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  1. Trump: There’s no end, there’s no time limit. We’re not doing a 99 or 10 year or anything else.

    I read an excellent article at the American Spectator a couple weeks ago arguing that a lease would be the best approach. We get what we want without having to buy or invade.

    If Trump is correct this is an even better deal than Andrew Wolf outlines in the article.

    https://spectator.org/the-smart-way-to-get-greenland/

  2. On this Twitter thread from Fox News about Rutte’s remarks, about half the responses are anti-Trump.

    What the hell do these people think? That Russia and China haven’t been and aren’t going to continue to aggressively try to take advantage of the strategically and resource rich region that is the Arctic if there’s no push back from NATO? Are they that deeply ignorant? Or are they just blinded by irrational hatred of Trump to such a degree that they can’t even begin to acknowledge that he may have a point in this? I mean, yeesh.

  3. I think a lot of people, both pro- and anti-Trump, both on the Left and the Right, have fallen for the narrative that Greenland is just Trump’s latest brainwave.

    But it isn’t. Clearly some faction of the American diplomatic and military establishment has been working toward an enhanced US presence in Greenland for some time, predating the first Trump administration.

    Legacy media did not see fit to make a fuss about it before, so it’s new to a lot of us, but it’s not actually new.

    Things are not happening because Trump shot off his mouth and everyone leaped to do his bidding. Even people who in theory report to Trump do not leap to do his bidding. Things are happening because a lot of highly placed people behind the scenes are working toward it. They clearly have Trump’s ear now, and may not have had Obama’s or Biden’s, but they were always working on it or it could not have moved as fast as it has appeared to.

    What Trump has done is make it a clearly articulated priority, and perhaps broke some kind of logjam in the diplomatic and military establishment that kept things from proceeding.

  4. CC™ is probably more deeply affected by Greenland than China, Roosia, or leftist Europeans, and not in a good way.

  5. I just now realized that the US, or China, or whoever, could pay every man, woman, and child in Greenland a million dollars to move somewhere else and the total cost would be under $60 billion.

    That’s about the cost of the first year of the war in Iraq in 2003.

    I’m sure it could be done for less than a million per person, but that would definitely be enough to move them. A family of four could buy a single-family house in Southern California and draw a six figure income on the remainder.

  6. Too many people, on the Left and the Right, just can’t get past Trump’s bombast. I don’t like it either, but I do understand it to some extent.

  7. If only the indigenous Greenlanders would call themselves northern Somail’s they’d be set for a new life in Minnesota, and already be acclimated. Acculturated is a whole ‘nother kettle of fish …., but that is frowned upon.

    But then they would be pining for the fijords in no time, but not in the parrot (or puffin?) sense. Yes, Atlantic Puffins are native to Greenland, not blue though?

  8. Nonapod

    I’m banking on irrational hatred of Trump. That side, I get the impression, doesn’t care if the country is destroyed as long as Trump and his supporters are treated like the Jews in Germany during WW2.

  9. Not even as a goodwill measure, strictly out of honor and dignity, the U.S. ought to return the Cape York meteorite to Greenland.

    When you read about U.S. Navy Lieutenant Robert E. Peary’s expedition to bring it to the U.S…. Wow! It reminds me of Harrison Ford in the movie, “Mosquito Coast.” A massive effort for a nonsensical purpose.

  10. Greenland has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. Highest among young men. And surprisingly, highest during the summer.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Greenland

    Various explanations are given, but I’ve read nothing particularly convincing. But if it’s young men, perhaps jobs and increased income from American projects might help.

  11. But TRUMP CAN’T POSSIBLY BE RIGHT!!

    Which gives one some idea of the problem at hand.

    Simply put, it’s a question of definitions (and therefore illogical). Unempirical.
    Totally subjective.

    Example A (of scads):

    “Trump Rages As Jack Smith Accidentally Exposed The Partisan Scam Behind The Jan 6 Probe”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/jack-smith-accidentally-exposed-partisan-scam-behind-jan-6-probe

    Example B:

    ‘”Go F**k Yourself!”: Brawl Nearly Breaks Out During Jack Smith’s Hearing’—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/go-fk-yourself-brawl-nearly-breaks-out-during-jack-smiths-hearing

  12. I feel like this is where Trump is in his element: dealmaking on the geopolitical scale. If you set aside all the deliberate trolling he’s been doing (and I get tired of that, even while I enjoy the fact that it drives his opponents crazy), he is emerging as having been right on the issue. If he can close the deal, I have no doubts it will be advantageous to us, and to Europe if they allow it to be.

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