Old wall, new wall
Apparently the stretch of wall near San Diego that’s been built to new specifications was an area the caravaners did not successfully scale:
When it’s finished, the new section of border wall near San Diego will replace about 14 miles of an 8- to 10-foot-high scrap metal wall with an 18- to 30-foot bollard-style wall topped off with an “anti-climbing plate,” CBP announced earlier this year.
I assume there’s a way to climb or tunnel under any wall. But that’s no reason not to make it more difficult to do.
Meanwhile, protestors send the message “Let them all in.” That’s part of the open-borders movement—recall that the caravan was funded and promoted by a leftist group whose name translates as People Without Borders.
And a showdown in Congress is on the horizon:
“We need Democrat votes to have a wall,” the president stated, according to the WaPo. “Now, if we don’t get it, will I get it done another way? I might get it done another way. There are other potential ways that I can do it. You saw what we did with the military, just coming in with the barbed wire and the fencing, and various other things.”
What will the Democrats do? For that matter, what will the Republicans do?
Ha, silly question NEO! They will do the thing they think benefits them most in their quest for political advantage and power.
“If they want to go and harass the president and the administration, I think that would [be] the best thing that could happen to me because I’m a counter puncher and I will hit them so hard, they’ve never been hit like that,” he said. “You know what? I think that will help my campaign. That will be the beginning of my campaign as president.”
The San Diego Wall was very effective when built. The newer designs is stronger and will be more effective against these military age men who are more aggressive than the usual border jumper in San Diego was 10 years ago.
The political fight over the wall began in 2006 after a bill was passed to build it and the Dims ignored the law after they took Congress that year.
I assume there’s a way to climb or tunnel under any wall. But that’s no reason not to make it more difficult to do.
Of course it is! If the wall’s not 100% perfect it might as well not be there. That’s why no one locks their doors, they know that master criminals will always be able to break in.
Good one Frederick.
Remember Obama from last week. Those caravan people are thousands of miles away from us. They’re no threat!
Remember Obama from many years ago. There’s no reason have: 1) the Keystone pipeline, 2) E&P in Alaska, 3) leasing of fed. lands for production, 4) new drilling in the gulf; because it will take a decade or two for any of that stuff to come online! Why bother!
The world is now awash in new U.S. nat. gas and oil production. Today’s oil price has a $50 handle.
Not PC, but bullets are very effective and relatively cheap. Mow down the next 10, 100, or 1,000 attempting to enter illegally and the message is sent loud and clear. Enter illegally and die says it all. Same goes for Europe and the water born invasion. Sink a few boats and the invasion ends. If the West does not defend its values it ceases to be a civilization. It is that simple, stupid.
As Napoleon famously said, “Nothing is more effective to disperse a rioting mob as a whiff of shrapnel”. He did it in Paris against Royalist uprising looking for toppling Directory.
Politics is a tough game. Sometimes to save lives one need to be merciless. One migrant boat machine-gunned by a border patrol with pictures splashed over first pages of all newspapers would shut down this human traffic scum completely and will save thousands from drowning in the sea.
“…wall…”
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/11/27/new-york-times-columnist-on-trump-supporters-maybe-theyre-just-bad-people/
I note that he current far Left Pope Francis is bleating about how “migrant rights” trump national rights, including, it appears, the rights of the citizens of the nations that they want to illegally force their way into, or some such drivel, and that the apparently inviolable rights of these immigrants–apparently superior to and overriding anyone else’s rights– have to be protected at every stage of their journey.
To quote him:
“The principle of the centrality of the human person … obliges us to always prioritize personal safety over national security….” and
“Solidarity must be concretely expressed at every stage of the migratory experience – from departure through journey to arrival and return,” he said in a message ahead of the Roman Catholic Church’s World Day of Migrants and Refugees.
See https://www.reuters.com/article/us-migrants-pope-idUSKCN1B11RX
Just heard a report on Fox Business – there are health issues which need to be considered with the group. There are confirmed cases of TB, chicken pox, and HIV/AIDS.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/caravan-migrants-suffer-from-respiratory-infections-tuberculosis-chickenpox-other-health-issues-tijuana-government-says
I note that he current far Left Pope Francis is bleating about how “migrant rights” trump national rights,
I’d still like too know what happened with Pope Benedict.
National Security Emergency………
Army Corp of Engineers
RE: “I assume there’s a way to climb or tunnel under any wall. But that’s no reason not to make it more difficult to do.”
Indeed. It’s just a first step, but we are unlikely to get even that. The Ruling Class wants open borders, and that’s what they’re going to get. That’s why they’re called a “Ruling Class”.
Personally, I’d like to build two fences with a mile or two in between. I’d fill the space between with a mine field or nuclear waste. The message is: “This wall is for your protection. You can go over or under it, but it’s a bad idea.”
Frederick: You are correct: locks on doors are just a first step. If I’m not home, the alarm should deter the bad guy. If the alarm doesn’t go off, it means that my wife or I are home. Expect casualties.
Snow on Pine: Yes, Pope Francis is big on protecting migrants, while he lives in a private city-state surrounded by walls and armed guards, and his minions sexually abuse children and cover it up.
“…bleating…”
Several observations from a former Canadian journalist who’s been around the block, and then some…:
https://www.davidwarrenonline.com/
I prefer this column of Warren’s which I copied to save it from the memory hole.
Yes: a lot of people have entertained the idea, that Mikhail Gorbachev was to the late great Soviet Union, what Barack Obama is to the surviving United States — the leader who reforms so many things so quickly that his country suddenly disappears.
Interesting comparison.
Security systems are realized in layers, and evolve as their environments are characterized.
There have been all sorts of stories about the dozens and dozens tunnels that have been dug in an effort to defeat border walls–for example, terrorist tunnels along borders with Israel, and narco-trafficker tunnels along the U.S. southern border.
In the U.S. the usual MO is apparently to find a building on the Mexican side that is very close to the border, to buy a building on the U.S. side that is also very close to the border and, then, to dig a tunnel under the border itself that connects these two locations.
From the pictures I’ve seen, some of these smuggler’s tunnels–in some cases many hundreds of feet long–can be quite elaborate–with air handling equipment, lighting, and even small gauge tracks on their floors, so that–in addition to people using these tunnels–heavily laden carts full of drugs, weapons, and explosives, or whatever can be pushed from one location to the other.
The thing is, I thought that between ground penetrating radar, the capabilities and high resolution of satellite imagery, and electronic sensors for sound and vibration, it ought to be easy to detect such tunnels–especially when they were under construction–and to shut them down.
It would also seem logical for authorities to monitor the sale, use, and modification of buildings along both sides of the border.
Apparently detecting such tunnels is not that easy because, in the stories I have seen about such tunnels, most of them have been described as being completely built and, apparently, to have been in operation for some time before they were “discovered.”
On the other hand, perhaps rather than a lack of technology, it might be a lack of will, with detecting such tunnels given lower priority that other things.
Snow on Pine on November 29, 2018 at 9:06 am at 9:06 am said:
To reply to the Pope: without national security, there is no such thing as personal safety.
In re the tunnels: the Israelis have no lack of will, but only recently have gotten the hang of finding the tunnels before they are put into action.
However, no matter how willing our Border Patrol is to find tunnels, there has to be back-up and support from other agencies in the government.
And finally: it is not impossible that the people tasked with finding tunnels have been paid off by the tunnelers.