Rudy Giuliani is very ill with pneumonia
Giuliani is hospitalized with pneumonia and was in critical condition, but seems to be on the mend. That latter point will no doubt sadden millions of ghoulish leftists who would wish him dead:
He was now breathing on his own, with his family and primary medical provider at his side, the spokesman said.
The illness is tied to a condition stemming from Giuliani’s experience as mayor during the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, Goodman added.
“On September 11th, Mayor Giuliani ran toward the towers to help those in need, which led to a restrictive airway disease diagnosis,” the spokesman said.
“This disease adds complications to any emerging respiratory issue, and the [pneumonia] virus quickly overwhelmed his body, requiring mechanical ventilation to maintain his blood pressure.”
The years since 2020 have been rough for the ex-mayor. His assertions about fraud in the 2020 elections, and a number of statements he made about election workers in Georgia, landed him in legal and financial trouble and also got him disbarred:
He has pleaded not guilty to state criminal charges against him related to the election subversion [editorializing; CNN] scheme in Arizona. Prosecutors dropped a similiar [spelling; CNN] case against Giuliani and others in Georgia last year. The two former Georgia election workers, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, also obtained a $148 million defamation judgment against him for false allegations he made about them after the 2020 election.
He was disbarred in July 2024 in New York over his efforts to challenge the 2020 election results.
I doubt that what’s been happening politically in New York City right now has added to Giuliani’s well-being.
Trump weighed in:
President Donald Trump posted on Truth Social that Giuliani is a “True Warrior and the Best Mayor in the History of New York City.”
“What a tragedy that he was treated so badly by the Radical Left Lunatics, Democrats ALL — AND HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING! They cheated on the Elections, fabricated hundreds of stories, did anything possible to destroy our Nation, and now, look at Rudy. So sad!” Trump said in a post Sunday.
Right about everything? No. But right about a lot of important things over the years I wish him well.
Interesting that, like so many police and fire personnel, Giuliani has a lung condition from being around the 9-11 debris. His performance during that trying time will always be to his credit. I hope he recovers well.
I also hope he recovers, but I find it hard to believe his best years are not well behind him. And while some of that is due to his own follies, for the most part it is not. I hated Mamdami and the Cuomos and Hochul before, but this makes it moreso.
Whatever else you think of Guliani, he is more than a living American legend. He is a hero. Whether it was crippling the Five Families and helping clean up New York or being there during 9/11 or fighting against the fraud and steal of 2020. He did not deserve what has been done to him or his city. 9/11 remains the defining moment of my life and that of many others and he was there doing what many could not, and that should not be outshone by partisan smear jobs or his own significant failings.
And while intellectually I know that the enemy is having trouble – especially with the Avalanche of Apostasy – emotionally it is a bit much. That in less than a generation NYC – the Big Apple- went from the city of Trump and Giuliani to the city of Mamdami, the man who openly rapped his love for the Holy Land Foundation that tried to blow up much of New York. And if there were justice emerging among man Rudy would live long enough to return to his post over his city or at least to see the foreign jihadi goon get prosecuted.
But does justice emerge among man?
Yeah rudy is a great man unworthy of the city that he sought to save, was he perfect of course not
But they threw so much carp on him in the last 20 years since the last time he ran for president
This kind of plague on his hometown must agrieve the heart
Pneumonia was once termed “the aged pensioner’s friend” because it ended life without much struggle.
Former mayor Eric Adams had nice words for Rudy:
https://www.facebook.com/100063745855453/posts/1532756062192574/?app=fbl
“Rudy the Rock.” That’s what French president Jacque Chirac called him in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.
He’ll always be “Rudy the Rock” to me.
One of the things I’ll always remember is the number of 9/11 funerals he attended. I was the captain of an FDNY company that lost 11 men that day. There were 2 or 3 funerals everyday throughout NYC. Rudy was great. He attended most of them. His people contacted me about the biographies of my men. Sincere in his grief. He really did turn the city around.
He was good for a a time.
In the end prostituted himself to take money from the MEK. Disgusting.
@ Gothamite – thanks for posting the tribute from Mayor Adams.
