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  1. They they having rioting, then Minneapolis would have brought it on themselves.

  2. The judge didn’t want his house burned to the ground and that’s why he imposed such a sentence.

    There will be looting and rioting tonight. The Left is *never* satisfied.

  3. A death that was not motivated by diversity; then, a novel judgment, social label, and democratic hunters that are. Nice (no diversity intended).

    There will be looting and rioting tonight.

    With a few “burdens” caught in the crossfire. Some, Select [Black] Lives Matter.

    I expect celebratory looting

    Doesn’t California have a legal bag limit for redistributive change?

  4. Like winning an NBA championship.
    Burn it all down & grab a few flatscreens while they’re at it.
    “Sow the wind & reap the whirlwind.”

  5. “There will be looting and rioting tonight.”

    We can only hope.

    Is it wrong though, I wonder, to laugh at cowards and weaklings suffering a fate they have brought upon themselves?

    Well, actually I don’t wonder. F**k-em.

  6. DNW:

    Oh, so you think the only people hurt by riots are those who deserve it and who are “cowards and weaklings” whom you laugh at?

    Generalize much? Simplistic much?

  7. Chauvin is innocent.

    Political imprisonment is a feature of the current Democrat/Fascist regime.

  8. neo on June 25, 2021 at 4:54 pm said:

    DNW:

    Oh, so you think the only people hurt by riots are those who deserve it and who are “cowards and weaklings” whom you laugh at?

    No. Nor did I say any such thing. Sure, there are no doubt elderly church-going grandmas who are stuck in districts lorded over by pink haired transsexual lunatics and woke schoolmarms. But you have to ask yourself … is there any point in trying to stay the hand of “Nature”, when it slaps back those who imagine they now sit on its throne?

    And basically, once the system of moral reciprocity has broken down, it is only saps or religious fanatics that go on acting as if it has not.

    Generalize much? Simplistic much?”

    When it comes to Portland or Minneapolis, it is not as if these polities don’t have an ideological history which they are proud of.

    So, yeah it’s a generalization. But I am not sure what is simplistic about shrugging at the fate of those who have for the most part insistently sown what they seem about to reap.

    Maybe you want to go off in search of those 10 righteous men … in such a case I would not try and stop you.

  9. This is how you create a martyr.

    It is also how you destroy a vital institution called the police force. Not just in Minneapolis.

    A very expensive decision.

  10. Oh, so you think the only people hurt by riots are those who deserve it and who are “cowards and weaklings” whom you laugh at?

    Neo, I think the city, if not the minority of sane voters who don’t want this, deserves to lose the entire police force. What will probably be left soon are those cops who cannot get a job in a better suburb or another field.

  11. There was a time when black heroes were not criminals…
    see Jesse Owens, Jackie Robinson, George Washington Carver, Frederick Douglas, Martin Luther King, Langston Hughes, Richard Wright, Bessie Coleman, Jesse LeRoy Brown, Matthew Henson,

    and if this place be oppressed, then how did Blanche K. Bruce, Robert Smalls, Joseph Rainey, John R. Lynch and Josiah Walls all become statesmen when once they were slaves?

  12. “ Judge Cahill has split the difference in favor of the prosecution, but not given them the full measure of what they’ve asked for:”

    Isn’t that such a pithy summary of Cahill’s conduct in this entire travesty? In many ways I despise him for it even more, because the supposed moderation makes the poison go down smoother.

  13. DNW:

    There are more than “a few elderly church-going grandmas” there who will be harmed, and who have not sought this.

    And you weren’t just “shrugging,” you were laughing and saying F-them about those you think “sought this,” most of whom probably did not.

  14. Cahill is unfit for the position he holds.

    Again, the disparity in sentencing is readily explained by the contemporary reality of liberal politics. Everything is status-driven.

  15. “The judge didn’t want his house burned to the ground and that’s why he imposed such a sentence.”

    Ah… the parallel to Pontius Pilate, in that to satisfy the mob, he condemns a man innocent of the charges made against him.

    History may not actually repeat itself but because human nature remains, it does have parallels.

  16. neo on June 25, 2021 at 7:02 pm said:

    DNW:

    There are more than “a few elderly church-going grandmas” there who will be harmed, and who have not sought this.

    And you weren’t just “shrugging,” you were laughing and saying F-them about those you think “sought this,” most of whom probably did not.”

    No, I did not say they ” ‘ sought this’ “. I said that they had brought it upon themselves and then in the subsequent comment that they were reaping what they had themselves sown.

    Would you like a cite in support of that contention?

    “The Minneapolis City Council is the legislative branch of the City of Minneapolis. It consists of 13 members, elected from separate wards to four-year terms. The Council is dominated by members of the DFL, with a total of 12 members. The Green Party of Minnesota has one member, Cam Gordon. Wikipedia”

    I was however asking if it was wrong to laugh and implied I could not find a reason not to.

