Ted Cruz suggests a possible solution to the child separation issue
You can find it here:
The provisions of the legislation, according to the news release, include:
Doubling the number of federal immigration judges, from roughly 375 to 750.
Authorizing new temporary shelters with accommodations to keep families together.
Mandating that immigrant families be kept together, absent aggravated criminal conduct or threat of harm to children.
Providing for expedited processing and review of asylum cases so that ”” within 14 days ”” those who meet the legal standards will be granted asylum and those who do not will be immediately returned to their home countries.
I noticed on other blogs that discussion of this Cruz proposal unleashed a barrage of anger at Cruz for some sort of perceived betrayal. I disagree. I think that this is a situation that needs addressing, both for practical political reasons (its use as propaganda by the opposition) and for more basic reasons (it’s a problematic policy that could and should be improved on, although not at the cost of enforcing our immigration laws).
The question is: can this, or something like it, pass? And if so, will it really help the situation?
It won’t matter since “helping the situation” is not what any of this is about.
Vanderleun:
“Helping” has two parts. The first involves propaganda. The second involves the situation itself.
Of course “helping” isn’t all it’s about. But both parts are part of what it’s about.
first your going to have to prevent a civil war over DISINFORMATZIA (a concept and thing that was invented by the soviets!!)
Fact-checked: Viral photo of boy in enclosure taken at protest, not in detention facility
A viral photo that appeared to depict a child detained at the border over his immigration status was actually taken at a protest, according to fact-checkers.
The image was shared by social media users like journalist and filmmaker Jose Antonio Vargas, who said in the caption: “This is what happens when a government believes people are ‘illegal.’ Kids in cages.”
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/q81/p403x403/35050666_2064282013614545_1849759388374401024_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e57e58af452ea8cd7993d1ec0dc5873e&oe=5BA28B8E
Leroy Pena, who took the image, told PolitiFact the youngster had followed his older brother into the enclosure before spotting his mother outside.
AND
Democrats’ Border Separation Bill Would Let Nearly All Parents Who Commit Federal Crimes Get Off Scot-Free
so, if your an illegal immigrant, stop doing those petty crimes against your county or peple… go out and commit federal offenses… like kidnapping a senator who makes such a law.. cause your not going to go to jail if they find out…
what could go wrong?
Every Senate Democrat has signed on to cosponsor a bill written so carelessly that it does not distinguish between foreign children at the border and U.S. citizen children
The bill further does not distinguish between federal officers handling the border crisis and federal law enforcement pursuing the ordinary course of their duties
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like the signing statements that take away your rights (already done!!) this one has a similar provision of 100 miles of a border.. (ny, washington, la, etc… biggest mass areas).. [no one wanted to know they lost their rights!!!! but they did, and this is not the thing that did it, but look how they did!!]
“[a]n agent or officer of a designated agency shall be prohibited from removing a child from his or her parent or legal guardian at or near the port of entry or within 100 miles of the border of the United States”
this bill is going to regulate conduct across a great many federal offices that have nothing to do with separating children from families arriving unlawfully in the United States.
http://thefederalist.com/2018/06/19/democrats-border-separation-bill-let-nearly-parents-commit-federal-crimes-get-off-scot-free/
Considering that the majority of the kids in these detention centers haven’t been separated from their parents, but a human trafficker, this won’t really solve what is causing the hysteria: kids in cages, kids in distress!
I would hope a solution would involve a disincentive for sending unaccompanied minors into the US so that they may be used as the initial link for chain migration of the rest of the family.
Also wonder if doubling the resources (judges, detention centers) will encourage more border-crossing families, not deter them.
Cruz’s latest internal polls must show Beto O’Rourke closing in on him in the Texas Senate race.
Ann,
So cynical 🙂
These seem like pretty common sense changes. No chance the Democrats or GOPe will get behind this.
If this “Weekly Standard” article is correct (and if I’ve understood it correctly), a combination of Trump’s “Zero-Tolerance” policy and what is called the “Flores settlement to a class-action suit” is at the root of the current impasse.
