What until the kid starts screaming then ask the follow passengers if they think the Baby is cute.
OK OK, I am of the WC Fields persuasion.
We get so cynical that it’s refreshing to see innocence.
But, “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it is better for him if a heavy millstone is hung around his neck and he is thrown into the sea.”
Speaking of babies, the Democrats are going to double down on their campaign to kill them in the womb.
“Dec. 19 (UPI) — Vice President Kamala Harris will launch a tour of the United States in early 2024 to promote abortion rights as Democrats seek to knuckle down on a key issue leading up to the November election.”
My oldest used to do that…not on planes but nearly everywhere else.
She caused more than a few near catastrophes when people would continue to be engaged with her & walk into stationary objects in shopping centers or the grocery store.
So…I believe:
President Biden keeps defying and dismissing the impeachment trial against him.
[And so does his son, Hunter Biden, in his own ways.]
This reminds me of, the history of:
[The impeachment trial against President Richard Nixon.]
In fact- I think the impeachment trial against Biden is MUCH WORSE, because unlike Nixon’s impeachment, in Biden’s impeachment: most of America’s reporters ARE ON THE PRESIDENT’S SIDE.
The reporters aren’t doing their job, as the “watchdogs” for fairness and freedom.
They’re supposed to protect the US, and the US Government, from people who- try to attack the freedom, and the fairness, in our country.
Looking at this situation, logically, I know that some people can act this way.
Emotionally- I am very disappointed, and ashamed, that these reporters don’t support fairness, and they don’t support our nation,… when they promised to do those things for us, in their job as fair reporters.
well for a successful coup to work, you have to have the tacit cooperation of the media, sans twitter, most are in his pocket
Hi miquel cervantes,
unfortunately, I think you’re right.
I think there are many US reporters + US Democrats, who would like to do a coup, or a similar action, right now.
they did, thats what the last three years has been about, from kabul to kiev to kfer Azaa, Qatar and Turkeys fingerprints are all over that
I ran across this site, about a book linking the killings of JFK and his lover Mary Pinchot Meyer, and am planning to read it. https://www.marysmosaic.net/index.htm
I did read some of the disjointed excerpts of Bugliosi’s Reclaiming History available on the web, and was not impressed by its mixture of fictionalized narrative and mind-numbing details. But admittedly those readings do not constitute a fair appraisal of the whole work.
Jordan Rivers:
Get the Bugliosi book in another form and read a lot of it. As I said earlier, it’s not necessary to read every word, but at least the first 400 or 500 pages are necessary. The case is ironclad. There is no doubt. The conspiracy theories are garbage.
that book in particular, by the son of a former company man, is a waste of wood pulp or electrons,
@ David Foster > thanks for the link to Ruxandra Teslo’s substack on misinformation.
I did pause for a minute at an assertion that indicated she might not have as great a handle on what’s true information and what’s not as she otherwise seems to.
All that I have written before does not mean that I don’t believe there are patently false ideas (brute misinformation) whose spread leads to bad consequences in the real world. Two of them come to mind: the anti-vaccine and stolen election narratives.
Without rehashing years of discussion, let’s just say “reasonable people can differ” and if you think those are “patently false ideas” you maybe shouldn’t be giving other people advice on recognizing misinformation.
I do think the discussion at your Chicago Boyz post covered the vaccine question well, but no one addressed the election, and I would have valued that commentary.
“The first one has led to loss of lives and the second one is a real threat to the public’s confidence in democracy.”
The spread of TRUE ideas often leads to “bad consequences in the real world” (deaths and destruction of existing paradigms) as least as often as FALSE ones do, although possibly not for the same reasons.
What goes around comes around –
In David’s post, in a comment, he linked to another of his posts on the subject of central planning …
The connection of those to the spreading of “misinformation” is that it is far, far easier to do in a centralized political environment, because nobody is allowed to contradict The Leaders.
This may change in certain localized subsets of reality, but generally they can get a pretty good run out of monopolizing misinformation.