I was very disappointed that he wasn’t able to continue with the reforms of NYC that were part of his election platform.
FWIW, I think there were a lot of powerful people who did not want those reforms to happen.
@ Davemay – and thank you for your tribute to Rudy. That he was so connected to the other heroes of 9/11 is not a surprise, although I don’t remember reading about him attending their funerals. I suspect that didn’t make it into the news outside of the City.
@ miguel > “This kind of plague on his hometown must agrieve the heart”
Nicely phrased.
@Cyrus
Perhaps it is disgusting, but it is still vastly less disgusting than what every single person to hold the office of Mayor of NYC has done since. And as far as MEK goes, it has given me little reason to love it, but all told it is still less despicable than a host of groups we have given support to and I’d much rather the Iranian terror group give money to a US pol than the other way around. Especially since even at their worst MEK were a Marxist terror org wanting to instal a kind of NatBol Iranian “Proletarian Dictatorship” in Iran. The current management of the Iranian goverment wants to end the world as it exists through apocalyptic strife – preferably nuclear – to bring about the rise of the Mahdi, and which probably is responsible for the deaths of more Iranians and Americans every year than MEK has in its entire history.
Also a little bit of context since we now know beyond any possible doubt that Iran’s dictatorship played a significant role in helping AQ carry out the 9/11 attacks that caused Rudy such enduring health issues and so many funeral appearances. So I imagine that would push the envelope a bit.
In any case, sometimes the enemy of my enemy is my friend or at least our SOB.
Fox news has an update on his condition:
update on Giulianis’ condition
I not only remember his fantastic leadership on 9-11; but, even before that he did so much to clean up the city. I was in disbelief when I was in the city on Halloween and the stores along there were handing out candy/treats to kids for trick or treating. How could anyone believe the turn around from sleazy-never-to-be-walked-through area to family friendly tourist spot? I was there because a friend from out of town wanted to go and I said no, it wasn’t safe. My friend convinced me otherwise.
I hope he recovers well!
Turtler something tells me that should you suddenly develop an insatiable urge to bomb Chyna tomorrow, you’d be saying:
“Also a little bit of context since we now know beyond any possible doubt that China’s dictatorship played a significant role in helping AQ carry out the 9/11 attacks…”
Perhaps you could produce a wall of text proving either this, that, or the other?
Those Iranian Shias being such good friends of Wahabbi fanatics, you know. Maybe you could throw the Hui, the Nestorian Stele of Xi’an and the Jews of Kaifeng while you’re at it.
Where *do* you get off?
@Cyrus
Something tells me you have absolutely nothing to rebut this point of Fact with, which is why you have to corncob and obfuscate with this drivel that does nothing to address this FACT.
Are you in any way aware of what the Abbottabad documents say about the frenemy relationship between Al Qaeda and Iran and how this dovetailed into 9/11, as detailed in material seized from OBL’a compound in the eponymous locale when he was killed? If not, the. You are not qualified to speak on this matter.
If you have, that raises the question of why the devil you are not addressing these points of Fact and how and why they might push the Mayor of New York City at the time of 9/11 and who had to go through the fires of the aftermath might come to view MEK as the lesser evil for entirely justified reasons.
And if you are not for some reason aware; here is some of the baseline source material:
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/features/1532-bin-laden-bookshelf-features
And a convenient tool for searching:
https://pt.icct.nl/sites/default/files/2023-03/PT%20Vol%20XVII%2C%20I%20March%202023%20RN3%20ep_2.pdf
Some brief summaries of the matter:
https://2017-2021.state.gov/the-iran-al-qaida-axis/
https://ctc.westpoint.edu/marriage-of-convenience-the-evolution-of-iran-and-al-qaidas-tactical-cooperation/
And a particular choice excerpt from the archives:
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ubl2016/english/Letter%20to%20Karim.pdf
Note that while Osama never entirely rules out the possibility of strikes on Iran or forbids them altogether, he DOES clearly say he sees no need to fight them at the moment, that any hostage taking is to be done with great care in the lead up to negotiations, and that any attacks should be done unannounced. This is because, as OBL says:
There is more I can dig up and may yet do so if I feel inclined to bury your particular flavor of nonsense even deeper. But one example from the pen of OBL himself should be illustrative.