From the article —
https://www.weeklystandard.com/holmes-lybrand/fact-check-did-democrats-pass-a-law-separating-children-and-adults-at-the-southern-border :
‘Much of the argument comes down to the 1997 Flores settlement to a class-action lawsuit from the 1980s surrounding the “detention and release” of minors taken into custody by the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS). The settlement demands the release of children to their parents, relatives, etc. without unnecessary delay. If this placement is unavailable – e.g., if the child’s parent is a threat to them or is placed in criminal proceedings, or the supposed parent is only posing as one – the government must put the child in the “least restrictive” accommodations that are appropriate for their needs.’ [End of quote]
It seems then that either Trump will have to recalibrate the “Zero-Tolerance” policy and/or Congress will have to figure out a way to modify the “Flores settlement” so that what was originally intended to have been a more humane decision will no longer block but in fact lead to a more humane resolution given the current circumstances.
On the other hand, the current impasse could conceivably be used, politically, to try to force Trump’s hand.
One would hope that there is a way towards some kind of cooperation here leading to a solution or improvement of the current situation.
Sen Cruz is correctly addressing this issue and for the reasons neo states. And Vanderleun hits the nail squarely on the head. Both Bush and Obama handled illegal immigrant children similiarly. This is simply propaganda with the goal of damaging Trump in the LIV’s mind.
I should add that finding a solution, obviously, ought to be a bi-partisan issue.
Both Republicans and Democrats should work together to resolve this as fast as possible.
For humanitarian reasons and nothing else.
Politically speaking, however, if the GOP can be seen as promoting a potential solution while, at the same time, trying to remain tough on illegal immigration, this could parlay what is being hysterically and shrilly portrayed as sheer and unabashed Republican inhumanity—with questionable fairness and little adherence to context—to political advantage.
One hopes (against hope) that politics will not get in the way of any potential resolution.
However, if the Democrats and their MSM enablers are perceived as playing politics with a potential solution such as the one floated by Cruz, then they should be prepared to pay a steep price.
Brian E,
Do you consider David French part of the GOPe? He’s behind Cruz’s bill.
Trump, on the other hand, in a speech today said this:
Ann,
Who is this David French person you speak of?
I haven’t considered who is part of the GOPe, but I suppose he is, but David French doesn’t have to run for re-election.
I think what Barry Meislin just alluded to is the reason whoever the GOPe might be will run from such a solution.
Then there’s this going on.
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/report-illegal-immigrant-children-strangely-know-very-little-about-parents/?
“McConnell backs bill to keep immigrant families together”:
Since it’s all theater anyways, maybe offer to reallocate planned Parenthood funding towards family housing.
Whycoh Says:
June 19th, 2018 at 9:15 pm
Since it’s all theater anyways, maybe offer to reallocate planned Parenthood funding towards family housing.
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works for me
The left doesn’t want a solution, it wants to let no (manufactured crisis go to waste.
artfldgr Says:
June 19th, 2018 at 3:50 pm
The Federalist post you linked ends with this all-too-familiar refrain:
“At a minimum, Democrats’ proposed legislation is the consequence of extremely careless and hurried drafting. If this is actually what Democrats intend to do—and every Democratic senator has now signed on—it is a monstrous attack on law and order. If enacted, this bill would turn federal law enforcement upside down in the name of protecting relatively few unlawful border crossers from being prosecuted. This sloppiness is a prime example of why Democrats are unserious about outcomes and unfit to govern when the emotional stakes get high.”
It will not be supported by the Democrats so long as they think it will defuse or eliminate a story that redounds to them politically.
steve walsh:
It could pass without the support of Democrats if the Republicans were united on it.
Neo – that’s a big IF.
Just a couple more articles from CT, which is the rabbit hole I went down tonight. URLs are pretty much self-explanatory.
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/sarah-sanders-makes-laura-bush-regret-trump-attack-your-husband-signed-the-law/
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/first-photos-from-inside-facilities-for-illegal-immigrant-children-shatter-establishment-media-narrative/
AesopFan:
A HUGE “if.”
