The combination…
…of socialized medicine, widespread abortion, and energy conservation apparently has yielded this horror in Britain.
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…of socialized medicine, widespread abortion, and energy conservation apparently has yielded this horror in Britain.
Beyond the facts themselves, a close reading reveals much to curdle my blood:
-“the Human Tissue Authority has now been asked to ensure that it acts on this issue….” Authority? Been asked? By whom? To Ensure?
-“I am disappointed trusts may not be informing or consulting women and their families. This breaches our standard on respecting and involving people who use services….” Disappointed? Trusts not informing? Respecting and involving people who use services? Use?
– “Ipswich Hospital Trust said it was concerned to discover that foetal remains from another hospital had been incinerated on its site. A spokeswoman said: ‘The Ipswich Hospital NHS Trust does not incinerate foetal remains.’ She added that the trust ‘takes great care over foetal remains’. Hah. The hospital does not incinerate fetal remains except that it does, while taking great care. It is “concerned”.
This is DoubleSpeakLand. The anthropomorphization of beaurocratic faceless committees that dehumanize the humans (aka taxpayers) whom they “serve.”
Pfagh.
They’re not fetuses either; they are Tissues. And mind you pronounce in proper Brit fashion: Tiss-Huwes, not Tishooes.
One can not approve of abortion on the basis that this is not a human being but only a “clump of cells” and then be outraged and disgusted that the same item (for lack of a descriptive term) is being incinerated for heat.
IMO this has the capacity to put many abortion proponents in an unwinnable argument. It is also an excellent example of the kind of issue that can be effectively used to discount the left in the ways that Eric and I have been discussing. The horror of the emotional issue and the accompanying contradictory logic are a very toxic combination easy to both argue against and to emotionally disparage and ridicule.
T,
I doubt that those on the left are expressing outrage at this, do you know of any groups that are outraged ?
“At least 15,500 foetal remains were incinerated by 27 NHS trusts over the last two years alone, Channel 4’s Dispatches discovered”
Once you decide that a fetus is no more than a hangnail, at that point, ‘what difference does it make anyway’?
“Another NHS investigation last year found that 25% of new mothers were abandoned by their midwives during labor and that some were left to give birth on the floor or in corridors.”
A preview of ObamaCare or when superseded, government single payer with unelected bureaucrats deciding who lives and who dies. The left’s essential inhumanity revealed.
Sadly, not surprising. Perfectly logical behavior from amoral, secular humanists.
Read the telegraph article over my morning coffee and I did not find it surprising in the least. On the left side of the political spectrum a human fetus is considered to have no more inate dignity than a dead raccoon in the middle of the road; in fact it is deemed as less worthy of humane treatment. Our glorious leader voted against medical care for a late term fetus (aka a baby) that survived an abortion.
Barbarians long ago sneaked through the gates of civil society.
Geoffrey Britain,
I do not specifically know of any left-of-center individuals or organizations who have yet come out condemning this.
I do think, however, that it is a conundrum especially for women. Its easy to support abortion by convincing ones-self that one is only carrying a clump of cells. However an innately female urge is to love and protect new life. I think this issue encapsulates a deep-seated conflict.
Anecdotally: I know a married woman who became pregnant. In her discussion of her pregnancy she made it very clear that the pregnancy was unplanned and that she and her husband chose to keep the baby. Her narration of the delivery was very poignant and revealing. She said: “The first time I heard my son cry I realized that I had the baby I never knew I wanted. It was like someone flipped a switch.”
I’m drawing a supposition from what she said. I’d appreciate hearing from women on this issue. Is it possible that this sets up a conflict with such an innately female urge — especially for women who have already given birth?
What. The. Fuck.
That’s the most disgusting article I have ever read. No society with a lack of humanity like this can survive it’s own self loathing.
Soylent green is not that far away.
Makes one wonder if this also includes some of those “treated” with the Liverpool Care Pathway, which NHS has encouraged doctors to use via cash bonuses to hospitals in which the LCP target numbers are met.
