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Open thread 7/27/2026 — 29 Comments

  1. “Christopher Nolan Says Ending of Homer’s ‘Odyssey’ Is Too ‘Misogynistic’ to Adapt Faithfully”

    Hollywood can’t die fast enough.

  2. Heh, is it possible that Nolan doesn’t seem to even understand the story…?

    (Though to be fair, Harold Bloom famously insisted that “misprision”—i.e., misunderstanding**, in his case literature—can lead to some pretty interesting, even illuminating, results….)

    ** “Misunderstanding” can also mean “responding”—in a kind of Freudian sense—to others (to one’s elders or models, antecedents or heroes) that one hasn’t truly or fully understood…such that it seems that one can make a significant impact—and even lots of money(!?)—on such “misunderstandings”…
    which raises the question: is it possible to “truly or fully” understand ANYTHING?

  3. Shrug, Homer’s poems have been popular for 3,000 years. Nolan will be soon forgotten.

    Dare I say that Nolan might want to consider Homer’s discussion of hubris in his poetry.

  4. I can’t hear what Nolan said because of the soundtrack ……

    It was a problem with “Interstellar” too.

    Or was it the roar of Hollywood burning money?

  5. I’ve seen three Nolan movies: Inception, Interstellar, and Dunkirk. Aside from nice visuals, I remember nothing about them. His stories and characters have no heft. Pretty much the definition of style over substance.

  6. Berlin pride terror attack

    I hope it was the cows and not the wolves that did this.

    Some people are getting shut out when it comes to GLP-1 drugs. Here’s why.

    Massachusetts and other states have cut Medicaid coverage for GLP-1 weight-loss drugs, affecting low-income patients who can’t afford them. This decision highlights disparities in obesity treatment access, as wealthier individuals can still afford the drugs.

    Hey, Medicaid & Part B doesn’t cover my Medical Marijuana either. I also have a Tadalafil 5mg Tablets prescription (pee trips cut from 3-5 trips a night down to 1 – or occasionally 2 trips) that neither pays for – thank goodness for GoodRx @ Walgreens!!!

    Cheaper, open and intelligent: Chinese AI models gain ground, as they make inroads in the US

    Still don’t understand why so many GOPers support Russia & China!?!

  7. I’ve seen six of them (Oppenheimer, Interstellar, Inception, Tenet, Dunkirk, Insomnia) (not counting the Batman/Superman ones, which I can’t remember since I might have seen parts of on broadcast). The only reason I watched Tenet is because it was pretty much the only major that came out during Covid.
    They all had serious issues with sound/mixing, not just indecipherable dialog but overall poor management. Too loud in places, jarring, unpleasant. Basically a soundtrack that detracted from the film instead of adding to it.

    And then there’s the stories. He had two gold-plated ones: Dunkirk and Oppenheimer. He had the opportunity with those to create true classics, and he had great performers at hand. But instead he just threw the opportunity away and created long mish-mashes that were the equivalent of crapping all over them. And it seems like that’s exactly what he’s done here, with the addition of the DEI Oscar bait smorgasbord.

    I will say the scene toward the end of Dunkirk with Tom Hardy running out of gas was very well done, worth owning the disk and just fast-forwarding to it.

  8. Although I have not seen it, nor do I plan to do so, from the snippets posted on You Tube and the reviews from Nerdrotic, The Drinker and other independent reviewers, Nolan’s Odyssey appears to be the MCU or DCU version of the Greek epic poem, being a “superhero” movie with good CGU effects, a lot of woke sentiments but utterly unrelated to anything Homer might have written.

  9. As long as we’re again discussing Nolan’s The Odyssey :
    Previously I had written that I would not see it in a theater in view of neo’s informing us that there were reports (accurate reports) that the background audio obscured the dialog.

    Well, I actually did go to see The Odyssey. It is being exhibed in 70mm at the local single-screen movie theater 4 blocks from my home.

