My god is that powerful. I hope it changes some minds.
What Dwaz said.
I fear that DonaldJTrump.com will not be lacking material for future ads.
The message is simple. A month ago, America was in control there. Now America is helpless there, and so are Americans. This was a deliberate decision by the President, with no good reason behind it.
And President Biden is gaslighting the people who voted for him, big-time. Soon enough, no one will fail to see it.
Folks, you wanted Trump out in the worst way… and that’s exactly what you got.
And it’s by no means over.
The only thing I can say with certainty is that as long as Joe Biden remains president the chaos will increase, not decrease.
To simply state outright what should have been obvious to voters before now, but what recent events have brought into stark relief: Joe Biden is completely incapable of solving or even mitigating the collection of very real problems we are facing as a nation. He’s an ancient, amoral grifter who even in his best days was of dubious competence at any task beyond enriching himself and his family, and his best days are long behind him. He’s always been a greedy fool, but up until January 20, 2021 that was never a great consequence to most people.
The terrifying thing is that the ad almost feels over the top, except that every bit of it is true. If a novelist wrote about events like this, an editor would surely object that it’s too much, too fast. The reader couldn’t possibly believe that an administration could be THIS bad. And yet it is.
This is one of the few times when I wish we had a parliamentary system instead of a fixed-term presidency.
Kate:
I’ve been thinking that for a few weeks now
Eh, I can think of many edits I would have done to clean up that ad. Reality is even worse than it portrays, and some simple points were overlooked. Too many people will get to the end and see President Trump and revert to their perhaps involuntary response to deny and dismiss. Maybe if it said “Mitt Romney” instead, LOL!
Just in case you think things could get much worse…
At what point., or have we passed it, do we drop good-faith incompetence and go with deliberate evil?
Ok…I’m not trying to pick a fight…but so what?
Rallies & killer “campaign” ads…toward what end?
As much as I was crushed by the stolen election & hoped & pray for a just outcome…I don’t see how POTUS 45 gets another grab at the brass ring. I’m no Constitutional scholar, but if Biden goes down we get Kamala the Great and whoever her handlers pull into the VP slot…or if both are dethroned it’s Nancy.
Even if everyone who legitimately voted for Gropey Joe stood in sackcloth & ashes in front of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave & renounced their vote…We got the Dementia Kid until 2024 ceteris parabis.
It’s going to take more than ads & cognitive dissonance to make life different in the US or anywhere else right now. We may have reached the “all the king’s horses & all the king’s men” moment in US history…certainly in Afghanistan’s history.
A change is gonna come & that will likely first involve a great reckoning for those who have destroyed what was once great & mighty. I just don’t see how ads that may never see the light of day on the MSM will accomplish anything.
Speaking of the Devil . . . he just walked out to the teleprompter a mere 25 minutes late to address the nation about the terror attack in Kabul. The “estimable” Ms. Psaki will then take questions. Are any of you watching this live feed?
I’ve listened to about two minutes of this dead-fish mumbling monologue and can’t take any more.
Like Neo, I prefer not to listen to politicians’ speeches, I prefer to read them after the fact. So I haven’t heard Biden’s voice very much in the last year and a half.
Listening to this commercial, and the bits and pieces I’ve heard from other videos in the last week, he sounds like my dad a couple of years ago (at age 92), when I thought “oh, he’s just old” but in hindsight the dementia was creeping up on him.
Pop went from “can’t find the word, doesn’t remember prior conversations” to “actively hallucinating things and confusing dreams with reality” to “doesn’t recognize his only child” in a stunningly short time. But looking back, he was clearly already impaired even before the dementia took a sudden turn for the worse.
I’ve taken a lot of the “dementia patient” chatter with a grain of salt, as political hyperbole, but not any more.
@John Guifoyle – I think they’re talking about 2024. We’re stuck with the dimentia patient, at least until Democrats no longer need Kamala’s vote in the Senate, and one or the other of them until 2024.
I’ll be the one to say it. If things stay this bad, a potted plant could probably beat Biden or Harris in 2024. Why on God’s green earth would we risk blowing it by running Trump, who probably maxes out at 49-50% of the vote when the wind is at his back.
Not to mention that Trump will be the same age in 2024 that Biden is now.
Thanks PA+Cat, the live feed is mostly nothing now but there were some 30 min of Biden. For me the feed started about -1:40, and Biden starts about -58, so about 40 min after.
After his weak first minutes, he got much better talking about the soldiers, the heroes who died, and about AMERICA.
But as I listen to him, knowing he’s mostly lying: “America will not be intimidated”.
Biden claims that, now, he is giving the commanders “everything they ask for”.