Can’t you just hear it: C’mon, aren’t you for sustainability and green energy?
T,
Sadly, no. While in my own experience being pregnant really drove home that it is a human life – feeling my son squirm & respond to my touch, seeing him play with his toes in the sonogram, etc. – there are abortion warriors who are not moved in the least by their own experience with pregnancy & childbirth.
Exhibit A: Amy Richards. She wrote a NYT Magazine piece on her choice to selectively abort 2 of her triplets: http://tinyurl.com/5hphw
She is still an abortion activist, and worse, has written a book on being a mother without “losing yourself.” That’s right, she’s declared herself a motherhood expert and as such, gives speeches and appears on news panels on the topic (*shudders*).
Exhibit B: Cecile Richards, head of Planned Parenthood, mother of 3, whose organization uses Mother’s Day to fund raise (*more shudders*).
Better watch out for those fundamentalist luddites on the Christian right, folks.
You can never be sure when they’ll send civilization back to the Dark Age, with all that Ludditeness.
Lizzy, the Left has a tested mind control program that these kinds of subjects are put into.
People should really review the psychological reports of false memory implanting and brainwashing that the Left did in the US a few decades ago. It was centered around making women remember being molested as a child by their father.
It worked. Oh it worked.
So all these women with their aborted medals of glory? Easy extension.
Soylent Green… it’s what’s trending…
My own pregnancy was spectacularly unplanned. And I never knew what I was going to do about it … until the moment that the nurse at the military clinic told me that the test was positive, That I was pregnant. And that an abortion could be arranged for (through a local clinic off-base) if I wanted it.
I said, “No, I will keep the baby.”
It was said in the moment – not an inconvenient bunch of cells easily disposed of – but a baby. Two or three months after that, I had an appointment where I could listen to the heart-beat.
Never looked back, although that pregnancy cost me quite a lot, professionally. But I gained my daughter by it – and I had never really thought that I would have children.
Is there a difference between the secular West and the Carthaginian worship of Moloch who demanded child sacrifice?
No.
Modern Man is a Molochite. No better.
What is reasonable in any context depends on many factors, not only what is actually truthful and logical, but also what is perceived as truthful and “perceived” as logical.
What is reasonable IOW is dependent to some degree on what is not reasonable. I think of Abraham Lincoln as the avatar of this concept, a “conservative” concept, meaning a concept depending on more than a rudimentary level of sophistication or political calculation.
There is an insoluble mystery to the creation of another human being, both the absurd process and the astonishing result.
People who do not see the absurdity or the astonishment as morally significant do not have the rudimentary understanding of life to be trusted in their judgment.
When our newly-born granddaughter had lost a couple of ounces the first day or so, the nurse remarked that it’s an aquatic animal drying out, nothing to worry about. She was not being dehumanizing. I think she said “it’s like….” Not to worry.
From which I presume that babies, pound for pound, have relatively more water in them, consequently less energy, than pro-choice voters. The conclusion follows.
“. . . the creation of another human being, both the absurd process and the astonishing result.”
and why, pray tell, is the process absurd?
Sexual intercourse is the absurd process, sexual attraction is the absurd (and totally wonderful) but irresistible predicate.
Out of this we get another human being, and (what ought to be) the primary circumstance of morality?
Too funny.
But I did not answer your question, T.
The process is absurd because another human being is created out of jelly and egg, involving a ridiculous (but lovely and wonderful) powerful physical act.
A fully conscious creature is created out of this really funny act.
Catholic teaching is the only teaching (I am aware of) which realistically addresses the fact. I am not a Catholic, I am agnostic.
Tonawanda,
I see nothing “ridiculous” or “funny” about sexual intercourse. It is a biological act like eating, and like eating, many people have elevated it to the level of an art while some just treat it as a burger and fries. After all, a work like Michelangelo’s David is not just a hunk of stone any more than the Mona Lisa is just paint smears on a piece of wood.
The power of the Left is not merely an American phenomenon. It’s world wide.