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  1. “I have never felt he was of the Muslim faith–I strongly believe he is an agnostic or atheist, although I don’t know for sure of course.”

    To be fair, he was a staunch Christian when we elected him, although I suspect he was dozing through Rev Wright’s sermons since he couldn’t recall some of the Reverends pet doctrines. Since then though, don’t you think Obama’s been evolving? He’s always thinking, you know.

  2. Given that Obama can not openly extend direct aid to ISIS, if he were ‘on their side’ what would he be doing differently?

    By this, I don’t mean to suggest that Obama is a ‘closet’ supporter of terrorism, per se. I do mean to suggest that he is in favor of anything that reduces America’s influence and ability to act in the world. He also is undeniably, Islam’s foremost active defender among Western leaders.

    Obama shares George Soros’ belief that, “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States. For my agenda to advance, I need to have America come down in a controlled descent, not a complete crash.” It is also obvious that he supports Soros’ “controlled descent”.

  3. Not observant moslem, no. But emotionally, and culturally per his upbringing as a moslem boy in Indonesia? Of course.

    Here’s what Jeremiah Wright said when asked if he was able to convert Hussein to Christianity: “I wouldn’t go that far.” —

    [From Shoebat’s blog]:

    “In 2008, video recordings of Jeremiah Wright’s sermons came closer than anything else to derailing Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. Now, four years later, there appears to be audio recordings of Wright that may be damaging to Obama as well.

    Those recordings, allegedly in the possession of author Edward Klein, consist of Wright telling Klein some unflattering things, to include charges that Obama attempted to silence Wright in 2008.

    One claim had to do with Obama’s Christianity. During an appearance on Sean Hannity’s radio show, Klein said that Wright wouldn’t go so far as to say he converted Obama from Islam but he came awfully close:

    “…the Reverend Wright told me on tape, that Obama came to him and said, ‘I need some spiritual advice; I don’t know exactly who I am’ and the Reverend Wright said… ‘Well we know your Islam background… but what you need now, is some coaching on Christianity.’

    “And I asked the Reverend Wright ‘did you convert him from being a Muslim to being a Christian, and he said, ‘well, I don’t know if I could go that far but… I made it comfortable for him to accept Christianity without having to renounce his Islamic background.”

    Everyone should read the Shoebats’ (father and son) blog about this issue. Walid Shoebat was a terrorist member of the Muslim Brotherhood, and he later converted to Christianity. He’s been trying to break the denial of the West about this ever since:

    http://shoebat.com/2015/02/19/obama-makes-declaration-american-people-not-war-islam/

    It’s really not that complicated: a blind man could see it with a cane. Kind of like arguing about whether “fellow travelers” are “really Communists”: the difference between them, as Whittaker Chambers drily remarked, can be so slight as to be metaphysical.

    He sides with the warlike moslems at every opportunity. He loves the call to prayer. He was raised as a moslem. He blows off any actually MODERATE ones: e.g., the pro-democracy resistance in Tehran, the president of Egypt. He imports craploads of Syrians and Somalis, etc., etc.

    All this is designed to hogtie America and bare our throat for the knife.

  4. In the history or the human there are a lot of case and war driven by many causes, the main cause is religion/believe.

    This not today or yesterday or tomorrow scenario, this ongoing fact all along the history, if you look the destruction of the kingdom of Judah, it was on religion ground?

    Roman they came and destruct Jerusalem (597 BC) also it was on religion ground. And so forth whatever motive behind all wars the religion or faith or believe used, the question dose all those faiths and religions bad?

    You may say so, but the human mix of bad and good, definitely the bad one are the minority but the good one the majority.
    The question is why then the bad take control here the point you need to think deep why and tell us.
    Looking forward to hear from you here.

  5. Interesting that the DOD spokesman, Admiral John Kirby, quoted in that linked Daily Beast article as saying the U.S. relationship with Egypt is “complicated,” has just been outsed from that position by the new secretary of defense, Ashton Carter. Maybe Carter just wanting to bring in his own person, or maybe a signal of something else. I’m hoping for the latter.