But there’s no talk about how this terrible situation was allowed to happen.
Emphasis in on the current “mission, to get as many people out as possible in the time available”.
Well, this evacuation is the current crisis, so it makes some sense. Biden refuses to admit any mistakes, like trusting the Taliban. “No one trusts them, but we believe it’s in their self-interest to get Americans out.”
“No evidence of collusion between the Taliban and ISIS-k [bombers]”.
Live blogging it as it happened 30 min. ago, this is enough.
Biden critics should watch it – just as I advised Trump critics to read his actual tweets and see his speeches (I couldn’t listen to a whole hour of Trump, either).
So, 30 min of Biden, probably at his best, will be good enough for Dems to keep the faith.
Until the terrible things I fear, which I hope never happen, actually do happen.
If there continue to be thousands evacuated daily, Biden claimed 7k the last day and at one point said 5k Americans, it will be the biggest evacuation of civilians.
(Thanks for capability, Christian Capitalism! Biden won’t mention it.)
If the Taliban keep their post American “atrocities” at a low enough level, the Dems will avoid too much election punishment. There might well be other ways the Dems punish Reps even more, but how bad the Afghan surrender is will be debated for weeks, months, thru the 2022 elections.
I’m already tired of it, and don’t even know most of the details.
Governing to get past the news cycle.
It doesn’t work when the bad shit hits the fan.
But these people don’t know how to do anything else.
Ads Shmads.
FedGov is banning the importation of Russian ammunition, further tightening already insanely tight supply. FedGov might be stupid and incompetent about most things, but it knows the One Big Thing.
Can’t say I trust the Biden administration. However, I’ve seen this number in more than one place:
________________________________
In 19 hours, 81 helicopters air lifted nearly 6,000 Vietnamese and more than 1,000 Americans from Saigon during the largest helicopter evacuation in history.
I’m no military guy, but I wonder if we couldn’t put helicopters to good use in this emergency.
Or could have, if we started planning for it even two weeks ago.
Do you have a “potted plant” in mind, Bauxite?
Because Trump made that ad.
Why didn’t anybody else? The RNC, for starters.
Show me somebody with Trump’s pure political warrior courage, and I -and millions more-will vote for that person. Another Bush or similar “palatable” squish ain’t going to get it done.
Here’s a real military guy, Jocko Willink, a retired Navy SEAL, on what he would have said if he were Biden today:
__________________________________
I wanted to give you an update on the current situation in Afghanistan. We were set to leave Afghanistan this month and as we began the final drawdown, I made some critical errors. Namely, I underestimated the strength of the Taliban and I overestimated the strength and capability of the friendly Afghan forces. This was my fault and due to my mistake the Taliban has taken control of Afghanistan.
Unfortunately there are tens of thousands of Americans on the ground there, as well as friends and allies of America on the ground. These people, Americans and our allies are all stranded and that is my fault. But they will not be stranded for long.
Sorry Bauxite…that 2024 dog won’t hunt.
We may have no country left by then.
Boatbuilder is right…
Why didn’t RNC make that ad? Are they on the take too? Why is Madame Lindsay not burning down the House over every Biden administration initiative? Where’s the Senate investigation over this betrayal?
What purpose do rallies and ads serve when those who might make a difference won’t?
There’s a big difference between making an ad and winning an election, let alone governing. Trump is a showman and entertainer (and very good at it). That doesn’t mean would win or that he was or would be an effective president. At this point, “not as bad as Biden” is a pathetically low bar.
Also, any scenerio that puts a Republican in the White House before January 2025 would likely be a “no country left” level event in and if itself.
There’s a big difference between making an ad and winning an election, let alone governing.
Whatever they’re paying you is too much.
I wonder just how many people who aren’t already on ‘our’ side will ever see this ad.
I mean seriously.
FaceBook and YouTube aren’t going to let anyone see it. Their algos might let it get through to hard core Trump supporters just for plausible deniability. But nobody who could potentially have their mind changed will ever see it. You can take that to the bank.
Anyway, I reckon just about all hearts and minds which could have been won by persuasion have been won already. Any future flippers will do so because they sense which way the wind is blowing. Sorry to disappoint you about the mass of humanity, but that’s how it works.
Daniel+Schwartz has the right of it. Which is why liberal denial will have an expiration date.
John Guilfoyle,
True, ads alone will not effect the needed change. Events is what will convince Americans of the democrat’s sheer incompetence. Harris can only exacerbate those coming events. Trump can win since he won in 2020. Whether fraud will prevent any Republican candidate from succeeding is another issue. Personally, I would favor Fla. Gov. DeSantis. He’s much more articulate than Trump, far less bombastic and consistent in his conservatism. In 2024 we’ll have a country, though we may not recognize it. But there is a change a-coming. What can’t go on, won’t go on.
