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Tillerson on Trump

The New Neo Posted on October 4, 2017 by neoOctober 4, 2017

I haven’t reported on the rumors about Tillerson dissing Trump because, quite frankly, at this point I automatically tune such news out as gossip coupled with propaganda until it’s authenticated.

That means I have about fifty major “news” articles a day to ignore, which makes my task a little easier.

I’m not even sure whether Tillerson’s denials issued today are true, either. What I do know is that every single day the press is loaded with reports that this person or that person in Trump’s employ thinks Trump is a vile person and wants to quit, and the vast majority of these reports seem to fizzle out.

So, if you’d like me to cover that sort of thing more heavily, I’m sorry but I’m probably not going to. I’m tired of it and consider it mostly meaningless noise, although I am pretty sure that my liberal friends credit it with being true. That said, I haven’t discussed any of it with any of them. I think they’re pretty tired of this stuff, too.

Posted in Press, Trump | 16 Replies

Mass-murdering man of mystery (Part I): why did Paddock target the country music concert?

The New Neo Posted on October 4, 2017 by neoOctober 4, 2017

First let me address the general topic of the conspiracy theories that have been flying around ever since the Las Vegas killings.

I think that in a way the talk is understandable. After all, nature abhors a vacuum, and at the moment Paddock’s motives are virtually unknown. So perhaps one of these conspiracy theories will even turn out to be true. At this point we have so little evidence of Paddock’s motives that we cannot rule such theories out, although I strongly suspect they will remain in the fantasy realm.

But lack of evidence, or even the existence of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, does not stop conspiracy buffs who look for it—and think they’ve found it—nearly everywhere. With Paddock, there probably will always be big holes in our knowledge. In fact, I have come to conceptualize Stephen Paddock as the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 of mass murderers. That’s the flight whose demise was recently, three years after the plane went down, declared by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau report to have been “almost inconceivable” in its mystery.

Although so far Paddock’s motivation has been almost equally mysterious, it is not inconceivable. In fact, lots of people are guessing at the motive or motives (as I did yesterday and will continue to do today).

For example, a great many people have wondered why Paddock might have chosen the country music festival for his carnage. Generally, people seem to believe there must have been some ideological reason. And his actions definitely seem to have been long-planned, and therefore premeditated. But I believe that although Paddock planned his attack quite meticulously, the details of exactly which venue he would end up attacking were decided somewhat late in the game. I believe that the festival was a target of both opportunity and planning—planning for its general outlines, opportunity for the specific event.

In other words, I believe that Paddock’s basic motive was to kill a lot of people and then kill himself (something I wrote about yesterday). It almost didn’t matter to him who those people would be, as long as there were a lot of them. I believe he had decided that a good way to maximize his kill number would be to use high-powered and speedy firearms, have lots of ammunition handy, and to fire from a difficult-to-detect and protected perch up high into a very dense crowd.

Paddock frequently stayed in Vegas hotels. He was well-known there and the casinos liked his business; among other things (according to his brother) he was a very lavish tipper. Therefore he would have known a lot about the Mandalay and its rooms and the view from different rooms both in that hotel and others. He would also have known when and where open-air concerts were scheduled, and the best vantage points from which to kill people at the venues.

I believe Paddock decided a while ago—most likely a few months ago, when he reportedly bought some extra weapons and added them to some he already had—to become a mass murderer. But I believe it was only recently that he decided that his victims would be the people attending this particular concert. He booked the room accordingly, which would have been no problem given his relationship with the hotel. The festival concert had to have been advertised in advance, and it represented the perfect opportunity for him.

This became my theory quite soon after first hearing some of the details, and I’ve seen nothing so far to change my mind. Of course, my mind could change if some evidence against this theory were to be revealed, but so far it has not. In fact, a few moments ago I read something that backed the theory up (if the report is true, of course), at least to my way of thinking:

Police are investigating the possibility that Las Vegas mass murderer Stephen Paddock may have originally targeted another music festival in the city.