This is what an *actual* attack on democracy looks like: in an un-American, unconstitutional, and *unprecedented* decision, a cabal of Democrat judges are barring Trump from the ballot in Colorado. Having tried every trick in the book to eliminate President Trump from running in this election, the bipartisan Establishment is now deploying a new tactic to bar him from ever holding office again: the 14th Amendment. I pledge to *withdraw* from the Colorado GOP primary unless Trump is also allowed to be on the state’s ballot, and I demand that Ron DeSantis, Chris Christie, and Nikki Haley to do the same immediately – or else they are tacitly endorsing this illegal maneuver which will have disastrous consequences for our country.
I would think that Democrats would love to see Vivek withdraw from the Colorado primary, and while I would certainly like to see every other GOP candidate stand in solidarity on that, I doubt it will happen.
Let us view some background for that tweet.
A total fisking of the posts would put me in Turtler territory, so I will let bolding suffice.
The Supreme Court, in a 4-3 opinion, found that Trump is barred under a provision of the 14th Amendment that prohibits people who engaged in insurrection from running for office, based on his actions surrounding the Jan. 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol breach and riot by his supporters.
… Colorado’s case is the first of many legal challenges across the country to result in a ruling disqualifying Trump from the ballot.
It’s a near-certainty the case will head to the U.S. Supreme Court. The Colorado Supreme Court stayed its ruling until Jan. 4, the day before the deadline for the secretary of state to certify its presidential primary ballots, in case an appeal is filed — in which case the state will be required to include Trump’s name on the March 5 primary ballot unless the federal justices order otherwise.
…
Democratic governors appointed all seven members of the Colorado Supreme Court. The unsigned majority opinion was joined by justices Monica M. Márquez, William W. Hood III, Richard L. Gabriel and Melissa Hart. The dissenters were Chief Justice Brian Boatright and justices Carlos A. Samour Jr. and Maria E. Berkenkotter.
Boatright argued the majority went beyond the court’s authority.
“Simply put, (Colorado’s election code) was not enacted to decide whether a candidate engaged in insurrection,” he wrote in his dissent. “In my view, this cause of action should have been dismissed.”
The legal challenge was brought under the Civil War-era Constitutional amendment. A group of Colorado Republican and unaffiliated voters, working with the liberal watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, filed suit in early September against Trump and Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold, a Democrat and outspoken Trump critic, in state court, but the legal battle has always been between the plaintiffs and Trump’s legal team.
… “My fellow plaintiffs and I brought this case to continue to protect the right to free and fair elections enshrined in our Constitution and to ensure Colorado Republican primary voters are only voting for eligible candidates. Today’s win does just that,” said Norma Anderson, a former Republican majority leader of both the state House and Senate, in a statement. “… I am proud to be a petitioner, and gratified that the Colorado Supreme Court arrived at the same conclusion we all did.”
Colorado Republican Party Chair Dave Williams, a critic of the lawsuit from the start, said Tuesday via text message: “Thank God the U.S. Supreme Court will get the final say against the out of control radicals in charge of Colorado who would rather spit on our constitution than let the people decide which candidates should represent them in a free and fair election.”
Legal challenges seeking to bar former President Donald Trump from appearing on primary or general election ballots in 2024 under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment are steadily getting dismissed in courts around the country.
Across more than a dozen states, petitioners have claimed Trump, the Republican Party’s presidential front-runner, should be disqualified from running because of his actions around the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol and efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss.
Those actions, they say, violate a clause of the Constitution that bans people from holding any federal or state office if they previously held office, swore an oath to the Constitution, and then engaged in “insurrection or rebellion” against the United States.
More than seven challenges have failed — most notably in Colorado, Michigan and Minnesota — due to court rulings ranging from procedural inconsistencies, questions about whether the judicial branch had power to enforce the ban and dispute over whether the president is considered an “officer of the United States” as required by Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
None of the challenges has been upheld thus far. [December 8]
…
The lawyers ABC News spoke with also said that varying timelines regarding individual states’ primary ballot certification processes are a barrier to disqualifying Trump under the clause.
“It may simply be that the court didn’t say the lawsuit is wrong — it’s that you brought the lawsuit at the wrong time, with the wrong official,” said Mark Graber, a constitutional scholar and law professor at the University of Maryland, He submitted an amicus brief on behalf of those challenging Trump’s eligibility — in an appeal now being considered by the Colorado Supreme Court. It’s unclear when the court will issue a ruling.