Clarifications from J.E. Dyer – because Schumer said so.
https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/06/19/schumer-makes-it-crystal-clear-democrats-want-to-extort-trump-into-ceasing-border-enforcement/
CONTEXT FIRST
“Out of nearly 12,000 migrant children being held in U.S. facilities, some 10,000 arrived unaccompanied, meaning their parents sent them on the perilous journey north through Mexico alone. The other children, around 2,000, of them, are the ones at issue. ”
SCHUMER SECOND
(all these are quotes from or paraphrases of Senator S.)
Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) on Tuesday dismissed a legislative proposal backed by Republican leaders to keep immigrant families together at the border, arguing that President Trump could fix the problem more easily with a flick of his pen.
“There are so many obstacles to legislation and when the president can do it with his own pen, it makes no sense,” Schumer told reporters. “Legislation is not the way to go here when it’s so easy for the president to sign it.”
Asked if that meant Democrats would not support a bill backed by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to keep immigrant families together while seeking asylum on the U.S. border, Schumer said they want to keep the focus on Trump.
Schumer’s opposition to a legislative fix means there likely won’t be a quick end to the emotional images of immigrant children being separated from their families unless Trump backs down and reverses his “zero tolerance” policy.
ANALYSIS & CLARIFICATION THIRD
“This proposal [by Cruz] is too sensible and effective for the Democrats. The main reason, apparently, is that it would enable us to stop the family separations while also continuing to enforce the law.
Instead of making sure illegal border-crossers are stopped and processed, the Democrats want Trump to do what Obama did: use his pen and phone to dial back enforcement, so that illegal border-crossers are basically just released into the United States because there’s no capacity to hold and process them as the law says we’re supposed to.
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But why should Trump have to reverse his “zero tolerance” policy? What kind of vicious, deceptive wording is that? Can you name other laws for which we should not have zero-tolerance policies? Let’s do that with environmental laws and equal-opportunity laws. Sign memos in advance stating which clear violations of the laws we will tolerate. Any takers?
Grand theft? Embezzlement? Vehicular manslaughter? Murder? A little bit of any of these is OK, because some people do feel like there are benefits to stealing, driving drunk, and hacking spouses to death, or shooting uncooperative armed-robbery victims? Let the president, or a state governor, decide how much is the right amount?
Schumer obviously doesn’t care about children or family separations at the border. He cares about extorting Trump, with emotional images of children, to get Trump to gut the enforcement of U.S. law. Remember that.”
Simple solution: Cease hearing asylum requests anywhere but a US consult or embassy.
Kick illegal entrants back across the border immediately with a card directing them to the nearest consulate in case they actually believe they have a case for asylum.
I see no argument that any would have a legitimate case since they have obviously received asylum in Mexico already. Let Mexico deal with the problem.
Why does anyone believe they are our responsibility.
Democrats were removed from power by the people but they think the fault was Trump’s. They hate him and will try any tactic and use any cause to try to destroy him.
Every single thing they do is calibrated to return them to power. They constantly use any means, legal or illegal, to get it back. They lie, cheat and manipulate and always immediately accuse their opponents of doing it to forestall them being charged. There is no depth to which they will not sink and no person or cause that they will not use to their advantage. Their friends in the media will join in the attack and cover for them every step of the way.
Anyone who doesn’t think we are in an uncivil war for the future survival of the country just isn’t paying attention.
They will never be satisfied was what I typed and decided not to post last night. It had been a difficult hardware day and perhaps had tainted my compassion.
In the morning I still feel that it is an important reminder. Call me cynical, but I have seen the slippery slope poo-pooed time after time. Then the landslide starts.
Illegal is illegal. Is this much more than another version of human shields? How did they pass through other countries en route to the US? How long has this been going on? Who doubts that somewhere down the line American criminals are going to petition for the right the have their children while in prison? It is not fun to be Cassandra.