A while back we had a Great Musicals Debate here in which commenter Richard Saunders wrote, in response to my saying that I much prefer the original stage version of “Guys and Dolls” to the Brando/Sinatra film version:
Neo — I can’t remember a more serious disagreement I’ve ever had with you! Okay, maybe Marlon Brando might not be a great singer, but Sinatra as Nathan Detroit, Jean Simmons as Sarah, Sheldon Leonard as Big Julie, how can you beat that? And all the people who came from the show — Vivian Blaine, Stubby Kaye, B.S. Pulley, Johnny Silver, what about them? Sky’s response to Nathan in their scene in Lindy’s is a rule I’ve held to my whole adult life.
I can take the heat, so I won’t get out of the kitchen.
Of course, Sky’s response to Nathan is in the script, both the play and the film, so we can’t use that as an example to distinguish one from the other. Part of the difference between stage musicals and filmed ones is a matter of more projection and broadness—after all, you have to reach the balcony—and a film is of necessity more subtle and naturalistic. And part of the difference is that something about that proscenium arch and all those fellow audience members shifting and breathing around you reminds you that you’re in a theater and this is a stage, and there’s the excitement of a live performance that really can’t be captured on a film or video. It’s something like watching an acrobat on a high wire without a safety net. This is it, the performers stand or fall in this moment, and there’s greater risk and even danger that can lead to a heightened reaction in the audience.
That’s the general argument in favor of theater. But in particular, in the case of “Guys and Dolls,” although the movie makers had the excellent judgment to hire some of the wonderful stage play originals—the ones Richard Saunders lists—that certainly doesn’t give the movie any advantage over the play, it only means that those roles are played very very well.
Marlon Brando is only in the movie, and Richard Saunders and I seem to agree on his general deficiencies in the role. And it’s not just that although he’s a serviceable singer he’s not a good one. It’s that Sky is a big singing role as compared to, for example, that of Nathan Detroit. Sky has all the beautiful ballads, as well as the fabulous “Luck Be a Lady,” and they’re all songs that require really good singing.
Jean Simmons is okay, another thing on which we agree. She can actually sing—and, like Sky, she needs to be able to sing because her role is also a role that absolutely requires it.
And then there’s Nathan Detroit, played by Frank Sinatra in the film and Sam Levene in the play. Ah, Sinatra! Sinatra is a great singer of a particular type: smooth as silk, usually specializing in songs of heartache, although he’s also rather versatile. He’s Italian and not Jewish. But why on earth would that matter? Because Nathan Detroit, more than any other role in the play, is written with a lot of Jewishisms and/or Yiddishisms—words, gestures, accent, cadence—as an integral part the character. And it’s really not a singing role, although that’s Sinatra’s specialty.
The role’s creator Sam Levene was not a singer; he’s much worse at singing than Brando ever was. But he doesn’t even try to sing. He was adept at the Jewish vernacular that’s built into the song, and the role fit him like a glove. I had never read this part of Levene’s Wiki entry before looking it up for this post, but I’m not surprised at what it says:
Although not known as a singer, Sam Levene originated the role of Nathan Detroit in the original 1950 Broadway production and original cast recording of the musical Guys and Dolls, and later reprised the role of Nathan Detroit in 1953 in the first UK production of Guys and Dolls. His solo number, “Sue Me,” was written in one octave to compensate for his lack of vocal range. Sam Levene lost the role to Frank Sinatra in the film version. Guys & Dolls director Joseph L. Mankiewicz wanted original Broadway star Sam Levene, but producer Sam Goldwyn insisted on giving the part to Frank Sinatra. Joseph L. Mankiewicz said “if there could be one person in the world more miscast as Nathan Detroit than Frank Sinatra that would be Laurence Olivier and I am one of his greatest fans; the role had been written for Sam Levene who was divine in it”. Fordham Professor of Music Larry Stempel, author of “Showtime: A History of the Broadway Musical Theater” said if given a choice, he would cast Sam Levene, who created the role on Broadway, as the ideal Nathan Detroit instead of Nathan Lane, who played the part in the Broadway revival or Frank Sinatra, who played the part on film, stating “Musically, he may have been tone-deaf, but he inhabited Frank Loesser’s world as a character more than a caricature.”
Exactly and precisely what I think about it. Your mileage may differ, of course. That’s fine. But to me, Sinatra—despite his brave efforts—fails.
First let’s have the smooth-as-silk Sinatra, singing to Vivian Blaine (the originator of the stage role of Adelaide) in the film, crooning beautifully as always, but trying to find the right inflection for “So, nu?” and IMHO failing at that (making it a bland “So new?”):
Now we have the stage version (the London revival)—which of course is broader in style, because the performers have to reach the rafters (and in those days mics were rare)—with the non-singing Levine and the fabulous Blaine once again. You may think there’s too much schtick here. But to me it’s authentic shtick, and very entertaining. Note also, in contrast to the relatively immobile Sinatra, how much Levine uses physical gestures (in particular his hands), and how his attention is absolutely riveted on Blaine/Adelaide and is responsive to her. This is a couple who’ve been together a long time, having a fight:
[NOTE: Let me add that they eliminated many great songs in the movie: “A Bushel and a Peck,” “Marry the Man Today,” and “I’ve Never Been in Love Before”—as well as “Take Back Your Mink,” for which they substituted one of the few bad songs Frank Loesser ever wrote, “Pet Me Poppa.”]