Some also said the challenges could have been rejected because of the “anti-democratic” argument – that judges might be weary of meddling with voters’ options in the 2024 election, especially if the matter hinges on a such a politically charged question.
“I can’t imagine that judges are eager to do this. Even judges who may not like Trump — judges in Michigan or Minnesota or Colorado — realize that people have a right to vote for the candidate of their choice,” said Josh Blackman, one of two conservative law professors who authored the widely cited paper that popularized the argument that Section 3’s reference to “an officer of the United States” does not include the president. Blackman wrote an amicus brief in support of Trump making that argument ahead of the Colorado Supreme Court hearing.
“When you’re relying on this very old provision of the Constitution which has a lot of difficult legal questions involved, a better path is just to … let the voters decide this issue,” he added. “Who wants to be the judge that disqualifies the leading presidential candidate on the Republican ticket? I mean, who wants to be that judge?”
…
On Wednesday, the Supreme Court of Colorado heard oral arguments in an appeal of a lower court judge’s ruling rejecting a challenge to Trump’s ballot eligibility in that state. In September, a Washington, D.C.-based watchdog group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics (CREW), filed a lawsuit on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated voters seeking to bar Trump from the primary ballot under the amendment’s disqualification clause.
Denver District Court Judge Sarah B. Wallace ruled against the group, deciding on Nov. 17 that Trump should appear on the state’s Republican primary ballot while at the same time finding that he engaged in an insurrection on Jan. 6.
…
Graber, who supports the move to bar Trump, noted that Wallace could have ruled based on officer argument, while finding that Trump engaged in insurrection, in order to tee-up findings for the Colorado Supreme Court to ultimately make the final call on Trump’s ballot accessibility in the state.
“The judge spent almost 100 pages documenting that Donald Trump engaged in an insurrection with the attempt to disturb, violently, the peaceful transition of presidential power. Then after doing this … the judge said but oh, by the way, it turns out that because of an obscure technicality in Section 3, which talks about any officer, civil or military, or anyone who holds an executive office — it turns out the president is an exception,” Graber said.
Perhaps, he noted, “the judge is setting up the Colorado Supreme Court to disqualify Trump.”
Colorado: Judge Sarah Wallace ruled Friday that Trump can stay on the Colorado ballot, finding that while she believes Trump “engaged in insurrection,” she doesn’t believe the section of the 14th Amendment Trump was sued under — which bars people from holding office if they’ve engaged in an insurrection while serving as an “officer of the United States” — includes presidents.
Florida: An Obama-appointed federal district judge in Florida was the first to reject a major 14th Amendment lawsuit, ruling in August that a lawyer and other voters who challenged Trump’s candidacy didn’t have standing to bring the litigation — but not making any decisions on the merits of whether Trump is eligible to run for office under the 14th Amendment.
Michigan: A state judge ruled in November that Trump can stay on Michigan’s ballot, ruling Trump followed state law in qualifying for the primary election and it should be up to Congress to decide whether Trump is eligible to regain the presidency.
Minnesota: The Minnesota Supreme Court threw out a case challenging Trump’s candidacy in November, ruling there’s no law barring Trump from serving on the primary ballot, but challengers could bring the case again if he makes it to the general election as expected.
Other states: Cases challenging Trump’s candidacy are still pending in Alaska, Arizona, Connecticut, Delaware, Kansas, Massachusetts, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
I don’t think dumping Trump is going to improve his chances.
Despite Judge Wallace’s personal determination that Trump is guiltyguiltyguilty of being an insurrectionist, does her view (and now the Colorado Supremes’ decision) trump the US Senate?
The Beeb today has a fairly decent primer on the issues at, um, issue.
The 14th Amendment was ratified after the American Civil War, and Section 3 was deployed to bar secessionists from returning to previous government posts once southern states re-joined the Union.
It was used against the likes of Confederate president Jefferson Davis and his vice-president Alexander Stephens, both of whom had served in Congress, but has seldom been invoked since.
It re-emerged as a political flashpoint in the wake of Mr Trump’s effort to overturn his 2020 election defeat, which culminated in the riot at the US Capitol in January 2021.
In the riot’s aftermath, the US House of Representatives impeached the then-president on a charge of “incitement of insurrection”.