    1. It is hard to make the entirety of Homer’s The Odyssey interesting in a motion picture. While some parts of the movie were interesting, overall the movie just plain dragged. Some of the casting is off-putting, but it not so off-putting that the casting takes away from the movie watching experience.

    2. About the dialogue–I’m pretty damn sure there is something wrong with the dialog track even if there were no background music. Dialog throughout sounded fuzzy. The problem is not my hearing. All the dialogue in the coming attractions was clear.

    3. On the other hand, the background music and other background audio was overly loud – by a great deal. And the bass frequencies of all the audido, even dialog, were particularly boosted. All in all, The Odyssey is a 2 hour 50 minute aural barrage. I advise people of all ages to avoid the movie because of the real risk of hearing damage.

    4. I rate this movie a 4 on a scale of 0-10.

    5. I read full English translations of Homer’s The Illiad and The Odyssey in high school. That was a much more interesting experience than watching this movie.

  10. Fascinating. I always wondered what inspired Walt Disney to create the Disney theme parks. As a non-NYer I didn’t realize Coney Island was much more than a boardwalk, ferris wheel, sideshows and hotdog stands.This must have had something to do with what he was trying to build on the west coast. The Trump McCain wrinkle at the end was totally unexpected…

  11. Saw “The Odyssey” over the weekend. I disliked it intensely, and for all the reasons others who disliked it have cited. And more, much more.

    For example: Would it have been too much to ask for Nolan to portray the Achaeans (and Trojans too, for that matter) as Homer did? In the film Homer’s “flowing haired Achaeans” had shaved heads or close-cropped hair. The famously red-haired Menelaus, king of Sparta, had a shaved head and the personality/demeanor of a thug. Note that, as conceived by Homer, he was a gracious host to Telemachus: amiable and good-humored and altogether welcoming to the hero’s son. As was Helen — who, as portrayed, egregiously and jarringly, by Lupita Nyong’o, was angry and bitter: as an angry black woman of a type all too familiar to modern audiences. (Note that, in the poem Homer was at pains to depict them as a happy couple who had put the trauma of the Trojan war – and Helen’s betrayal – behind them.)

    While on the subject of Ms. Nyong’o, it needs be said that the race-swapping in the movie—and there was a lot it — was worse than being merely distracting — it was downright silly. Also offensive. I mean, what the hell. Here I’m thinking especially of the black guy who played the bard, sounding as if he were fresh out of the hood, was an absurdity.

    The acting was largely indifferent. Matt Damon was as wooden as a cigar-store Indian, suffering from a severe charisma deficit, completely lacking the subtle wit, charm, and sense of imminent danger, as well as the “fierce valor”, of Homer’s Odysseus. Tom Holland as Telemachus and Robert Pattinson as Antinuous were bland and twee. The character of the nymph Calypso, as portrayed by Charlize Theron, was a nullity whose presence and actions – or, more precisely, lack thereof — did nothing for plot development and movement.

    And Eliot page as an Achaean warrior? As Tony Soprano might say: “Fuhgeddaboudit!”

    The movie’s pacing was plodding, making for a tediously uninspiring viewing experience. A case of “first this happened, then this happened” . . . and so on. Wash, rinse, repeat.

    Overall, Nolan completely misunderstood and misinterpreted Homer’s epic. His movie was utterly bereft of the sense of mystery, the excitement and terror, the thematic complexity and moral profundity, the kinetic excitement of Homer’s epic. Most grievously, in some respects, It had none of Homer’s sly humor. And, yes, there was lot of humor in Homer’s poem, one only needs to read or listen to recitations thereof with the sensibilities of the ancient audience for which it was intended to experience it. Doing so takes some, but not a lot, of effort. Clearly Noland didn’t even try.

    It’s not as if Nolan didn’t have examples of how to make a movie in the epic genre. Here I’m thinking especially of “The Northman,” a supremely excellent cinematic rendering of Viking mythopoeia. And, also, of course, Peter Jackson’s LOTR trilogy.

