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  1. I know this when I walk down the street: my freedom cannot mean hitting you, insulting you or trashing the public space we all share.”

    Yeah, I saw this statement not long after Macron spoke it. Wow. OK, I get it (he said sarcastically). Whether it is a physical assault or a verbal assault, let’s treat them all the same. The teensy weensy little problem is that the first one is unambiguous and frequently causes severe consequences, whereas the second is can be quite ambiguous and rarely causes major consequences. And what the hell is “trashing the public space”? How much room for interpretation is contained in that?

    It reminds me of some pundit’s analysis of Bill Clinton’s rhetoric style. He would begin with some simple and obvious truth, then move to a second statement that was related to the first and sounded somewhat similar. Except, it wasn’t that similar. Then Clinton would say or imply that we know all of these things are true, which they weren’t. Macron’s mistake was to utter both things in the same sentence. Clinton’s worked better because he camouflaged it with three or more sentences.
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    …a three-judge panel (not a jury; this reflects the fact that the French have far less trust in the decisions of its ordinary citizen than the US does)

    I took a stab at de Tocqueville’s Democracy in America long ago, and didn’t get very far. If I understand his motive for the book correctly, he was interested in the contrast between a country like France which was led by aristocrats such as himself, and America where ideas about equality and democratic selection permeated throughout our society.

    He was in fact one of the key directors in how France’s prison system was organized and functioned. Could ordinary commoners be trusted in such an important government function, he mused?

    I believe he had a fairly open mind about this question, and was impressed by many of the contrasts he saw in America, but I’m not sure he gave up on his faith in the aristocracy.
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    I like true crime documentary shows, and one I watched was European. At first I thought it was all in France, but later realized it was all French speaking, covering Belgium and Switzerland too.

    Their violent crime and homicide investigations in Franc are rather messed up IMO. As soon as an actual homicide detective is assigned to a case, a judge (desk jockey) is also assigned, and the judge micro-manages everything thing the actual investigator does. The judge does stay on his or her toes and is in very frequent contact, but all the obvious problems with this arrangement do seem to occur.

  2. Extending Professor Turley’s excerpt, he concluded with this:

    . Macron believes that he should be able to dictate which views are “corrosive” to the spirit of democracy.

    The claim that more speech means less speech is an oxymoronic talking point of the anti-free speech movement. As I discussed in my book, there has not been a single censorship system in history that has worked to kill a single idea or movement. Instead, it has given more power to politicians like Macron to silence critics and intimidate opponents.

    In the end, the only true solution to bad speech is better speech. The public can sort out their own values and weigh opposing views without the strict guidance of the government. Free speech serves as its own disinfectant.

    Ultimately, allowing people not just free inquiry but free expression bends the arch of humanity toward truth. Hate and prejudice are inherently flawed values that tend to collapse when exposed to full, robust debate.

    That does not mean that it will eliminate racism, sexism, or other forms of hate. Neither censorship nor free speech can make everyone better people. However, what Macron is peddling is the same tired, dishonest claim that free speech is harmful and the government must control what people see and say in public discourse.

    This is a nation that still echoes the cry of Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity (“liberté, égalité, fraternité”). However, in today’s France, “liberté” remains a declining value. Individual rights of religion and speech are routinely sacrificed in the name of “equity” and “fraternity.”

    And so the French have neither liberty, equity, nor fraternity, and no security or safety either.

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    “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” is a quote and motto attributed to Benjamin Franklin (and he actually did print or say it at least three times).
    https://quotesfromthepast.com/benjamin-franklin-on-sacrificing-freedom-for-security/

  3. Not to worry, once the muzzies take over, we won’t be hearing about “free speech” any longer. The sound of the muezzin proclaiming the adhan over huge loudspeakers in every French city, town, village and hamlet five times daily will be the only sound heard in all the land where people once cried, “Liberty, Fraternity, Equality.”

  4. Once there are any restrictions of free speech, it opens the door for the politically powerful to determine what constitutes acceptable speech.

    It is no coincidence that the most repressive regimes in history – Stalin, Mao, Hitler, et.al., forbade free speech.

    The danger of free speech – especially in a constitutional republic – is the willful ignorance of the voting populace (or at least, enough of them). Their ignorance allows them to be easily manipulated via propaganda and to vote into office those seeking to destroy our form of government.

    Of course, it does not help that the demoncrat party supports voting rights for non-US citizens as well as wide open borders. If this does not convince you that democracts hate our constitutional republic , I don’t know what does.

    Unfortunately, when it comes to politics in general and getting out their message, the Republicans are inept, incompetent.

  5. What one can say of the French (and the Austrians) is that there is among the public more resistance there to the elite’s population replacement project than there is anywhere else in Europe outside the former East Bloc.
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  6. Macron’s (and others’) version of “free speech”?

    (If trends continue—and if the Democrats return to power) coming soon to a neighborhood near you…

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