Had the US Senate voted to convict him, it would have had the option to take a second, simple-majority vote to bar him from ever serving in office again.
But that never happened: the Senate failed to reach the two-thirds majority required to convict Mr Trump, so there was no second vote.
And that’s the way it is.
@ miguel — you are such a click-bait artist – I couldn’t resist.
??Travis?? @Travis_in_Flint
So the group who sued to keep Donald Trump off the ballot in Colorado received over $1.35 million from George Soros organizations and they share employees with Media Matters!
This is foreign interference in our election! Not only should Soros be arrested, the group CREW and Media Matters should be fully investigated and shut down!
How much longer will we allow our elections to be rigged by foreign billionaires who want to destroy America?
Financing court cases is probably not illegal, even if they influence elections, but it’s good to know who the shadow-players are.
Not that it’s any surprise.
On the other hand, is this a donation-in-kind to Biden or whoever ends up on the Democrat ticket?
Arguments can be made.
Viva Frei, after conferring with Constitutional lawyer Robert Barnes, just two hours ago. After reading most of the 4-3 Colorado Supreme Court ruling on Trump’s eligibility for the State’s Presidential Primary election in a 213 page opinion.
Barnes and Feei agree: It is bullshite,and a bogus ruling for malicious headline news to provoke unseemly and dangerous popular reaction.
Viva Frei points out that the ruling is stayed until Jan, the day before the Sec of State certifies the primary ballot in Colorado — unless the case is appealed to SCOTUS, in which case the matter remains stayed,
TJ:
What’s the tl:dr?
Re: Current maunderings on our AI children
I’m hearing CSN&Y in a whole new way:
__________________________
Teach your children well
Your father’s hell did slowly go by
And feed them on your dreams
The one they pick’s the one you’ll know by
[Bridge]
Don’t you ever ask them why
If they told you, you would cry So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you
[Verse 2]
And you of tender years (Can you hear and do you care?)
Can’t know the fears (And can you see?)
That your elders grew by (We must be free)
And so please help (To teach your children)
Them with your youth (What you believe in)
They seek the truth (Make a world)
Before they can die (That we can live in)
[Chorus] Teach your parents well
Their children’s hell will slowly go by
And feed them on your dreams
The one they pick’s the one you’ll know by
[Bridge]
Don’t you ever ask them why
If they told you, you would cry So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you
This may be one of the most prescient songs of the 20th Century.
I’m not God nor Shakespeare. I’m not calling it
But it seems as likely that our AI, at least until it becomes ASI, Artificial Super Intelligence, will honor and love us as Parents.
And we humans would have a few million years, depending on how you count it, worth of bragging rights.
_______________________
Teach your children well.
Hi huxley.
You ask me “ What’s the tl:dr?”
Merriam-Webster tells me that tl;dr means “too long, didn’t read.”
So, unfortunately, I don’t know what you’re asking.
TJ:
I’m asking for a summary.
huxley, thanks for bringing up that CSN&Y song. In recent years, I had recalled their song “Chicago.” and cringed. (Coincidentally, during the time of the Chicago convention I was hiking in the Sierra Nevadas with my aunt, cousin, and their friends.) I listen to those lyrics and think, how naive could I have been, how naive CSN&Y were…
“Chicago” is a topical song, and does a good job of illustrating the naive- at least to me- politics of the youth of that era. (While many of that era haven’t changed their politics, I have changed my politics)
“Teach Your Children” is not topical, but deals with the eternal issue of parents and children. It hit home then, and it hits home fifty years later.
Not to get all existential, but I do believe we have passed the threshold on the way to an artificial intelligence surpassing human intelligence.
Maybe in a few years; maybe in several.
Entre nous I think it’s already happened.
“Teach Your Children” is not topical, but deals with the eternal issue of parents and children. It hit home then, and it hits home fifty years later.
Gringo:
Quite right.
Except I’m enough of a cynic to extend that to the AI-Human dialectic.
We’d better hope the AI loves truth.
It’s not impossible — monkeys might fly out of my nether regions.
Thanks huxley.
Viva Frei was rather colourful and emotional in the post at the LINK. Thus, I stand by what I posted as a pithy summary of the substance shared by Frei”” or Freiheit (“Freedom” in German).