    Do yourself a favor and skip this movie, and watch instead the 1954 movie “Ulysses” with Kirk Douglas in the titular role or the 1997 TV minie series “The Odyssey” starring Armand Assante.

    Better still, read the poem. There are several good translations from the Greek; I recommend Lattimore’s.

    And there you have it.

  12. Supplemental comment re “The Odyssey”:

    Best and most affecting performance in the movie was turned in by the dog named Sawyer (according to the credits), who played the faithful Argus. Brought a tear to my eyes.

    The ending of the movie was mind-bendingly cringe-worthy. Sailing off into the sunset to live happily ever after? Give me a break.

    The other complaints I vented in my preceding post are not insignificant. They may, however, seem so — but only, it seems to me, to someone bringing a 21st century sensibility and perspective to the story.

    Which is what Nolan did. And therein lies the problem. Or, rather, many problems. BIG problems.

    I will speak no more of this cinematic abomination.

  13. Evil Bryan Kohberger says he wants to REVOKE his guilty plea a year after he admitted murdering four Idaho students after claiming that new evidence exonerates him:

    Idaho college killer Bryan Kohberger has petitioned to revoke his guilty plea and is demanding to stand trial after he previously admitted to slaughtering four students.

    Kohberger, who is currently serving four life sentences, revealed his decision to file the petition in an interview with the New York Times and claimed he had an ‘absolute claim of innocence.’

    ‘My actual innocence is my truth, and the plea, hinged on by false promises and blatant disinformation, MUST be withdrawn,’ he told the newspaper.

    Poor’ feller…he’s whining after just one year already, and he’s basically got life w/o parole with those 4 life sentences. Should’ve went for the death penalty…

  14. Ira:

    I’m glad I’m not the only person who had problems with the audio. I missed some words and it bothered me. Same problem with Oppenheimer.

    I read that the Imax cameras are noisy and that might be part of the problem. But who knows?

    And I also thought some of the cuts were too quick.

  15. Google AI Mode:

    1. The “Lawnmower” Effect on Set
    Traditional IMAX film cameras do not use digital sensors. Instead, they physically pull huge strips of 65mm film horizontally through a vacuum mechanism at high speeds. Film professionals describe the resulting noise on set as sounding like an active lawnmower running right next to the actors’ faces. This aggressive mechanical roar heavily bleeds into the microphones recording the live dialogue …snip… However, directors like Christopher Nolan (who famously shot Oppenheimer, Tenet, and Interstellar on IMAX film) strictly refuse to use ADR. Nolan defends this as an artistic choice, stating he prefers the raw, authentic emotional performance given by the actor on set over a sterile studio recording. As a result, sound engineers must use software to heavily filter out the mechanical camera noise from the original audio tracks, which can leave the remaining voices sounding muffled, thin, or buried.

    True?

  16. Off topic, since I don’t do movies, is this snippet from today’s WSJ about socialism in Britain, headlined The Welfare State That Ate Britain:
    “Spending on welfare for children and working-age adults claiming a disability in the last fiscal year was £66 billion, up from £44 billion in fiscal 2019-2020. Blame an explosion in doubtful claims for mental-health conditions such as depression and ADHD. This has become an enormous economic and social drag as millions of people abandon the workforce and become wards of the state.

    “These numbers don’t include the fiscal burden that the National Health Service imposes. Treasury says British spending on health hit £257.5 billion last year. Think of this British version of Medicare for All as a black hole for money and the nation’s health, as six million patients languish on waiting lists and the system delivers terrible cancer survival rates and other outcomes relative to European peers with more market-oriented systems.

    “In total, spending on social-protection and health consumed some 21% of GDP last fiscal year. That’s a problem as the U.K. tries to scrape together the money to meet the new NATO national-security spending benchmark of 5% of GDP by 2035. The Treasury report says Britain spent £65.4 billion on defense in fiscal 2025-2026—or a paltry 2.31% of GDP, according to NATO.”

