to America ” for decades. Trump needs to send in the heavy bombers – which Israel doesn’t have – with bunker busters and finish off those nuke sites – and THEN make a deal !

6. It does occur to me that many on the Left actually share the sentiment of “Death to America”….

7. No rest for the wicked (Iranian regime).

   And all of BHO’s best laid plans go agley.

8. Youve been canceled

   https://x.com/bnonews/status/1934630026353504715?s=46&t=pOghkxSbQl2pg4CLby5nCA

   Other news
   https://x.com/OptimisticCon/status/1934412165202784347

9. The problem is, it anin over till it’s over.

   China is reportedly now resupplying its Iranian pals…

   “This powerful nation jumps in Iran Israel war! Sends planes to Tehran, direct challenge to US, Israel due to…
   “The plane had turned off its transponder to avoid tracking.”—
   https://www.india.com/news/world/this-powerful-nation-jumps-in-iran-israel-war-sends-planes-to-tehran-direct-challenge-to-us-israel-due-to-china-donald-trump-america-beijing-operation-rising-lion-operation-true-promise-3-7884661/amp/

   + Bonus (for naval, and other, history buffs)…

   “Captain James Cook’s lost ship Endeavour discovered after 250 years”—
   https://nypost.com/2025/06/16/science/captain-james-cooks-lost-ship-endeavour-found-after-250-years/

10. Jon Baker’s comments are right on the mark. Thanks, Jon.

11. Barry:

    Well, China does like that Russian and Iranian oil.

12. Well then crater the runways and if at all possible kill the planes in the air or on the ground. Fly in a war zone with transponders off means no complaints with when if it happens.

13. @ Miguel – thanks for Dyer’s tweet; I will be looking for her full analysis as soon as she gets one up. Always the best for background and maps IMO.

    In the meantime, here is her most recent post from 6/11, but probably will have an applicable framework for Israel Demolishes Iran At Last.
    https://theoptimisticconservative.wordpress.com/2025/06/11/establishment-for-a-better-future-the-historic-need-of-our-time/

    This essay, while a long one, is considerably shorter than it could be, if I included a lot of quoted citations and deeper discussion of the technical aspects of some of the targeting sequences alluded to (in Iran and Yemen, and with the recent Ukrainian attack on Russia’s high-value strategic aircraft).

    It takes forever to put those articles together, and my priority is to convey clearly a top-level point about the “meta-trend” of our thinking on matters like game-changing geopolitical developments, negotiations, and warfare and the uses of power in today’s environment.

    I think the meta-trend will be seen more distinctly and usefully if the discussion focuses on that, and doesn’t try to make too many ancillary points. I don’t even want to talk about the ancillary points; I want to get us ahead of the action, inside the OODA loop, by pointing out how appreciating the meta-trend makes us smarter in the face of President Trump’s negotiating style, rather than being held back by overlaying our incorrect assumptions on his actions.

    At the outset, let me clarify that you don’t need to agree with Trump’s goals to think usefully about his way of framing negotiations. It helps if you can perceive why his goals make sense to him, and quite a few people disagree so much that they just can’t see it. Many of them assume Trump is a cynical, faithless, sold-out liar because he doesn’t have their premises, and hence their goals. The mish-mash you come up with trying to fit all that together has no utility; it just leads observers to a depressed, pessimistic view that is never requited by the instant failures predicted, but nevertheless keeps many people in a relentlessly sour mood.

    Perhaps some might be willing to consider an alternative view, and ponder a reason why the view is interestingly suited to the time we find ourselves in.

    So, without delay, let us investigate.

    There are two meta-points to be addressed in considering the meta-trend. Consideration of the points causes the trend to emerge most clearly, so I’m going to treat the points first.
    …
    As we perceive threats, our minds go to “removing” them or being ready to counter them. And yet, as recent examples illustrate, that can be extremely difficult or even impossible to do, if we keep doing it as a tail-chase.

    Trump’s deal-making mode can usefully be seen as abandoning the tail-chase posture and going directly to the operational profile of deciding what we want, as the priority, and navigating towards it, instead of navigating in our leaky status quo boat away from what an adversary wants.

    Doing it Trump’s way does tend to leave many observers confused. Trump’s practice envisions end-states that supersede current antipathies, and that’s understandably hard on people’s feelings, and principled moral concerns. Really understandably: it’s a hard thing, to ask Ukraine to prefer moving ahead after agonizing losses, with less emphasis on punishing Russia and trying to scrabble some of it back.