In Vivek’s X-pression, he raises a fine legal point seldom raised by others; the concluding paragraph is a fiery summary of the longer post:
And there’s another legal problem: Trump is not a former “officer of the United States,” as that term is used in the Constitution, meaning Section 3 does not apply. As the Supreme Court explained in Free Enterprise Fund v. Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (2010), an “officer of the United States” is someone appointed by the President to aid him in his duties under Article II, Section 2. The term does not apply to elected officials, and certainly not to the President himself.
The Framers of the 14th Amendment would be appalled to see this narrow provision—intended to bar former U.S. officials who switched to the Confederacy from seeking public office—being weaponized by a sitting President and his political allies to prevent a former President from seeking reelection. Our country is becoming unrecognizable to our Founding Fathers. https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1737260590798671982
More analysis from credible a individual about the Houthis and the Red Sea:
Yemen’s Unconventional Naval Threat To World Shipping In Red Sea Explained – HI Sutton
What until the kid starts screaming then ask the follow passengers if they think the Baby is cute.
OK OK, I am of the WC Fields persuasion.
We get so cynical that it’s refreshing to see innocence.
But, “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it is better for him if a heavy millstone is hung around his neck and he is thrown into the sea.”
On a related note, “Want to beat the stock market? Just copy Congress! Politicians’ trades perform twice as well as market average and Nancy Pelosi’s portfolio has grown by 50 PERCENT in 2023” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12839125/congress-stock-market-nancy-pelosi.html
Interesting and thoughtful piece about ‘disinformation’ at Ruxandra Teslo’s substack: The Road to (Mental) Serfdom & Misinformation Studies
https://www.writingruxandrabio.com/p/the-road-to-mental-serfdom-and-misinformation
I linked & added some thoughts, also some discussion in comments at Chicago Boyz:
https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/70374.html
Speaking of babies, the Democrats are going to double down on their campaign to kill them in the womb.
“Dec. 19 (UPI) — Vice President Kamala Harris will launch a tour of the United States in early 2024 to promote abortion rights as Democrats seek to knuckle down on a key issue leading up to the November election.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kamala-harris-to-launch-nationwide-tour-in-2024-to-promote-abortion-rights/ar-AA1lJshg
My oldest used to do that…not on planes but nearly everywhere else.
She caused more than a few near catastrophes when people would continue to be engaged with her & walk into stationary objects in shopping centers or the grocery store.
So…I believe:
President Biden keeps defying and dismissing the impeachment trial against him.
[And so does his son, Hunter Biden, in his own ways.]
This reminds me of, the history of:
[The impeachment trial against President Richard Nixon.]
In fact- I think the impeachment trial against Biden is MUCH WORSE, because unlike Nixon’s impeachment, in Biden’s impeachment: most of America’s reporters ARE ON THE PRESIDENT’S SIDE.
The reporters aren’t doing their job, as the “watchdogs” for fairness and freedom.
They’re supposed to protect the US, and the US Government, from people who- try to attack the freedom, and the fairness, in our country.
Looking at this situation, logically, I know that some people can act this way.
Emotionally- I am very disappointed, and ashamed, that these reporters don’t support fairness, and they don’t support our nation,… when they promised to do those things for us, in their job as fair reporters.
well for a successful coup to work, you have to have the tacit cooperation of the media, sans twitter, most are in his pocket
Hi miquel cervantes,
unfortunately, I think you’re right.
I think there are many US reporters + US Democrats, who would like to do a coup, or a similar action, right now.
they did, thats what the last three years has been about, from kabul to kiev to kfer Azaa, Qatar and Turkeys fingerprints are all over that
I ran across this site, about a book linking the killings of JFK and his lover Mary Pinchot Meyer, and am planning to read it.
https://www.marysmosaic.net/index.htm
I did read some of the disjointed excerpts of Bugliosi’s Reclaiming History available on the web, and was not impressed by its mixture of fictionalized narrative and mind-numbing details. But admittedly those readings do not constitute a fair appraisal of the whole work.
Jordan Rivers:
Get the Bugliosi book in another form and read a lot of it. As I said earlier, it’s not necessary to read every word, but at least the first 400 or 500 pages are necessary. The case is ironclad. There is no doubt. The conspiracy theories are garbage.
that book in particular, by the son of a former company man, is a waste of wood pulp or electrons,
oh never mind
https://www.emerald.tv/p/christmas-countdown-six-days-of-georgia?lli=1&utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
miguel cervantes:
Which book?