Paddock had apparently attempted to book rooms at the Ogden, a luxury condo tower that overlooked the Life is Beautiful open-air festival, which ran across 15 Las Vegas blocks from September 22-24.

He requested specific suites at the Ogden and another unidentified hotel, but moved on when he discovered they were booked, an inside source told CBS.

That raises the grim possibility that he’d intended to turn either location into sniper nests, like the one he built in the Mandalay Bay hotel on Sunday, prior to his horrific killing spree.

This doesn’t surprise me in the least. I believe that any festival, or any gathering, that was to take place under the high windows of any hotel with good sightlines would have suited Paddock’s needs.

As for why Paddock wanted to become a mass murderer in the first place, I believe that (unless an autopsy locates some organic cause such as a brain tumor in an area that deals with aggression and/or judgment) he was a psychopath like his father before him, and ultimately became an even more violent one. His father was a psychopath of the con man variety; he’s usually been described as a bank robber but that was just one of his many modi operandi (I may write more about the father in another post). Not all psychopaths are violent by any means, and I think Paddock was a relatively law-abiding one—until he wasn’t. As commenter “FunkyPhD” wrote:

I suspect that the more we learn about Paddock, the more we’ll find out that he was just a sociopathic, black-hearted nihilist, who wanted his suicide to be spectacular. He served no ideology, was checked by no transcendental beliefs, and had no children or parents [NOTE added: except that Paddock had an elderly mother and some brothers and their kids] or friends or family to shame. He was tired of life, which was easy for him, and”“like Oswald”“bitter that the world failed to exalt him for his genius, and was therefore determined to punish his fellow human creatures for their indifference. He wasn’t in pain, or in despair, or even lashing out for some unforgivable injury or slight. As Dostoyevski so brilliantly showed, when there is no meaning or purpose or duty or responsibility, destruction of the human community is not only permissible, it is also the ultimate act of freedom.

I concur; or at least that’s my working theory at present.

Stephen Paddock would have been about 14 years old when Charles Whitman famously climbed that tower at the U. of Texas, and he would have been ten when Oswald blew the top of JFK’s head off in Dallas from his sniper’s nest above. These are very formative years and the incidents probably made a deep impression on Paddock (as they did on all of us at the time). He probably realized that a sniper position could keep him relatively safe and protected for a fairly long time and maximize his opportunity to kill. Although Paddock doesn’t seem to have possessed any special marksman skills, his choice of a large and densely packed target, coupled with his protected position, would be his way to achieve success in what I imagine was his desire to be the single shooter who killed the largest number number of people in a mass murder in the US.

As for the question of why Paddock had so very many firearms and so very much ammunition in the room, I believe it was because he thought he might last there a long, long time and hoped to kill a lot more people than he did. Apparently it was only 9-11 minutes before a police officer came to the door and Paddock killed himself, which I believe was much faster than he had originally predicted. He also may have had so many weapons because he felt he needed backup in case some of the weapons jammed or heated up or otherwise malfunctioned.

There are ordinarily three goals in murders such as this. The first is the one we all notice: the desire to kill large numbers of people. Sometimes the motive and targets are specific (revenge, money, politics). Sometimes—as I believe is the case with Paddock—they are not.

But there are ordinarily two additional motives. The first is to commit suicide, because in these cases the perpetrator almost certainly knows it’s unlikely he’ll escape alive and he is prepared to shoot himself before the authorities get to him. He does not want to be taken alive. And the other is to hurt one’s family—the other survivors who have to deal with the reaction of press and public, and try to pick up the shattered pieces of their lives.

[Part II will come soon, and will deal with the motives of Charles Whitman, the Texas Tower mass murderer.]

Posted in Evil, Violence | 43 Replies

The heroes…

The New Neo Posted on October 3, 2017 by neoOctober 3, 2017

…of Las Vegas.

Resourceful, courageous, altruistic.

