Home » Denver ♥ Democratic Socialist Melat Kiros

Comments

Denver ♥ Democratic Socialist Melat Kiros — 40 Comments

  1. Socialism is the idea that the government will magically become competent, thrifty and incorrupt if we just give it a whole lot more power and money, despite centuries of evidence to the contrary.

  2. “We’re not ready for what it looks like when all those jobs potentially get taken away and wiped out by machinery,” she said.
    What she says sounds nice, but I will bet you she doesn’t care about working people. Elder Care? You mean like Canada?
    Wonder who will be primaried next time here in CO? Jason Crow maybe?
    CO is loosing population, because the rent and basic living expenses are too high. Her solutions will make it worse.
    I guess I can take comfort in knowing, that for now, state reps are not socialist. YET

  3. Fortunately, if she wins in November, she will be only one vote. And I would suggest that her votes, if that is to happen, will be very close to, if not identical, those of the incumbent had she won.

    Her reasoning hits a bump when she says “machines” will take people’s jobs. All she knows is bureaucratic, des-jockey jobs that are very susceptible to the machines… However, it is not the machine that fixes your plumbing or adds that circuit for the Tesla, or repairs the leak roof. (This is not an exhaustive list.) The people who opt for trade school over the “clear path to success” offered by the 4-year degree will continue to prosper. At some point our economy requires that someone get his hands dirty.

    The “big 6”; Rancher, Farmer, Fisher, Logger, Miner, Driller. Nothing happens without these.

  4. Ethiopia needs her and her extended family; to make famine great again, or make a great famine again.

    Nothing shows socialism at work like mass starvation.

  5. Straight to the Marquis de Condorcet then, anyone?

    Or nah?

    Yeah, figures.

  6. “However, it is not the machine that fixes your plumbing or adds that circuit for the Tesla, or repairs the leak roof.” Not yet anyway.

    “Optimus, download roof repair knowledge and fix the leak. Consult Roof-Leaks-R-Us.”

    I read recently, one plumbing instructor doesn’t teach plumbing. He teaches how to use AI to do plumbing.

  7. I don’t think the impulse to elect young radicals is in principle any different from the impulse that resulted in Trump. Lots of people feel like the politicians in place of either party do not represent them well and have been coopted by various sinister forces. They happen to be correct. The people voting for DSA candidates don’t agree with us about the nature of the solution, of course, but they are correct about the problem: their politicians say one thing to them and then do another, not the thing wanted.

  8. Selfy:

    So far I haven’t been able to locate information about her religion. Ethiopia has a large number of both Christians and Muslims. My guess is that she’s not especially religions either way, but I really don’t know.

  9. As I was vacuuming the kitchen floor, I had a thought. Should we feel sorry for Jeffries since the Squad just got bigger, bolder, and further Left? Just wait until 2028. Even the Dems in the Senate will be further Left than today. Chuck may be gone then too.

  10. Selfi, Kiros is a Greek name, I believe her family were from the Greek diaspora who settled in Ethiopia. If so her religious roots would be Christian – Greek Orthodox. However to be a communist (Democratic Socialist) in good standing she is, no doubt, now an atheist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Greeks

  11. Fasten your seatbelts, for this socialism stuff is surging. It is the consequence of indoctrination by education for 60-70 years. The ratio of Dems vs Repubs in academia is over 10:1.

  12. Xylourgos:

    Yes, it sounded to me like a Greek name, but I couldn’t find any information about that in terms of her family, either.

  13. I think the explanation is found pretty readily in two juxtaposed headlines in today’s WSJ–which I know is too mainstream for most people here. One headline covers the socialist primary victory in Colorado, the other reports that Trump has made $1 billion this year in crypto and real estate deals, plus the airplane from Qatar.

    Neo’s brand of capitalism is pure corruption and cronyism. It isn’t surprising that people prefer socialism to what neo is selling, and when I look at the history of Latin America, I’m not sure they’re wrong.

  14. Willard, bless he’s heart, doesn’t acknowledge the history of socialism (including the National Socialists) and communists over the last 100 years. Pure as driven gulag snow and utterly incorruptible were his socialist/communist masters (sarc).

    If Stalin, Mao, Adolph, Fidel, or Hugo only knew of the injustice! They knew, Willard.

    You want everyone else up against that wall, Willard. It’s your wall too.