Tom Grey,
There are no Americans being evacuated, nor will there be any more flights out of Kabul. Last flight came under fire as it was lifting off, when an aircraft is most vulnerable. It got away but that’s an omen that can’t be ignored.
huxley,
The Taliban have access to MANPADS, Man-portable air-defense systems. Portable surface-to-air missiles. Those helicopters would be sitting ducks.
huxley, Geoffrey Britain —
Helicopters are out of range of anywhere they could start from without multiple refuelings en route. Things are bad enough, I don’t really want to have to watch Desert Two: Afghanistan Boogaloo.
Re: Helicopters…
Geoffrey Britain, Bryan Lovely:
Well, that’s a shame.
Why did helicopters work in Vietnam?
Now one-way domestic helicopter rides… There’s Potential right there.
Could begin by offshoring some of the offshoring types.
@huxley,
Because the helicopters out of Saigon only had to get to the carriers just over the horizon from the coast, so about 60 miles or so.
Bryan Lovely:
What about MANPADS?
My naive idea would be to set up a temporary airfield big enough to handle a few jumbo transports at a time and of course well-guarded. Then chopper people in from changing locations that the Taliban couldn’t block with checkpoints.
It wouldn’t be small and it wouldn’t be simple and maybe it wouldn’t work. But goddamn we are a global superpower. We ought to be able to do something besides play “Mother May I?” with the Taliban.
@Huxley:
1) Take 1 sachet of Evaporated Patton.
2) Add Water.
3) Triumph with brilliant flanking maneuver.
A young, freshly-minted Global Superpower could do it.
Too sclerotic now.
It just has to play out the hard way. Lot of people are learning important lessons. Not the political or military leadership, obviously… but people lower down. Good lessons which will bear fruit in future. Good will come out of this.
In the shorter term, the Darwin Awards ceremony is going to be a tough betting market.
Art Deco – So you’re saying that making a good ad is like winning an election and governing? That’s a curious position.
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My god is that powerful. I hope it changes some minds.
What Dwaz said.
I fear that DonaldJTrump.com will not be lacking material for future ads.
The message is simple. A month ago, America was in control there. Now America is helpless there, and so are Americans. This was a deliberate decision by the President, with no good reason behind it.
And President Biden is gaslighting the people who voted for him, big-time. Soon enough, no one will fail to see it.
Folks, you wanted Trump out in the worst way… and that’s exactly what you got.
And it’s by no means over.
The only thing I can say with certainty is that as long as Joe Biden remains president the chaos will increase, not decrease.
To simply state outright what should have been obvious to voters before now, but what recent events have brought into stark relief: Joe Biden is completely incapable of solving or even mitigating the collection of very real problems we are facing as a nation. He’s an ancient, amoral grifter who even in his best days was of dubious competence at any task beyond enriching himself and his family, and his best days are long behind him. He’s always been a greedy fool, but up until January 20, 2021 that was never a great consequence to most people.
The terrifying thing is that the ad almost feels over the top, except that every bit of it is true. If a novelist wrote about events like this, an editor would surely object that it’s too much, too fast. The reader couldn’t possibly believe that an administration could be THIS bad. And yet it is.
This is one of the few times when I wish we had a parliamentary system instead of a fixed-term presidency.
Kate:
I’ve been thinking that for a few weeks now
Eh, I can think of many edits I would have done to clean up that ad. Reality is even worse than it portrays, and some simple points were overlooked. Too many people will get to the end and see President Trump and revert to their perhaps involuntary response to deny and dismiss. Maybe if it said “Mitt Romney” instead, LOL!
Just in case you think things could get much worse…
Apparently US officials handed over the names of American citizens, green card holders and Afghan allies to the Taliban.
nonapod
At what point., or have we passed it, do we drop good-faith incompetence and go with deliberate evil?
Ok…I’m not trying to pick a fight…but so what?
Rallies & killer “campaign” ads…toward what end?
As much as I was crushed by the stolen election & hoped & pray for a just outcome…I don’t see how POTUS 45 gets another grab at the brass ring. I’m no Constitutional scholar, but if Biden goes down we get Kamala the Great and whoever her handlers pull into the VP slot…or if both are dethroned it’s Nancy.
Even if everyone who legitimately voted for Gropey Joe stood in sackcloth & ashes in front of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave & renounced their vote…We got the Dementia Kid until 2024 ceteris parabis.