    That being said, it’s worth pondering that you can’t possibly get a world with more goodwill in it if you won’t allow thinking about one, and viewing it as a prospect to be defined and sought. That would include everything from getting Kim Jong-Un to comply with a missile-limiting agreement, to getting Russia and Ukraine to the negotiating table, and removing a Hamas-ruled Gaza from the game-board as a perpetual sniper’s perch and hell-hole. The only way these better futures can ever see fruition is if you go ahead and think the unthinkable.

    Goodwill, like liberty and unmolested prosperity, never just happens. Nor can it. Human life just doesn’t work that way.

    Those things have to be established. Should we spend our limited time establishing what we do want? Or should we spend it preserving all our current grievances in well-tended and fully justified shrines, while trying to fend off what we don’t want?

    The closer what we don’t want comes and settles in nearby, the more we are compelled to think in these terms. How can we best prioritize our efforts, not just to avert more of what we don’t want, but to keep the fight against what we don’t want from becoming all-consuming, and ultimately changing our status quo into something we didn’t plan, and no longer recognize?

    Prioritizing the establishment of what we do want means, at a minimum, that we are committed to the effort required to advance it even when the inevitable opposition arises. That’s just one of the many points that can be made about establishing, rather than maneuvering through or around what “just happens,” and eventually giving up from the likely waste of our efforts.

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15. My DIL’s family live in Tehran. There is no gasoline, but they were able to get out of Tehran.

    Other reports that the top regime people are flying to Moscow.

16. Cornhead – flying, or fleeing?

17. AesopFan:

    The Optimistic Conservative article is some of the most bloated writing I’ve seen in a while. I asked Chat to convert it to an executive summary:
    __________________________

    * The author argues that America must stop reacting defensively to threats and instead proactively establish the conditions for a better future.

    * Drawing parallels to Trump’s deal-making, the essay suggests that lasting peace and security come not from marginal adjustments, but from reshaping incentives and relations to achieve transformative outcomes.

    * Liberty, goodwill, and safety don’t arise on their own — they must be actively built and defended, even against resistance.

    * Examples like Ukraine’s drone strike on Russia, the Houthi missile threat, and rising antisemitism show that relying on the status quo leaves us vulnerable. We need strategies focused on what we want, not just avoiding what we fear.

    * The author sees Trump’s vision-driven, incentive-based approach as a model for building a safer, freer, and more prosperous future.
    __________________________

    Not much there there.

18. Hope they keep pounding Iran like the 2 bit whore she is.

19. I have no ill will towards the Persian people. It’s a shame their people were overrun by Islam in centuries past.

20. Telegraph report: Disagreement between Trump and other leaders of the G7 summit in Canada after the US president refused to sign a joint statement of the summit on the issue of the war between Israel and Iran. US officials said that Trump refused to sign the text of the statement that calls for the protection of civilian lives on both sides and close supervision of Iran’s nuclear facilities. The officials said that the text was unacceptable to Trump, who demands that Iran not be able to enrich uranium at all.

    https://x.com/JewishWarrior13/status/1934722398747562107

    Polite applause from here.

21. Why does iran need to enrich uranium not for power production? Why has the iaea allowed refining at all

22. sdferr quotes report on G7 Summit in Canada:

    Disagreement between Trump and other leaders of the G7 summit in Canada after the US president refused to sign a joint statement of the summit on the issue of the war between Israel and Iran. US officials said that Trump refused to sign the text of the statement that calls for the protection of civilian lives on both sides and close supervision of Iran’s nuclear facilities.

    1. Does that mean that nuclear scientists, ostensibly “civilians,” are considered off-limits? Israel targets government officials, though in the process, some Iranians who are not targeted get unintentionally killed. Iran intentionally targets any Israeli. IIRC, some West Bank Palestinians got killed by an Iranian missile.

    2.As if “close supervision of Iran’s nuclear facilities” has worked so far. 🙂

    IOW, the G7 resolution is meaningless. Kudos to Trump for not signing.

23. Trump returning early from G7 and calling a National Security Council meeting after issuing a warning for complete evacuation of Tehran.

24. I suspect that thecTulsi Gabbard wing verses some of the more hawkish Trump administration wing are likely not getting along about right now.

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