Just go to a site like Drudge today and you’ll see the furor in the list of headlines, which I reproduce here minus the links:
Get out of USA, Trump tells congresswomen!
Cortez fires back: We don’t fear you!
President Defends…
‘Many people agree with me’…
Republicans muted…
Tweet too far?
Hollywood Erupts…
Canada, UK Condemn…
Dem to force impeachment vote…
FLASHBACK Lindsey Graham: Trump is ‘race-baiting, xenophobic bigot’…
‘He doens’t have a clue about anything, he is just trying to get his numbers up’…
That’s above the photo (of Trump and Ilhan Omar, not together but side-by-side head shots), and below it we have: “‘YOU CAN’T LEAVE FAST ENOUGH'” in huge block letters.
Then we have analyses of what Trump actually wrote, why he wrote it, whether it was a good idea or a bad idea, and nearly endless variations on these themes. I suggest reading this by John Hinderaker, for example. And after you read that, take a look at this comment on the thread:
“..his ill-advised theme that the Congresswomen should go back to the countries they came from–ill-advised..”
If you are going to take on the president, you should quote him correctly. President Trump NEVER said they should go back to the countries they came from”…………
Why are you distorting the President’s tweet?
Let me be the one to correct you…
President Trump tweeted:
“Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came”
Go back and HELP; that is completely different than your inference that Trump said leave this country, go back to where you came.
Another interesting exchange.
Trump plays hardball. He’s not conventionally “nice.” He is strategic and tactical. Whether this particular tactic will work as he wishes, I don’t know. But my guess is that it won’t change anyone’s mind about Trump or about AOC and company.
As for the tactics, and an analysis of what Trump actually wrote (rather than what people imagine he wrote, or imagine he meant, or would like you to think he meant) Ann Althouse does the job here. I could quote it all, but just read the whole thing and you’ll see what I mean.
However, people don’t ordinarily parse things that way. In fact, my guess is that most people outraged at what Trump has written are (1) always outraged at whatever Trump says or writes; and/or (b) merely read someone else’s paraphrase of what he wrote.
Because this is what he actually wrote, with the sequence of tweets put together into paragraphs by Althouse:
So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly……..and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how…. ….it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!
And from later on:
So sad to see the Democrats sticking up for people who speak so badly of our Country and who, in addition, hate Israel with a true and unbridled passion. Whenever confronted, they call their adversaries, including Nancy Pelosi, “RACIST.” Their disgusting language….. ….and the many terrible things they say about the United States must not be allowed to go unchallenged. If the Democrat Party wants to continue to condone such disgraceful behavior, then we look even more forward to seeing you at the ballot box in 2020!
Althouse adds that it made her think of the Vietnam era slogan “America, love it or leave it.” That’s true, but although I’m of that era, that’s not what it conjured up for me.
For me, it was the memory of my maternal grandmother.
I loved my grandmother very very much. She was a woman of dignity and intelligence and warmth, and she was very civically active and involved. She was also a real patriot.
And a liberal Democrat.
What I’m remembering in particular was family dinners when my uncle (we’ll call him “Joe”), my father’s brother, was in attendance. I’ve written about this uncle before; I don’t have time to find the posts now, but he was a leftist, a Communist or Communist sympathizer and constant critic of the US and booster of the USSR. This uncle was the source of many a family argument, and his way of thinking was my introduction to the mindset of leftist fanatics.
Suffice to say, it probably inoculated me from leftism for life, although I was a liberal Democrat at the time, as was my entire family.
If my grandmother happened to be there she would listen with mounting anger. Finally, in a voice absolutely quivering with rage, she would say, “Joe, if you like Russia so much, go back there.”
Uncle Joe had been born in Belarus and brought to this country at the age of three by his parents. My grandmother’s family had come here in the 1840s, on the other hand. But he had an answer for my grandmother, and I remember it this way, “I’d love to, but I need to stay here and fix all the things wrong with this country.”