It’s going to take more than ads & cognitive dissonance to make life different in the US or anywhere else right now. We may have reached the “all the king’s horses & all the king’s men” moment in US history…certainly in Afghanistan’s history.
A change is gonna come & that will likely first involve a great reckoning for those who have destroyed what was once great & mighty. I just don’t see how ads that may never see the light of day on the MSM will accomplish anything.
Speaking of the Devil . . . he just walked out to the teleprompter a mere 25 minutes late to address the nation about the terror attack in Kabul. The “estimable” Ms. Psaki will then take questions. Are any of you watching this live feed?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
I’ve listened to about two minutes of this dead-fish mumbling monologue and can’t take any more.
Like Neo, I prefer not to listen to politicians’ speeches, I prefer to read them after the fact. So I haven’t heard Biden’s voice very much in the last year and a half.
Listening to this commercial, and the bits and pieces I’ve heard from other videos in the last week, he sounds like my dad a couple of years ago (at age 92), when I thought “oh, he’s just old” but in hindsight the dementia was creeping up on him.
Pop went from “can’t find the word, doesn’t remember prior conversations” to “actively hallucinating things and confusing dreams with reality” to “doesn’t recognize his only child” in a stunningly short time. But looking back, he was clearly already impaired even before the dementia took a sudden turn for the worse.
I’ve taken a lot of the “dementia patient” chatter with a grain of salt, as political hyperbole, but not any more.
@John Guifoyle – I think they’re talking about 2024. We’re stuck with the dimentia patient, at least until Democrats no longer need Kamala’s vote in the Senate, and one or the other of them until 2024.
I’ll be the one to say it. If things stay this bad, a potted plant could probably beat Biden or Harris in 2024. Why on God’s green earth would we risk blowing it by running Trump, who probably maxes out at 49-50% of the vote when the wind is at his back.
Not to mention that Trump will be the same age in 2024 that Biden is now.
Thanks PA+Cat, the live feed is mostly nothing now but there were some 30 min of Biden. For me the feed started about -1:40, and Biden starts about -58, so about 40 min after.
After his weak first minutes, he got much better talking about the soldiers, the heroes who died, and about AMERICA.
But as I listen to him, knowing he’s mostly lying: “America will not be intimidated”.
Biden claims that, now, he is giving the commanders “everything they ask for”.
But there’s no talk about how this terrible situation was allowed to happen.
Emphasis in on the current “mission, to get as many people out as possible in the time available”.
Well, this evacuation is the current crisis, so it makes some sense. Biden refuses to admit any mistakes, like trusting the Taliban. “No one trusts them, but we believe it’s in their self-interest to get Americans out.”
“No evidence of collusion between the Taliban and ISIS-k [bombers]”.
Live blogging it as it happened 30 min. ago, this is enough.
Biden critics should watch it – just as I advised Trump critics to read his actual tweets and see his speeches (I couldn’t listen to a whole hour of Trump, either).
So, 30 min of Biden, probably at his best, will be good enough for Dems to keep the faith.
Until the terrible things I fear, which I hope never happen, actually do happen.
If there continue to be thousands evacuated daily, Biden claimed 7k the last day and at one point said 5k Americans, it will be the biggest evacuation of civilians.
(Thanks for capability, Christian Capitalism! Biden won’t mention it.)
If the Taliban keep their post American “atrocities” at a low enough level, the Dems will avoid too much election punishment. There might well be other ways the Dems punish Reps even more, but how bad the Afghan surrender is will be debated for weeks, months, thru the 2022 elections.
I’m already tired of it, and don’t even know most of the details.
Governing to get past the news cycle.
It doesn’t work when the bad shit hits the fan.
But these people don’t know how to do anything else.
Ads Shmads.
FedGov is banning the importation of Russian ammunition, further tightening already insanely tight supply. FedGov might be stupid and incompetent about most things, but it knows the One Big Thing.
Can’t say I trust the Biden administration. However, I’ve seen this number in more than one place:
________________________________
In 19 hours, 81 helicopters air lifted nearly 6,000 Vietnamese and more than 1,000 Americans from Saigon during the largest helicopter evacuation in history.
http://www.fallofsaigon.org/LastToLeave_PatClark.php
________________________________
I’m no military guy, but I wonder if we couldn’t put helicopters to good use in this emergency.
Or could have, if we started planning for it even two weeks ago.
Do you have a “potted plant” in mind, Bauxite?
Because Trump made that ad.
Why didn’t anybody else? The RNC, for starters.
Show me somebody with Trump’s pure political warrior courage, and I -and millions more-will vote for that person. Another Bush or similar “palatable” squish ain’t going to get it done.