  6. Ann
    Let take a look to US Diplomacy

    the record of American diplomatic achievement over the last thirty years doesn’t inspire a similar degree of confidence. We’re good with slogans, but we don’t have much talent for fostering the construction of exemplary democracies; we tend to betray our allies, dishonor our treaties, and avoid the waging of difficult or extensive wars. Count through the list of foreign adventures since our hurried departure from Vietnam in April 1975, and we proceed, in random and unseemly sequence, to the exit from Iran and the flight from Lebanon, the pointless assault on Panama, the shutting down of the Gulf War without ecisive victory, the abandonment of the Kurds in northern Iraq, the escape from Somalia, the refusal to intrude upon the killing in Rwanda or the Balkans. Drawn to despots whom we hire to represent our freedom-loving commercial interests (Diem, the Shah of Shahs, Somoza, Thien, Marcos, Jonas Savimbi, Noriega, Saddam Hussein, King Fahd, Arafat, Mobutu Sese Seko, Ariel Sharon), we pretend that our new ally stands as a pillar of democracy in one or another of the world’s poorer latitudes, and for however many years the arrangement lasts we send F-16’s and messages of humanitarian concern. But then something goes amiss with the band music or the tin mines; the despot’s palace guard doesn’t know how to fire the machine guns, or fires them at the wrong people, and the prime minister’s brother appropriates the traffic in cocaine. We decide that our virtue has been compromised, or that we no longer can afford the cost of the parliament, and we leave by helicopter from the roof of the embassy. The incoherence of our current policy in the Middle East (Saudi Arabia perceived by the Pentagon as our mortal enemy and by the White House as our dearest friend, ….

    THE ROAD TO BABYLON
    Searching for targets in Iraq
    By Lewis H. Lapham

  7. Maybe I read Althouse incorrectly, but it seemed she was leaning toward “Obama is very subtle and crafty….”. Which speaks to her continuing blind spot about The Won.

  8. I imagine that Obama thinks he’s an expert on Muslim orthodoxy for the same reason he thinks he’s a better speech writer than his speech writers and knows more about foreign policy than his policy experts.

    He’s an egotist that thinks whatever he believes has to be right. This is a problem for liberals in general, but for Obama it’s particularly so.

  9. Steve at 5:56 pm,

    Howard Zinn and Bill Ayers could not have said it better, they have nothing on Lapham. That you present that perverted historical synopsis as truth tells us all we need to know of you.

  10. “Roman they came and destruct Jerusalem (597 BC) also it was on religion ground.” Steve

    The Siege of Jerusalem in 597 BC was conducted by Nebuchadnezzar II, king of Babylon. In 70AD and again in 135AD, the Romans dispersed the Jews throughout the empire, the start of the Jewish diaspora. Neither Nebuchadnezzar II nor the Romans behaved as they did for religious reasons.

  11. Obama is not an atheist. An atheist doesn’t believe there’s a supreme being, while Obama believes himself to be the supreme being.

  12. I suspect that future historians will join with mental health officials to probe endlessly into Obama’s psyche.

    Historians will seek to discern motivation for bizarre decisions; the others to understand a phenomenon.

    I am not sure that the riddle that is Obama will ever be solved as it is locked behind so many, dare I say, pathologies.

  13. Language is critical. Bush tried to dodge a civilizational war by claiming we were fighting the tactic of terrorism. Obama attempts to avoid the civilizational war by pretending he can tell Muslims what is and is not Islam. What is required is to actually deal with the Quran, the Hadith, and Mohammad, that is the specifics aspects of each that al-Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, Wahhabist, Salafist and ISIS use to justify their actions. White washing won’t work. That many of these Islamist groups are killing fellow Muslims with high disregard provides an excellent global platform for discussing fundamental beliefs about the religion (i.e. perfect and last words of Allah, Mohammad as the perfect example, etc.). Also, the cavalier use of takfir to label any Muslim leader apostate, therefore worthy of assassination, makes it fairly easy to join with el-Sisi to challenge the orthodoxy. Obama is either siding with Islamists or in denial.

  14. Neale
    “That many of these Islamist groups are killing fellow Muslims with high disregard provides an excellent global platform for discussing fundamental beliefs about the religion”

    First part of your statement very truthful but the last bit not correct and it argubly confusing.

    The question is if these terrorist believer which they are not then the last stent became irrelevant as warped themselves worth islam.

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