Posted in Disaster | 9 Replies

Another changer with a story

The New Neo Posted on October 3, 2017 by neoOctober 3, 2017

“Red Pill Black” tells her story of left-to-right political change. It’s a long video, but the gist of her story comes at the beginning:

I wrote “left-to-right political change,” but Candace Owens (that’s her real name) was never really on the left to begin with. She describes herself as having been a liberal but not really all that interested in politics, and after she had her political conversion (which might more aptly be described as a political awakening, I suppose, in terms of intensity of interest in the subject) she realized she had always been somewhat conservative in her basic orientation towards things (beginning at around 13:10):

You know, when I think back on it, I just—I don’t even know that I ever really was a liberal. I didn’t really care about politics. I was just a girl who was trying to pay back my student loans. I wasn’t really involved in politics. I didn’t really know what being a liberal meant, or being conservative meant. I think at the end of the day I was always a conservative; I’m pretty rational, I’m very fact-based in terms of I will always value economics of like, social issues and that sort of thing because I understand that that should take a back seat, obviously. I mean, you don’t want to become a third-world country…I think I was always a conservative, or more conservative, in that regard. I started really deeply considering politics and my positions on everything…

Unlike Owens, I didn’t have something dramatic happen to me personally that caused an almost instantaneous change. But much of her story resonates with mine nevertheless, particularly the change from relatively apolitical to the political, and the realization that one’s basic orientation was always at least somewhat conservative even in the past, despite having voted liberal.

In my case, after my political change I looked back on earlier incidents in my life where I had spoken up for things that were unpopular in terms of the people around me (many of these incidents happened while in college during the 60s or especially grad school during the 90s). At the time these things had occurred I had no conceptual framework in which to place them; it had just seemed that I was somewhat randomly thinking differently than my friends and acquaintances and professors. I didn’t even realize the issues involved were all that political (some, for example, were ethical issues connected with therapist/client interactions). But later on, I became aware that the thread that united my objections was having a more conservative general philosophy than that of the others.

Posted in Leaving the circle: political apostasy, Me, myself, and I, Political changers | 26 Replies

Thomas Sowell speaks

The New Neo Posted on October 3, 2017 by neoOctober 3, 2017

Here’s an interview with William F. Buckley from 40 years ago, mostly about statistics and discrimination. Well worth watching, as is most of Sowell:

Posted in Uncategorized | 10 Replies

Who was Stephen Paddock?

The New Neo Posted on October 3, 2017 by neoJuly 12, 2022

And why should we care? After all, there’s a very good argument to make for not giving shooters such as Paddock the attention they probably craved in life.

But there’s also a desire to make sense out of something so vile, something that still lacks any motive that we can see. Some mass killers who’ve previously led obscure lives leave manifestos because they want us to know them at the end. Paddock doesn’t seem to have done that, although I assume his computer might reveal more than we know now (which is next to nothing). So far there is no “sense” to be made. But more understanding of his life trajectory and motives could point to something that might help prevent or alert us to the next one.

Because there is very likely to be a “next one.” Unfortunately, the impulse to kill and the ability to kill is part of humankind, and that won’t change. The weaponry might, and among the many present-day choices are vehicles and/or explosives and/or firearms and/or knives and probably others I haven’t thought of. And some that haven’t been invented yet.

We don’t know much about Paddock at this point (most of the information I rely on in this post is at that link), so anything I’m about to write here is extremely speculative. But these are my hunches, guesses, theories, for what they’re worth.

Paddock was a guy who kept a very low profile. But there are two unusual things about his life, and they tie in with each other (or might tie in with each other). The first is that his father was a notorious criminal, a bank robber and prison escapee who lived away from the family under a different name for many years. The second is that Stephen Paddock was a gambler. If he had a home—and he apparently had several in various Sunshine states but didn’t stay too long in any of them—it was the gambling centers of Las Vegas and to a lesser extent Reno. So in a sense he was home when he committed his crime, although he was in a Vegas hotel.

Does psychopathy run in families? Maybe, say the researchers. Paddock’s shocked and talkative younger brother Eric says that his father was on the run by the time Eric was born and therefore not much of an influence on their lives, but since Stephen was eight years older than Eric we can conclude that their father probably was a much greater environmental influence during Stephen’s formative years until the age of eight. And of course their father would have been a genetic influence for all his children.