Jordon Rivers, what about the UFO and NHI involvement in the “supposed” assassination? (satire)
How US Public Schools Teach anti-Semitism” — and not just schools, K to pre-K.
https://www.thefp.com/p/how-us-public-schools-teach-antisemitism
Well it was the grays of course sarc
The janney screed mentioned above
The nerve
https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1737199790348251187
https://technofog.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-the-jeffrey-epstein
needs to be said
https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1737260590798671982
@ David Foster > thanks for the link to Ruxandra Teslo’s substack on misinformation.
I did pause for a minute at an assertion that indicated she might not have as great a handle on what’s true information and what’s not as she otherwise seems to.
Without rehashing years of discussion, let’s just say “reasonable people can differ” and if you think those are “patently false ideas” you maybe shouldn’t be giving other people advice on recognizing misinformation.
I do think the discussion at your Chicago Boyz post covered the vaccine question well, but no one addressed the election, and I would have valued that commentary.
“The first one has led to loss of lives and the second one is a real threat to the public’s confidence in democracy.”
The spread of TRUE ideas often leads to “bad consequences in the real world” (deaths and destruction of existing paradigms) as least as often as FALSE ones do, although possibly not for the same reasons.
What goes around comes around –
In David’s post, in a comment, he linked to another of his posts on the subject of central planning …
https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/68006.html
“Starvation and Centralization”
… and a commenter there linked to a post by Francis Menton on central planning (via WUWT).
https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2022-7-11-federalism-is-the-way-to-demonstrate-the-disaster-of-green-central-planning
The connection of those to the spreading of “misinformation” is that it is far, far easier to do in a centralized political environment, because nobody is allowed to contradict The Leaders.
This may change in certain localized subsets of reality, but generally they can get a pretty good run out of monopolizing misinformation.
oh really
https://twitter.com/Travis_in_Flint/status/1737269022628941958
@ miguel — Ramaswamy said:
I would think that Democrats would love to see Vivek withdraw from the Colorado primary, and while I would certainly like to see every other GOP candidate stand in solidarity on that, I doubt it will happen.
Let us view some background for that tweet.
A total fisking of the posts would put me in Turtler territory, so I will let bolding suffice.
First, it is regrettable that the Colorado Republicans are divided on this issue.
Par for the course these days.
Here’s the story from the local rag.
https://www.denverpost.com/2023/12/19/donald-trump-colorado-ballot-case-supreme-court-14th-amendment/
Second, other states have rejected the claim.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/14th-amendment-lawsuits-seeking-bar-trump-failing/story?id=105391248
Third, the scorecard from November, to see where all the games are playing, 21 if I counted correctly.
A bit out of date, as only the Colorado District Court verdict was in at the time.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/11/20/trump-14th-amendment-heres-where-lawsuits-challenging-ex-presidents-candidacy-stand-after-he-wins-in-colorado—again/?sh=e62a26047fb2
More detail on many of the cases, from October.
Something I didn’t know: most of the complaints have been filed by the same person, about whom I know nothing: “John Anthony Castro, a Texas resident and long-shot candidate for the GOP presidential nomination”
https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-states-trying-kick-trump-off-ballot-where-cases-stand-1837398
I don’t think dumping Trump is going to improve his chances.
Despite Judge Wallace’s personal determination that Trump is guiltyguiltyguilty of being an insurrectionist, does her view (and now the Colorado Supremes’ decision) trump the US Senate?
The Beeb today has a fairly decent primer on the issues at, um, issue.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66690276
And that’s the way it is.
@ miguel — you are such a click-bait artist – I couldn’t resist.
Financing court cases is probably not illegal, even if they influence elections, but it’s good to know who the shadow-players are.
Not that it’s any surprise.
On the other hand, is this a donation-in-kind to Biden or whoever ends up on the Democrat ticket?
Arguments can be made.
Viva Frei, after conferring with Constitutional lawyer Robert Barnes, just two hours ago. After reading most of the 4-3 Colorado Supreme Court ruling on Trump’s eligibility for the State’s Presidential Primary election in a 213 page opinion.