Here’s a real military guy, Jocko Willink, a retired Navy SEAL, on what he would have said if he were Biden today:
__________________________________
I wanted to give you an update on the current situation in Afghanistan. We were set to leave Afghanistan this month and as we began the final drawdown, I made some critical errors. Namely, I underestimated the strength of the Taliban and I overestimated the strength and capability of the friendly Afghan forces. This was my fault and due to my mistake the Taliban has taken control of Afghanistan.
Unfortunately there are tens of thousands of Americans on the ground there, as well as friends and allies of America on the ground. These people, Americans and our allies are all stranded and that is my fault. But they will not be stranded for long.
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/08/heres-navy-seal-jocko-willinks-viral-video-on-how-hed-handle-afghanistan-if-he-were-president/
__________________________________
That’s a leader speaking.
Sorry Bauxite…that 2024 dog won’t hunt.
We may have no country left by then.
Boatbuilder is right…
Why didn’t RNC make that ad? Are they on the take too? Why is Madame Lindsay not burning down the House over every Biden administration initiative? Where’s the Senate investigation over this betrayal?
What purpose do rallies and ads serve when those who might make a difference won’t?
There’s a big difference between making an ad and winning an election, let alone governing. Trump is a showman and entertainer (and very good at it). That doesn’t mean would win or that he was or would be an effective president. At this point, “not as bad as Biden” is a pathetically low bar.
Also, any scenerio that puts a Republican in the White House before January 2025 would likely be a “no country left” level event in and if itself.
There’s a big difference between making an ad and winning an election, let alone governing.
Whatever they’re paying you is too much.
I wonder just how many people who aren’t already on ‘our’ side will ever see this ad.
I mean seriously.
FaceBook and YouTube aren’t going to let anyone see it. Their algos might let it get through to hard core Trump supporters just for plausible deniability. But nobody who could potentially have their mind changed will ever see it. You can take that to the bank.
Anyway, I reckon just about all hearts and minds which could have been won by persuasion have been won already. Any future flippers will do so because they sense which way the wind is blowing. Sorry to disappoint you about the mass of humanity, but that’s how it works.
Daniel+Schwartz has the right of it. Which is why liberal denial will have an expiration date.
John Guilfoyle,
True, ads alone will not effect the needed change. Events is what will convince Americans of the democrat’s sheer incompetence. Harris can only exacerbate those coming events. Trump can win since he won in 2020. Whether fraud will prevent any Republican candidate from succeeding is another issue. Personally, I would favor Fla. Gov. DeSantis. He’s much more articulate than Trump, far less bombastic and consistent in his conservatism. In 2024 we’ll have a country, though we may not recognize it. But there is a change a-coming. What can’t go on, won’t go on.
Tom Grey,
There are no Americans being evacuated, nor will there be any more flights out of Kabul. Last flight came under fire as it was lifting off, when an aircraft is most vulnerable. It got away but that’s an omen that can’t be ignored.
huxley,
The Taliban have access to MANPADS, Man-portable air-defense systems. Portable surface-to-air missiles. Those helicopters would be sitting ducks.
huxley, Geoffrey Britain —
Helicopters are out of range of anywhere they could start from without multiple refuelings en route. Things are bad enough, I don’t really want to have to watch Desert Two: Afghanistan Boogaloo.
Re: Helicopters…
Geoffrey Britain, Bryan Lovely:
Well, that’s a shame.
Why did helicopters work in Vietnam?
Now one-way domestic helicopter rides… There’s Potential right there.
Could begin by offshoring some of the offshoring types.
@huxley,
Because the helicopters out of Saigon only had to get to the carriers just over the horizon from the coast, so about 60 miles or so.
Bryan Lovely:
What about MANPADS?
My naive idea would be to set up a temporary airfield big enough to handle a few jumbo transports at a time and of course well-guarded. Then chopper people in from changing locations that the Taliban couldn’t block with checkpoints.
It wouldn’t be small and it wouldn’t be simple and maybe it wouldn’t work. But goddamn we are a global superpower. We ought to be able to do something besides play “Mother May I?” with the Taliban.
@Huxley:
1) Take 1 sachet of Evaporated Patton.
2) Add Water.
3) Triumph with brilliant flanking maneuver.
A young, freshly-minted Global Superpower could do it.
Too sclerotic now.
It just has to play out the hard way. Lot of people are learning important lessons. Not the political or military leadership, obviously… but people lower down. Good lessons which will bear fruit in future. Good will come out of this.
In the shorter term, the Darwin Awards ceremony is going to be a tough betting market.
Art Deco – So you’re saying that making a good ad is like winning an election and governing? That’s a curious position.