    Reading the WSJ is a ticket to the reeducation camp Willard.

    You can’t fix stupid.

  15. The Communists tried to take over Greece after WWII (WW2, not WW eleven, Ilhan). Did the red Greeks flee after that failed? IDK.

  16. I believe the airplane from Qatar belongs to the government, not Trump personally.

    Family making money is not corruption unless there is evidence that Trump has issued executive orders or taken other official actions in exchange for business gains.

  17. “Kiros” does suggest a nominally Christian background rather than Muslim.

  18. I wonder if Willard was as upset about the NSAID money debacle exposed by Doge as much as Trump personally earning money. I know which one upsets me more, and more importantly, actually impacts me as a citizen/individual.

  19. I have to laugh at people like Willard who get very upset because someone like Trump makes some large scale money probably legitimately (i.e. real estate & crypto), but doesn’t have any problem with someone like Joe Biden who made his entire career by selling the levers of our government’s power to corporations like MBNA and others.

    MBNA hired Hunter Biden (then 26 years old and a recent law school graduate) during the years when his father, then-Senator Joe Biden, was pushing for bankruptcy reform legislation supported by the company, which became law and makes it more difficult to acquire bankruptcy protection.[16] Because of the close relationship between Biden and MBNA, Byron York called Biden the “Senator from MBNA” in a 1998 article for conservative magazine The American Spectator.[17][18][19]

    Yup. The Senator from MBNA.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBNA

  20. Shirehome: I’m sorry to keep harping on this, but CO is losing population, not “loosing”. Once again, that this error is so commonplace and usually by intelligent people who spell everything else correctly is something I find rather bizarre.

  21. Marisa,

    I find, especially when responding on my phone, the damn autocorrect is responsible for much poor spelling.

  22. Why would autocorrect change “losing”, which is a perfectly legitimate word, to “loosing”? Very odd.

    Autocorrect is evil. I have my phone set to give suggestions but not to autocorrect.

  23. Autocorrect is like your cat that helps by rearranging the papers on your desk or table as you are working on them.

    “Kitty helps!”

  24. Well, in this case the voters are fleeing to freedom so loosing as in being unchained does apply sort of.

  25. Sorry to have offended you, Marisa – NOT.
    So I can’t spell? I don’t really care.

  26. This push toward a much more radical socialism is partly “the consequence of indoctrination by education for 60-70 years.” Cicero

    The increasing secularization of Western societies with its concurrent decline in religious belief is the other major factor.
    No creator, no objective truth, leaves only the subjective ‘truth’ of the individual’s “lived experience” and the easily sold moral obligation to leave the world ‘a better place’.

  27. I will post corrections to typos on the main post, because Neo is so careful and will correct it. It’s rather pointless to bother about it with commenters unless the meaning is unclear, in which case asking for clarification is reasonable. If I understood the comment, why bother proofreading?

  28. Well the French intellectuals have a lot of 20th century third word blood on their hands, from the education of Chinese communists (Chou Enlai, Deng, Xi, but not Mao, he couldn’t get the language), Pol Pot, the first Ayotolla of Iran.

    And then all the postmodernist bilge inflicted on the first world. Quite the legacy.

  29. I read or listen to these young Socialist bucks and buckees and I wonder, how did they get there?
    I went to High School in the 70’s, College in the 80’s and I don’t remember any of my peers saying “Socialism would be a great solution”. I guess it sounds good on paper.

  30. Kate: If you believe that, you’ll believe anything.

    TommyJay: I thought Joe Biden and Hunter were repulsive. That’s one of the reasons I voted for Trump. But cronyism and corruption are not the way to build a durable conservative movement.

  31. Neo, Xylourgos, and Kate – thanks for your replies.

    Willard – thanks for the laugh!

  32. Willard,

    If you’re going to attack Kate, at least reference the comment that she made. I doubt it’s the spelling comment. What a maroon, to quote Bugs Bunny.

  33. I appreciate the defense. 🙂 Willard believes Trump, personally, owns the Qatari plane; he is therefore not in a position to criticize other people on facts. There are people on the left and the right who are looking closely at whether the Trump sons have needed Dad’s actions to make their business deals happen, but so far there is no evidence of corruption. Some people, apparently including Willard, think that making money on business deals is inherently corrupt.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

HTML tags allowed in your comment: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <s> <strike> <strong>

Web Analytics