So there’s a criminal and possibly psychopathic father, and Stephen himself seemed drawn to the risky business of gambling. On the move, married once (briefly?), no children, holding various legit jobs until making a financial killing (to coin a phrase) in real estate, at least according to his brother. I wonder, though, whether Stephen might have actually made his money in a shadier enterprise and gave the real estate explanation as a cover story. Something about his constant moving and the very low profile indicates at least the possibility.

So he might have been a shady character right along, who kept a low profile and let no moss grow under his feet, and found his natural home in casinos, where he felt most comfortable.

What made him decide to become a killer? After all, he’s older than most mass murderers, and isn’t described as having been particularly rageful, or rageful at all. My guess is that politics was not the issue, but that’s just a guess (like most of what I’m writing here). I think he wanted to die for some reason, and decided to let his destructive impulses out prior to killing himself. And I think he did that because he was a psychopath who wanted to kill, to go out in what he considered a blaze of glory.

If I’m correct about that—and I have no idea whether I am—he would have most resembled Columbine shooters Harris and Kliebold, of the mass killers that come to mind. That may seem like an odd thing to say, since they were high school students and he was well into his sixties. But here’s what I’m basing the statement on [emphasis mine]:

”¦Harris and Klebold planned for a year and dreamed much bigger. The school served as means to a grander end, to terrorize the entire nation by attacking a symbol of American life. Their slaughter was aimed at students and teachers, but it was not motivated by resentment of them in particular…

The killers, in fact, laughed at petty school shooters. They bragged about dwarfing the carnage of the Oklahoma City bombing and originally scheduled their bloody performance for its anniversary. Klebold boasted on video about inflicting “the most deaths in U.S. history.” Columbine was intended not primarily as a shooting at all, but as a bombing on a massive scale. If they hadn’t been so bad at wiring the timers, the propane bombs they set in the cafeteria would have wiped out 600 people. After those bombs went off, they planned to gun down fleeing survivors. An explosive third act would follow, when their cars, packed with still more bombs, would rip through still more crowds, presumably of survivors, rescue workers, and reporters. The climax would be captured on live television. It wasn’t just “fame” they were after – Agent Fuselier bristles at that trivializing term – they were gunning for devastating infamy on the historical scale of an Attila the Hun. Their vision was to create a nightmare so devastating and apocalyptic that the entire world would shudder at their power.

Well, I don’t know if Paddock was that ambitious, but I think his impulse was most likely similar.

The other comparison that comes to mind is to Charles Whitman, the Texas Tower Sniper of 1966. The similarities there involve the high-up sniper perch, and the seeming lack of obvious or conventional motivation (even Whitman—who kept voluminous journals—didn’t understand why he had these aggressive impulses and was trying to puzzle it out). On autopsy, Whitman was found to have had a brain tumor that may or may not have been the cause or at least a contributing factor in his aggression, and doctors have been arguing about that ever since. I wonder whether an autopsy of Paddock will reveal any brain changes that might possibly explain (or at least partially explain) his sudden turning.

I have little doubt we’ll learn more about the shooter as time goes on. But I doubt we’ll learn enough to understand all that much. Perhaps Trump’s characterization is the best explanation we’ll ever have: “an act of true evil.”

Posted in Evil, Violence | 54 Replies

No sympathy for the Republican devils

The New Neo Posted on October 2, 2017 by neoOctober 2, 2017

The Daily Caller reports on the following heartwarming thought expressed in a Facebook conversation:

A top legal executive at CBS, Hayley Geftman-Gold, said she “is not even sympathetic” for the victims of the shooting at a country music festival at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas Sunday night.

“If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing,” wrote Geftman-Gold on Facebook, perhaps referring to Sandy Hook. “I’m actually not even sympathetic bc country music fans often are Republican gun toters.”

It’s not all that unusual to find expressions of vindictive hatred of the political sort on left or on right. I’ve certainly read and/or heard it coming from each side. At this point, I’m not even going to get into the question of which side is more likely to express such thoughts; I have my theories, but they are just theories.