So that’s what Trump’s tweets conjured up for me.
Back in the 1950s and 1960s, when these exchanges between my uncle and my grandmother occurred, her sentiments were the sort of thing that mainstream liberal Democrats could get behind. Not any more.
Here are the thoughts of Arthur Chrenkoff, an immigrant who sees it my grandmother’s way:
…[L]et me make this observation as a migrant (from Poland to Australia, on the insignificant oft-chance you have not heard me telling you this about twenty times before) who happens to be very happy in his new home and very grateful to the nation that adopted me.
In just about every Western society I am aware of there is a sizable minority of probably between 10 and 20 per cent of the population who appear to be deeply and profoundly unhappy about the shape and the direction of their own country. This sentiment ranges from a sheer hatred and loathing of the society, which is deemed irredeemably unjust, oppressive, racist, and any number of other characteristics usually ending in -ist or -phobic, and it only deserves to survive if radically transformed, all the way to a milder disappointment and despondency that the society (and the general population) constantly fail to live up to one’s standards of what is good and desirable.
To all these people I always want to say: You know that you are not imprisoned and kept by force where you are, don’t you? If you really so passionately dislike just about everything about your country, you have to ask yourself a question – why suffer? why keep putting yourself through this endless unhealthy rage and frustration? There are many different types of societies around the world, some of which are without doubt a lot closer to your vision of what an ideal community should be like. Wouldn’t you be happier living somewhere else? It just doesn’t make sense to me that you would want to live in a place you don’t like when you have options to live in places you would.
In moments of my own great frustration I call it the FOSE principle, which simply stands for “F*** Off Somewhere Else”.
The principle is colour blind and doesn’t discriminate between people who are “native” and those who might have only recently arrived from somewhere else…
Of course, if you are indeed a recent immigrant then the FOSE principle sometimes can be inelegantly phrased (as it has been in this case by Trump) as “go back to where you came from”. Going back to where you came from might in any case be impossible or would not actually result in a greater personal satisfaction, but going somewhere else can…
In closing, I offer a very little-known poem by Robert Frost, published in 1947. It’s not one of his poetic poems; it’s more of a verse, and it’s political. I’ve discussed this poem before, in this post. I’ll merely reproduce it here:
A CASE FOR JEFFERSON
Harrison loves my country too,
But wants it all made over new.
He’s Freudian Viennese by night.
By day he’s Marxian Muscovite.
It isn’t because he’s Russian Jew.
He’s Puritan Yankee through and through.
He dotes on Saturday pork and beans.
But his mind is hardly out of his teens:
With him the love of country means
Blowing it all to smithereens
And having it all made over new.
[ADDENDUM: And here are some interesting comments at Althouse’s thread:
GRW3 said…
It’s what the Normals are thinking. One of the things Trump does is put the Normal opinion on issues on the mainstage. That’s why a lot of people like him. No he doesn’t act “Presidential” because for the Normals, acting Presidential means a Republican being silent while vile forces thrash them and the country they love. They’re tired of that. OK, only one was born ex-US but two of the other three espouse the policies and government structures of their parents homelands. AOC is welcome to go to the socialist paradise of Venezuela and fix it, make that socialism work.
7/15/19, 6:25 AM
AllenS said…
We don’t care if Trump is not precise in his words, we know what he’s talking about.
7/15/19, 6:31 AM
Unknown said…
This is the greatest happening of my lifetime
7/15/19, 6:31 AM
Unknown said…
He says what everyone thinks.
7/15/19, 6:32 AM
gspencer said…
“America, love it or leave it”
Applied then.
Applies today.
7/15/19, 6:32 AM
Unknown said…
Forcing them to band together to defend their worst
is instinctive genius.
7/15/19, 6:33 AM ]
[ADDENDUM II: Here’s what Bookworm has to say—that Trump is just pushing the Overton Window back to normal.]