    And with regard to those who voted the city council in? Yes … F’ them

  17. Owen,

    If you are the Owen that left the comment at Althouse today, e-mail me at twixella@aol.com. We have a discord for former Althouse commenters if you are interested.

  18. It is an injustice, but we are a banana republic these days with political prisoners, reeducation camps, and other sundries.

  19. The narrative will not support rioting and looting in the absence of a cause that can be leveraged for political gain – so I predict the police will be instructed not to allow it, and it won’t happen.

    Like his arrest, trial, conviction, and sentencing, Derek Chauvin’s survival in prison will be subject to the arbitrary and ever-shifting requirements of the narrative. There will be a reasonable effort to keep him safe, no more, and of course, ‘mistakes happen’, as Jeffery Epstein and James McAfee can no longer attest. Let’s hope Chauvin doesn’t know anything credible that can get anyone important into trouble.

  20. I was sad about this today for a little while, but I think I burned out most of my strong feelings during the trial, so fortunately, my mood of today passed relatively quickly. I’m glad that Chauvin at least got a chance to say something, no matter how brief. I was hoping for a little more meat on the bones, but I certainly understand his reasons for playing it close to the vest.

    I’m not sure if much is changed now that the sentencing is concluded. Apparently there were no dramatic, physical courtroom scenes today, right? I mean altercations or shouting or things like that.

  21. It is an injustice, but we are a banana republic these days with political prisoners

    A travesty of justice, social justice was serviced.

  22. One of my lefty Facebook friends had a conniption, and considered that he was getting off “light.” She since took down her post.

    I originally believed about 60% of what the media* was writing/saying about Chauvin. But then I followed the trial on Legal Insurrection. The man was railroaded; the trial was a travesty, a true travesty.

    * I should’ve known better than to believe even a fraction of that, considering what liars and knaves the media are

  23. You might recall a quote by Mencken that says “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”

    Implicit in that quote is (a) politicians tell the truth about what they intend and (b) the elections are fair and honest. It’s unlikely that either of those assumptions hold for Minneapolis, Portland, California, or the Democratic Party as a whole.

  24. I’m glad his mother defended him so strongly because so few have come out to question the idea that this was a racist murder–yet people were saying his mother should have apologized to the Floyd family. No matter what she said, it would not be enough for the people who think this police action was the crime of the century–worse than any murder ever. Supposing even that Chauvin did cause Floyd’s death and this was a case of excessive force, it was clearly unintentional and far from the worst case of police brutality. Reasonable doubt was quite a reasonable conclusion, but the jury disregarded the defense.

  25. Chris. As to politicians lying; that applies to their first campaign. After one or more terms, their work product is evident. If they continue to be elected, that’s what the voters want.

    For legal folks: AG Ellison said there was no racism in the death. So, do any of the charges require intent and, if so, was it addressed in the trial?

  26. DNW: “When it comes to Portland or Minneapolis, it is not as if these polities don’t have an ideological history which they are proud of.” Well, Pride becometh before the fall, and recall that Pride is the first and most deadly of the sins. I personally am not distressed to see those two sanctimonious cities sink into the ground. I have spent time in both and came away shuddering at the evident smugness.
    As far as I’m concerned, Chauvin’s entire trial was a parody, from the Judge that refused to grant a change of venue out of MSP, to seating of a juror who is (not was) a black bigot that had attended a black racist venue in another town months before, with video evidence to prove it, a man who had lied in defense questions regarding his suitability as a juror. Justice? Did not happen in the Chauvin trial, and the Democrat DOJ is not done with him either. It’s called “piling on”, and Americans reflexively do not like that.

    What is kind of neat about all this is Karma: the black minority is seen as, and is in fact, racist, and the majority white backlash will have its way with reborn racism. As to black cultcha, you can p*ss on that.

  27. 12 1/2 years is the Minnesota guideline for second degree homicide with a clean record. 40 years is the maximum.

  28. No one is going to mention that Saint Floyd once again, swallowed the drugs he had in order to hide them from the Police. That worked “last time. This time he was older and had boggy lungs from a bout of viral pneumonia (COVID-19?).

    Drugs are a young person’s game. Older hearts, lungs, and/or vascular systems don’t do as well. Even if the EMS crew is there, they are not miracle workers. It is even a crap-shoot that they will guess correctly about what that white powder was. Narcan/Naloxone may help if they have enough on hand, or not.

    I have never heard of patrol police having enough anti-psychotic meds to shut down a rage/run from a PCP-derivative or whatever might be in the stuff being sold as “bath salts”. Even if you survive without a heart attack or stroke, you might not survive the 9MM+P “sedatives” that are commonly used. You may be “crazy” and/or “stupid”, but it is not smart to expect that the First Responders are also.

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