Since the firestorm erupted around the release of the audio of Trump’s remarks to Billy Bush in 2005, there have been a number of arguments advanced to counter it. One very popular one involves comparisons to Bill Clinton’s misbehavior and the fact that Democrats circled the wagons to defend it, as well as that of JFK and other presidents alleged to have been philanderers. It’s said we should be more like the Democrats and Stand By Our Man. It’s also said that anyone who wasn’t scandalized by Bill Clinton shouldn’t be scandalized by Trump.
I’m going to point out some differences between the two situations.
The first is that when Bill Clinton was running for president in 1992—which is when news of his philandering first came out on a national level—he had been a multiple-term governor (starting at the age of 32, by the way), a founder of the Democratic Leadership Council, and the head of the National Governors Association. In other words, he had a ton of political executive experience and was widely recognized as a leader in the Democratic Party. He was a very successful politician, a loyal Democrat, and popular as well. Also, when he ran for president in 1992, he successfully squelched what were at the time only rumors of infidelity (for example, Broddrick didn’t make her allegations until a couple of weeks after Clinton’s impeachment, after previously filing a 1997 affadavit saying the rumors were untrue). At no point did we have raunchy audiotapes of Clinton bragging about his sexual exploits and how his power enabled him to get women. If we had had them back then, my guess is that it would have sunk him on the national level, although of course I have no way to know for sure.
So some of the differences are timing, type of allegation vs. actual tape in the person’s own words, and previous political experience/affiliation. Clinton was a Democrat through and through, a successful and popular one who had been a reliable standard-bearer for the Democratic platform and the Democratic agenda. Later on, by the time the Lewinsky affair occurred, Clinton was already well into his second term as a popular Democratic president. The Democrats would have had no reason except morality to have abandoned him at that point, and morality wasn’t going to be enough motivation. They had the numbers, too, to fight conviction in the impeachment trial, and so they knew if they could hang tough, Clinton was never going to be convicted.
In contrast, Donald Trump is none of those things. To tell Republicans to Stand By Their Man would probably cause the majority of Republicans to say “But he’s not my man!” It isn’t really clear that Trump is even a Republican, and he is certainly not a tested Republican leader, or any sort of Republican leader at all except at this point a titular one. He has no history of having held political office. He is the most unpopular presidential nominee in history, and that was true even before these tapes surfaced. He was nominated without getting a majority of Republican primary votes. He has never led Hillary Clinton in the polls except very briefly and by figures well within the margin of error. These are not opinions; these are facts.
And we have actual tapes of his voice, saying some things that indicate he is drunk with power and what it can do for him sexually. It is easy for the listener to extrapolate from the tapes and imagine that Trump’s drunk with power, period. Hey, let’s give him more power!
This isn’t just about sex; not by a long shot. The tapes are about power. And although saying this is just locker-room talk, just machismo bragging, may indeed by true, there is no reason to imagine that these tapes will enhance his already very uncertain electability, and many reasons to imagine it will cause him to drop further in a race that he seems to be losing.
So why should Republicans stand by him? The only reason I’ve ever seen stated (and it’s not a bad one) is that it’s Trump or Hillary, and that Hillary is unconscionable. That may be enough to convince a lot of people on the right who see her as almost a demon. But it’s not going to appeal to the vast middle and/or to moderates that Trump needs in order to win.
What’s more—and quite importantly, I think—those tapes aren’t just a one-off. They are completely congruent with the Trump we already know (if we’ve been paying any attention, that is) from other venues. Such statements weren’t limited to things said supposedly off-the-record, with a hot mic (the Billy Bush remarks, that is). Many were said in public broadcasts with widespread dissemination, as part of Trump’s approximately two dozen appearances over the years on the Howard Stern program.
That’s a lot of appearances, and there are a lot of Trump quotes from the show—none of them in the nature of “locker-room talk,” because the Howard Stern show is a public forum and no locker room. In fact, you could say it takes locker-room talk out of the locker room and into the public airways, and anyone who appears on the show has to know that’s what’s going on. I’ve read that Stern has cleaned up his act somewhat in recent years; I wouldn’t know, since I’m not a listener or a fan. But most of the time when Trump was on, it was the Stern of olden days.
If you want to see some of the quotes I’m talking about, take a look, and there’s probably plenty more where those came from (some of this was well known even during the primaries, by the way, because it was already in the public domain). Now, I haven’t spent too much time in men’s locker rooms (full disclosure: none). But my guess is that statements like this particular one from Stern about Trump’s daughter Ivanka, and the response from Trump, aren’t what most men would let slide even under those circumstances, and it really is creepy-crawly, even to those accustomed to locker-room talk:
In another interview, from September 2004, Stern asks Trump if he can call Ivanka “a piece of ass,” to which Trump responds in the affirmative.
“My daughter is beautiful, Ivanka,” says Trump.
“By the way, your daughter,” says Stern.
“She’s beautiful,” responds Trump.
“Can I say this? A piece of ass,” Stern responds.
“Yeah,” says Trump.
Bill Clinton, JFK, LBJ, and whatever other philandering president you want to mention maintained at least a facade of decorum. Clinton was caught; the others kept their secrets during the entire time of their presidencies. This was done with the cooperation of the press, to be sure (note that the three I mentioned are Democrats). But Trump flaunts his, at least he did up till now. It indicates a lack of boundaries that is not about sex, not about political correctness, but about dignity and judgment and public behavior, something some voters still care about.
It isn’t even really about whether you care about those things (particularly in comparison to Hillary’s offenses, which are of a very different and non-sexual nature), or whether I care about them, or whether Trump’s sexual behavior in private has been worse than that of other presidents or just as bad or even a little bit better. It’s about the public nature of the evidence. It’s about how no one but the most devoted Trump admirers really wanted him to be president in the first place, and how most people do not seem to trust or like him. In order to win the election, Trump had to earn their trust. He hasn’t done it. He had to earn their respect; instead he has repelled them. He started from a weak and one-down position, and he’s dug himself a deeper hole, and this incident (the Billy Bush tapes) dug it still deeper.
People don’t want to be repelled by their president. And yes, Hillary also repels, but it’s a different sort of repugnance she engenders, and not enough people so far seem to have found her more repugnant than Trump. A lot of people especially don’t want to be repulsed by Trump before electing him, and they don’t want to be repulsed by a political novice whom they already don’t trust anyway. They don’t want a president to do it in the street and frighten the horses.
And let’s say for the sake of argument that Trump’s “doing it” is mere talk—although we don’t know that, either. (By the way, for those who say that Bill Clinton raped someone and that Trump is guilty of “mere words”: Clinton is alleged to have been a rapist, and Trump is alleged to have been a rapist, and both of them have been unfaithful to their wives.) If Trump’s sex talk is “mere talk,” it’s still talk that repels a lot of the people Trump needed to attract in order to win this election.