I don’t often discuss this sort of stuff when it occurs, but I mention Geftman-Gold’s statements because it astounds me that someone who is a media lawyer would write such things in such a public forum, knowing the sort of scrutiny social media platforms draw (her current position is listed as “VP, Senior Counsel, Strategic Transactions at CBS”). It’s not the least bit surprising to me that someone in such a position might hold the point of view she expressed; as I said, I’ve seen more than enough of the “I don’t care if the opposition dies; they’re all evil” point of view from both sides. But why did Geftman-Gold allow herself to write this on Facebook? Did she think it wouldn’t come back to bite her?

Well, maybe it won’t—although someone (not Geftman-Golds herself, it has been reported) has removed her offensive words, it’s not at all clear that there will be any repercussions for their author at her job. Who knows what CBS will or won’t do? Perhaps nothing. [Note added 4:45 PM: See ADDENDUM below; CBS has fired her.]

But whatever happens, I would wager that what prompted Geftman-Golds to feel quite safe in expressing her sentiments is the fact that she most likely lives in a liberal bubble that has allowed and even at times encouraged such thoughts. I’ve lived in liberal bubbles, and I still operate in smaller liberal bubbles at times, and although I’ve never personally heard anything quite approaching the viciousness of Geftman-Golds’ remarks, I hear plenty of hatred and contempt expressed for Republicans in general.

It’s pretty standard, and after a while it becomes a sort of expected background noise to those who frequent such circles continually, and whatever shock value it might have had (if it had any in the first place) probably starts wearing off. If everyone considers expressions of hatred for members of a political party standard and worth hardly a yawn, after a while those expressions might start to escalate.

I am almost certain that, were she asked to explain herself—and if she were to give an honest answer—Geftman-Golds would say that she was right to say what she said because after all she was only defending children from being killed by firearms, and Republicans think it’s just hunky-dory if children are slaughtered in that way as long as the Republicans can keep their precious guns. Something like that. Despite being a lawyer, I doubt she has any true understanding of the Second Amendment, what it means and why it is important to defend. And I very much doubt she hobnobs with any Republicans or country music aficionados, so she felt quite free to demonize them.

In sum, I believe it’s likely that Geftman-Golds felt philosophically safe inside her bubble, and didn’t even think her remarks would be especially controversial or objectionable.

I am fairly certain that the majority of liberals I know (and by extrapolation, the majority of liberals) would not side with Geftman-Golds’ point of view on the victims of the Las Vegas shooting. But I certainly am acquainted with quite a few liberals who detest Republicans as a group and think them not just misguided but evil. And—at least online—I’ve met quite a few people on the right who feel very much the same about Democrats as a group.

[NOTE: The title for this post is a variation on this.]

[ADDENDUM: More in a similar vein, from a teacher.

However, CBS has fired Geftman-Gold:

“This individual, who was with us for approximately one year, violated the standards of our company and is no longer an employee of CBS. Her views as expressed on social media are deeply unacceptable to all of us at CBS. Our hearts go out to the victims in Las Vegas and their families,” said CBS’s statement.

I say good for CBS. Geftman-Gold wasn’t just expressing a political point of view, she was expressing an idea that people on both sides should (and mostly do) find abhorrent.

And of course it’s her right to express it. And it’s CBS’s right to fire her for a particularly reprehensible statement, especially as she was a legal counsel for them.]

Posted in Liberals and conservatives; left and right, Violence | 88 Replies

Ken Burns’ Vietnam

The New Neo Posted on October 2, 2017 by neoOctober 2, 2017

I’ve already said that I wasn’t going to watch Ken Burns’ documentary on Vietnam, and why.

But of course lots of other people have watched it. Here’s a report from Powerline’s Scott Johnson:

Watching the Ken Burns/Lynn Novick documentary history of the war, I was disappointed to hear the conflict described as a civil war as late as episode 10, covering the war’s denouement in 1975. Under the prestigious auspices of Burns and PBS, the documentary recirculates a goodly share of the tripe that I credulously consumed back in the day. Looking around online this morning, I find I wasn’t the only one to notice.