    This is what Ugandan Mamdani and his Democratic Socialists want to impose on us all.

  17. Nolan must just be plain stupid then. The vast, vast majority of viewing will not be on an IMAX screen.

  18. IMAX was first displayed at Montreal’s Expo ’67. I remember watching a film at Expo ’74, flying through Grand Canyon. It was pretty impressive.
    IMAX wasn’t originally intended for feature films.

    At Expo ’74 in Spokane, the big attraction inside the U.S. Pavilion was an enormous early IMAX screen (roughly 90 × 65 feet, one of the largest movie screens in the world at the time). The film shown was Man Belongs to the Earth (narrated by Chief Dan George).
    It included a sequence shot from a plane flying through the Grand Canyon. The image was so large and sharp that many people felt like they were actually in the aircraft — some reported the sensation of falling or flying so strongly that motion-sickness bags were made available. Contemporary accounts describe it as dizzying and intensely immersive.
    That Grand Canyon flight sequence is almost certainly the “first-person plane ride” you’re remembering. The sheer scale of the screen and the way the camera was mounted made the motion feel physical, which is why people instinctively wanted something to hold onto for balance.
    So your memory lines up: Spokane Expo 1974, the giant IMAX in the U.S. Pavilion, and that unforgettable flying-through-the-canyon sequence.

    Earlier IMAX films (starting with Tiger Child in 1970) were almost all short documentaries or Expo presentations.
    Fantasia 2000 (2000) was the first major theatrical feature presented in IMAX theaters, but it was not originally shot for the format.
    Mainstream Hollywood features with sequences shot on IMAX cameras began later with The Dark Knight (2008).

  19. Good grief karmi have no shame coming back here

    Its a terrible film all around they even screwed up the cyclops

    Troy looks like a masterpiece in comparison

  20. I have about 60 years of Nat Geo magazines. This year to amuse myself, I have been putting the relevant month issues for 1971, 1976, 1981, 1986, 1991 and 1996 in the “reading room”. August 1986 just happens to have “The Quest for Ulysses” as one of the articles.

  21. What I take from the video is that the city ruined Coney Island, both by regulation (zoning that prevented Fred Trump from building luxury high-rises) and by instead putting up housing projects, courtesy Robert Moses. I’ve often wondered why all that beachfront is now so squalid, but I had little knowledge of the history and the fires.

  22. @ Miguel cervantes – sorry you feel that way…anyway, I never left—you just couldn’t read my comments or see humble me…

  23. Nolan must just be plain stupid then. The vast, vast majority of viewing will not be on an IMAX screen.

    Chases Eagles:

    Dude, Nolan is a genius. He is playing a deeper game. 🙂

    Nolan has turned The Odyssey into an event movie, not just something which people wait for on streaming.

    The second weekend box office was more than good enough to put it to $652 mil global, likely to break $1 bil overall.

    On a $625-$750 mil breakeven, The Odyssey will make money, though perhaps not as much Nolan hoped.

  24. Seems like forest management is a “lost science” all around the world.
    Evidence: Spain, Canada, France, … California, … et al.
    Such a sad government failure! And one which has punished so many innocent people by burning down homes & businesses.
    Appalling, truly.

  25. Marlene on July 28, 2026 at 4:26 am said:
    “Seems like forest management is a “lost science” all around the world.”

    Some years ago I came across a comment about some US forest managers visiting Germany several decades ago to compare notes, etc. At that time the Germans were very fastidious about manicuring their forests into basically park like settings, etc. The US was much more into “environmental purity” and “leave nature alone”; at least for its more wild areas of the national forests and national parks. Apparently the Germans decided to follow the US policy more closely. Perhaps that is the source of the reduced or absent “forest fire management” in Europe?

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