However, suffice it to say that I do not for a second think that as awful, evil, and thoroughly hostile as the Peoples’ Republic of Chyna is, that it had anything like the knowing, proximate, and with malice aforethought involvement in 9/11 that the Islamic Republic of Iran did, and frankly had the PRC been guilty of such involvement it would be a direct cause of me wishing to bomb it, and mentioning of such evidence would be more than justified as context, wall of text or no.
And while some would point out that the Iranian Regime and Al Qaeda were hardly bosom buddies given their great suspicion and mutual hatred of each others existence and that they were – to quote a certain headline – “More enemies than Allies”, that does nothing to change the fact that they were as willing to conspire together to kill us as they were to kill each other, and it does nothing to alleviate the Mullahcracy’s guilt. Which is why the verdict finding Iran had partial responsibility for 9/11 was found in a court of law under Obama’s Presidency, and while Obama rejected enforcement of that judgment it has never been overturned.
https://www.investigativeproject.org/3356/court-finds-iran-aided-9-11-attacks
Ask and ye shall receive, This time.
But continue to waste my time and fail to use the resources at your disposal and I will start becoming significantly less accommodating and significantly more inclined to conclude you are a troll. Consider this a friendly warning.
You mean like said Wahhabi fanatics during the midpoint of the Iraq War found succor in the territory of bot Shiite Iran and the “secular” Alawite Baathist dominated Iranian ally of Syria? Yes. Though “friends” had remarkably little to do with any of it, as shown by things like Iranian spec ops attacking Taliban held territory in Afghanistan in 2001 and how the same Al Qaeda in Iraq that was getting more funding and support from the Iran-Syria “Axis of Resistance” than it was from its own mother organization chafed when Iran arrested several AQ envoys – including relatives of OBL- in 2003-6 and ultimately turned in their former Shiite and Alawite “friends” in the Arab Spring, becoming the core of ISIS.
Alliances founded on mutual hatred and convenience are fragile and fickle things, but they can be no less potent or important for all that. Osama did not detail a relationship of love or trust with Iran. He did detail a relationship of convenience and mutual opportunism in jihad against the US in the lead up to 9/11 and many times before and after it, which was selectively betrayed by both sides at various times.
Midwit fools and liars like ignoring this fact and several others, acting as if the sectarian, ideological, or ethnic divides between the mostly Arab Sunni Wahhabis in AQ and the mixed Shiite and Alawite Persian dominated “Resistance Bloc” were insurmountable before wagging fingers at those of us with a better grasp of history and the evidence before laughing at why we could believe such a thing.
Without ever addressing the primary source documents or basic facts like how the Sudanese Madhists briefly made common cause with Christian Ethiopia before betraying and invading it or why Catholic France hosted an Pittman fleet at Marseilles and funded Protestants fighting the Habsburgs. And both probably featured far greater ideological and theological distance than the Sunni Wahhabi AQ has from the Shiite Twelvers in control of Iran. Not that I expect you to know that.
I can happily discuss all of those things, but none of those matter an absolute fuck compared to Osama Bin Laden identifying Iran as their main thoroughfare for resources and reinforcements during the height of the Iraq War surge or the Iranians purposefully helping AQ leadership and other operatives – including may 9/11 hijackers – travel internationally undetected by refusing to detain or even document them unless it served the Mullahcracy’s interests to do so.
And for the record I spoke about the decline of the Churches or the East during the High Medieval period last month and the Kaifeng Jews last week. Test me at your peril.
With the history as documented, something you seem to show absolutely minimal understanding of.
If you are actually interested in discussing the matter of Iranian terrorist groups and history and their relevance to New York City and evaluations of Rudy Giuliani honestly and in good faith, then we can proceed with evidence.
Otherwise you are simply wasting the time and effort of anybody bothering to discuss the matter with you and seem to be doing nothing more than petty sniping at a man who deserves far better than your drive bys.