The series concluded its original broadcast on Thursday evening. PBS has posted each of the 10 episodes as broadcast here and other versions here. The filmmakers dug up some remarkable footage. They conducted interesting interviews with Vietnamese participants. They have reopened discussion of history that continues to haunt.

Unsurprisingly, the series tilted to the left. The languid pace of the series’ narration by Peter Coyote was stupefying. Given the languid pace, I found various aspects of the documenatary’s superficiality especially irritating. The documentary’s superficiality facilitated the leftward tilt.

Johnson recommends watching a panel discussion on the program, held by the Center for Strategic and International Studies:

The panel included three members of the documentary’s historical advisory group. Representing a wide range of perspectives, the participants on the CSIS panel included Mark Moyar himself, of course, but also Thomas Vallely (Harvard University), Lewis Sorley (independent scholar), Marc Selverstone (University of Virginia), Gregory Daddis (Chapman University), Nu Anh Tran (University of Connecticut) and Jay Veith (independent scholar). Erik Villard (US Army Center of Military History) moderated the discussion.

Here’s the video. I haven’t watched it yet (the discussion doesn’t begin till minute 35, and the entire video is long), but Johnson highly recommends the portion in which Lewis Sorley speaks, beginning at minute 48.

I’ve read Sorley’s book A Better War and found it impressive and persuasive. I discussed Sorley’s two Vietnam books here, here, and here.

Posted in Literature and writing, Theater and TV, Vietnam | 8 Replies

Tale of a different shooting—and recovery

The New Neo Posted on October 2, 2017 by neoOctober 2, 2017

Steve Scalise’s story.

Posted in Uncategorized | 2 Replies

High death toll in Las Vegas mass murder

The New Neo Posted on October 2, 2017 by neoOctober 2, 2017

Terrible terrible news:

A gunman perched high on the 32nd floor of a Las Vegas Strip casino unleashed a shower of bullets down on an outdoor country music festival below, killing at least 50 people and wounding more than 400 as tens of thousands of frantic concert-goers screamed and ran for their lives, officials said Monday. It was the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

President Donald Trump called the attack “an act of pure evil.”

Country music star Jason Aldean was performing Sunday night at the end of the three-day Route 91 Harvest Festival when the gunman opened fire across the street from inside the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino.

SWAT teams quickly descended on the concert and the casino, and officers used explosives to get into the hotel room where the suspect was inside, authorities said. The gunman was found dead at the scene and was identified by Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo as Stephen Paddock, 64. A motive was not immediately known.

Police said Paddock was found dead with as many as 10 firearms.

We know very very little about the shooter at this point. He’s a white man, said to have a criminal history and be from the area. Predictably, ISIS has claimed he’s acting on their behalf; they’re eager to ally themselves and take “credit” for just about any evil, but that doesn’t mean their claim is true although it could be.

I think it’s a safe guess that Paddock was an angry guy whose ambition was to go down as one of the biggest mass murderers in history. He succeeded in getting the US record in terms of shootings:

The shooting at the sold-out Route 91 Harvest festival was the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. Forty-nine people were killed when a gunman opened fire at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando in June 2016.

I’m no firearms expert, but it seems to me it would be pretty easy to kill people in a large, massed crowd, even if firing from as far away as the 32nd floor of a building, because of the huge crush of people. You wouldn’t have to be a particularly good shot.

That SWAT team no doubt prevented further carnage.

I will update this post as more news develops.

UPDATE 11:40 AM:

It is being reported that—as might be suspected—the shooter died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. My guess is that (if the report is correct) this occurred at or near the time that the police were engaged in breaking into the shooter’s hotel room (sniper’s nest) with explosives.

The shooter’s brother reports being shocked by the events and knowing nothing about his brother’s possible motive, saying, “He’s just a guy.”

But a guy who apparently wanted to go down in history for something, even if (or especially if?) that something was evil.

Prayers for the wounded survivors, the dead, and their families.

On Trump’s response.

UPDATE 12:05 PM:

As so often seems to be the case with these events, the most complete coverage so far is in the British press.