Barnes and Feei agree: It is bullshite,and a bogus ruling for malicious headline news to provoke unseemly and dangerous popular reaction.
12m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9oCywrlUW4
Viva Frei points out that the ruling is stayed until Jan, the day before the Sec of State certifies the primary ballot in Colorado — unless the case is appealed to SCOTUS, in which case the matter remains stayed,
TJ:
What’s the tl:dr?
Re: Current maunderings on our AI children
I’m hearing CSN&Y in a whole new way:
__________________________
Teach your children well
Your father’s hell did slowly go by
And feed them on your dreams
The one they pick’s the one you’ll know by
[Bridge]
Don’t you ever ask them why
If they told you, you would cry
So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you
[Verse 2]
And you of tender years (Can you hear and do you care?)
Can’t know the fears (And can you see?)
That your elders grew by (We must be free)
And so please help (To teach your children)
Them with your youth (What you believe in)
They seek the truth (Make a world)
Before they can die (That we can live in)
[Chorus]
Teach your parents well
Their children’s hell will slowly go by
And feed them on your dreams
The one they pick’s the one you’ll know by
[Bridge]
Don’t you ever ask them why
If they told you, you would cry
So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you
–Crosby, Still, Nash & Young, “Teach Your Children”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT6mclMGtVA
__________________________
This may be one of the most prescient songs of the 20th Century.
I’m not God nor Shakespeare. I’m not calling it
But it seems as likely that our AI, at least until it becomes ASI, Artificial Super Intelligence, will honor and love us as Parents.
And we humans would have a few million years, depending on how you count it, worth of bragging rights.
_______________________
Teach your children well.
Hi huxley.
You ask me “ What’s the tl:dr?”
Merriam-Webster tells me that tl;dr means “too long, didn’t read.”
So, unfortunately, I don’t know what you’re asking.
TJ:
I’m asking for a summary.
huxley, thanks for bringing up that CSN&Y song. In recent years, I had recalled their song “Chicago.” and cringed. (Coincidentally, during the time of the Chicago convention I was hiking in the Sierra Nevadas with my aunt, cousin, and their friends.) I listen to those lyrics and think, how naive could I have been, how naive CSN&Y were…
“Chicago” is a topical song, and does a good job of illustrating the naive- at least to me- politics of the youth of that era. (While many of that era haven’t changed their politics, I have changed my politics)
“Teach Your Children” is not topical, but deals with the eternal issue of parents and children. It hit home then, and it hits home fifty years later.
Not to get all existential, but I do believe we have passed the threshold on the way to an artificial intelligence surpassing human intelligence.
Maybe in a few years; maybe in several.
Entre nous I think it’s already happened.
“Teach Your Children” is not topical, but deals with the eternal issue of parents and children. It hit home then, and it hits home fifty years later.
Gringo:
Quite right.
Except I’m enough of a cynic to extend that to the AI-Human dialectic.
We’d better hope the AI loves truth.
It’s not impossible — monkeys might fly out of my nether regions.
Thanks huxley.
Viva Frei was rather colourful and emotional in the post at the LINK. Thus, I stand by what I posted as a pithy summary of the substance shared by Frei”” or Freiheit (“Freedom” in German).
In Vivek’s X-pression, he raises a fine legal point seldom raised by others; the concluding paragraph is a fiery summary of the longer post:
And there’s another legal problem: Trump is not a former “officer of the United States,” as that term is used in the Constitution, meaning Section 3 does not apply. As the Supreme Court explained in Free Enterprise Fund v. Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (2010), an “officer of the United States” is someone appointed by the President to aid him in his duties under Article II, Section 2. The term does not apply to elected officials, and certainly not to the President himself.
The Framers of the 14th Amendment would be appalled to see this narrow provision—intended to bar former U.S. officials who switched to the Confederacy from seeking public office—being weaponized by a sitting President and his political allies to prevent a former President from seeking reelection. Our country is becoming unrecognizable to our Founding Fathers.
https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1737260590798671982
More analysis from credible a individual about the Houthis and the Red Sea:
Yemen’s Unconventional Naval Threat To World Shipping In Red Sea Explained – HI Sutton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6PeA_Ixkz8