@Cyrus
Since I noticed that the aforementioned excerpt from the letter from Osama Bin Laden to “Brother Karim” in 2007 regarding the issues of diplomacy, threats, and aid to and from Iran was mangled due to the crudeness of copy/pasting from phone, I will take the liberty of re-linking and re-formatting the relevant part.
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ubl2016/english/Letter%20to%20Karim.pdf
This I think gives a good summary of the nature of the “Friendship” between the Wahhabi Sunni Fanatics in Al Qaeda and the Shiite Twelver Fanatics of the Iranian Regime. Not much in the way of friendship and punctuated by mutual suspicion and loathing and thus prone to periodic threats and attacks that could be reined in by both sides when they saw each other as being of use to their wider cause. In particular Osama is chewing out “Brother Karim” for openly threatening Iran at a time when Iran is a crucial artery for the Al Qaeda war efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq, and is opposed to fighting them at all at the given time, but that if such a thing is to be done it should be done without prior announcement, with great devastation, and for the purposes of taking hostages for negotiation, and above all that Karim is not to make idle public threats without following through.
This largely gels with what we have from other sources, including the Southern District Court of NYC.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150413223620/http://information.iran911case.com/Havlish_Findings_of_Fact_and_Conclusions_of_Law_Signed_12-22-11.pdf
I particularly point you to the section starting on Page 15 and going on down from the subheader “Bridging of the the Sunni-Shia Divide”, which all but directly anticipates your “Hurr durr Dey Must be Such Great Friends!” and skins it alive, pointing out that these scumbags may not like each other but they can be practical and ruthless enough to overlook that when it suits their interests at a given time, and also talks about the mechanisms of how this actually played a role in 9/11.
But what would OSAMA BIN LADEN, supreme leader of Al Qaeda, know about his organization’s alternating cooperation and hostility with Iran??
I will accept your apology when it is offered, but tell you not to test my time or patience with trolling or dishonest sophistry. If you are unwilling to do the research on the relevant matters or educate yourself on basics such as how and why Sunni terrorists and Shiite terrorists might stop killing each other and plan to kill others, not only can I not help you but frankly you probably should refrain from commenting on the topic until that changes.
I have great interest in things like the rise and fall of Nestorian Christianity in China and the Hexi Corridor, in Hui culture, and in the history of Kaifeng, but there was absolutely zero reason to bring up any of them here like you did.
There was absolutely no valid or justifiable reason for you to do so, and you used them as a dishonest, poorly informed appeal to contempt and appeal to ignorance serving to conflate fascinating but irrelevant topics with the well documented, painfully ugly history of Al Qaeda and the Islamic Republic of Iran’s frenemy relationship, something that helped kill dozens of thousands of people including hundreds upon hundreds of Americans, and which was found as such in that bastion of anti-Shiite, anti-Muslim, right-wing bigotry the Southern District Court of New York City.
So in any case, you had things the opposite way around. Had “Chnya” been guilty of a fraction of the things Iran’s dictatorship is in regards to 9/11, that would create an entirely justifiable reason for me to want to bomb them. Fortunately, of all of the CCP’s many crimes I have no reason to believe those are ones of them.
Now are you going to address the evidence? Or are you going to be a troll?
“Those Iranian Shias being such good friends of Wahabbi fanatics, you know.”
Those Iranian Shias funded Hamas – a branch of the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood – for decades. You don’t know jackshit, troll Cyrus.
Not the Great, Cyrus.
Rudy the Rock Giuliani also broke the Westies, the last Irish gang in the U.S.
The mek through the ncri had been a valuable source on the iranian regime notably the fordow nuclear facility now the rajavis are problematic compared to the current irgc ruling councils
Back in 2017, the regime sent a bomber to attack an ncri conference in paris this was at the same time that john kerry was meeting with iranian officials
They have a tenuous relationship with the monarchist crew headed by pahlevi most recently in los angeles
The enemy of my enemy is not always a friend but sometimes there is a tactical understanding like zarquawi tramsiting to kurdistan on the way to the dulaimi heartland
After the fall of the taliban figures like seif al adel (who is currently operational chief for al queda)settled in iran, as prelude to the attack on the kingdom
He really came unarmed to this match didnt he