Posted in Evil, Violence | 33 Replies

Makeovers for the mature

The New Neo Posted on September 30, 2017 by neoSeptember 30, 2017

I continue to love makeovers. They cheer me up.

I love the transformations, and I particularly love the ones by “The Makeover Guy,” who deals with people of all ages but definitely seems to concentrate on women over 50.

I especially like the discussion here of the somewhat-grumpy “resting face” of this 75-year-old woman. This is one of the makeover videos where it’s hard to believe it’s the same person after the makeup and hair changes:

As a person with naturally curly/frizzy hair, I feel a certain kinship with this next lady, who is especially hair-challenged. But she seems to have made no effort at all to tame her mane prior to the makeover. Although I happen to really like gray hair on a lot of women, sometimes it’s not good on women with florid coloring such as hers, and so the decision to dye it here was probably for the best.

What a beauty she ends up being. A bit like a cross between Raquel Welch and Bette Midler:

Posted in Fashion and beauty, Uncategorized | 4 Replies

Simplicity itself: XX, XY

The New Neo Posted on September 30, 2017 by neoSeptember 30, 2017

A while back, commenter “parker” wrote—and I think he spoke for a lot of people when he said it:

It is simple, because I admit I am a simpleton. Born XY you are male, Born XX you are female.

Now of course parker is no simpleton; he was being sarcastic. He’s only repeating what we learned in school about XX and XY, and there’s no reason most of us would ever have to learn differently. What’s more, for the vast majority of human beings, “XY you are male, XX you are female” accurately describes the way it works.

But actually, that’s not the whole story. In fact, there are a host of in-between physical states that can create all sorts of intersex anomalies, some involving disorders of the sex chromosomes themselves and some involving disorders of other systems that affect the way sex assignation is physically expressed. In other words, genotype is not always unambiguous, and what’s more, phenotype does not always match genotype.

Before I go on, I need to deal with the question of where transgendered people might fit in. The vast majority lack any genetic anomalies of the sort I’m describing. So this post is not about the vast majority of transgendered people, or about transgendered people (in the social sense) at all. It’s about other people who have anomalies of sex chromosomes (or other physical anomalies) that can cause a wide variety of sexual characteristics and categories that differ from that simple binary system as parker described it and as most of us learned it.

Some of these anomalies are obvious at birth and involve genitalia that are ambiguous. Other anomalies only become obvious at puberty when secondary sexual characteristics don’t develop in the normal manner. Others manifest still later, when infertility is the first sign. Some are disorders in which the child is born with either XX or XY and the problem is in some other system that affects the development of sexual characteristics.

This is helpful in understanding that sometimes the simple-seeming nature of the thing is actually relatively unsimple:

It is true that in typical male development, the SRY gene on the tip of the Y chromosome helps to send the embryo down the masculine pathway. But more than the SRY is needed for sex determination and differentiation; for example, women with CAIS (Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome) have the SRY gene [and therefore are conventionally genetically male] but lack androgen receptors. In terms of hormone effects on their bodies (including their brains), women with CAIS have had much less “masculinization” than the average 46,XX woman because their cells do not respond to androgens [46,XX women have less androgen but more “masculinization” because they do respond to the smaller amount of androgen produced by the bodies].

Moreover, the SRY gene can be translocated onto an X chromosome (so that a 46,XX person may develop along a typical masculine pathway), and there are dozens of genes on chromosomes other than the X and the Y that contribute to sexual differentiation. And beyond the genes, a person’s sex development can be significantly influenced by environmental factors (including the maternal uterine environment in which the fetus developed).

So it is simply incorrect to think that you can tell a person’s sex just looking at whether he or she has a Y chromosome.

Also, please take a look at this list of conditions of this type. Click on each of them and you’ll find an explanation for how it works.

I had to learn a lot about these conditions in a course that was required for my graduate degree, and I was as surprised as anyone to find that the physical situation was far more complex than I’d originally thought.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Posted in Health, Men and women; marriage and divorce and sex, Science | 22 Replies

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