Beto O’Rourke got a lot of attention when he suggested that churches opposing gay marriage should lose tax-exempt status:
“There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break for anyone … that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us.” O’Rourke told a cheering audience. “And so as president, we are going to make that a priority, and we are going to stop those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow Americans.”
The most depressing thing isn’t that Beto, the wannabe dictator (who will not be the Democratic nominee in 2020, but who is considered a bona fide candidate) said such a thing, it’s that he said it in front of a “cheering audience.”
And in a related depressing thought, reflect that this guy came close to becoming the senator from Texas in 2016. Of course, he wasn’t saying this sort of thing back then. But doesn’t that make it worse? Lie until you get in power, and then do what you want.
And would he accomplish this by executive order? Perhaps, according to the author of this article, Rod Dreher. Maybe the only thing protecting us from tyranny, in the end, is convention and public intolerance of it, which is fast waning:
There is no reason that the IRS in a Democratic administration could not do that to churches and religious institutions that discriminated against LGBTs. No reason. It’s entirely a matter of executive will…
To be clear, we don’t know how all the Democrat candidates would come down on removing tax-exempt status from dissenting churches and religious organizations. They must be asked, and asked again until we get a clear answer. Personally, though, I have no doubt at all that every single one of them would do this if they thought it wouldn’t cost them too much politically. Christians need to understand that as America secularizes, and as those who still call themselves Christian accept anti-biblical views on LGBT, it will increasingly become possible for a future president to impose this punishment on churches and religious organizations without paying a significant political price.
In the comments section to that Dreher piece, there is a large number of Christain believers saying how much they hate Trump, and that maybe they’ll sit this one out. It’s odd to me under the circumstance the article states. They sound like NeverTrumpers whose main objection seems to be that Trump is crass.
This is typical, for example:
I despise Trump — who he is, how he carries himself and his haphazard leadership. He has done real, lasting damage to this country.
And then someone else asks:
Could I get an example of that, please? I see only slight variations on that claim regularly, but I honestly can’t see what it is people are talking about.
Yes, I mean this in earnest, not as a talking point or some kind of “gotcha” or other political point. I want to understand what you are talking about.
No answer.
Oh, and another depressing thing. A lot of people there are saying “What difference does it make, because I don’t think churches should be tax-exempt anyway.” But that’s a very different issue. One can debate that question, but it has little to do with what Beto said. There is a world of difference between saying that all churches (including mosques, temples, etc.) should not be tax-exempt and saying this or that particular church (or mosque or temple, perhaps) – should lose its tax-exempt status because it is against gay marriage. Isn’t the different obvious?
Another comment:
Sorry, I still cannot vote for Trump. As it stands, I will either leave that box on the ballot blank, or vote third party…I’m no great fan of Pence, either, but as my husband remarked this morning, a rabid gerbil would make a better president than Trump. Trump has made a shambles of the Executive branch and made us a laughingstock among people of good will (not simply the worst of the EU and other Western governments), and is helping to enable the craziness of the Democratic platform. Bill Clinton’s actions that led to his impeachment are completely dwarfed by Trump’s immorality, ineptitude and the bloviating and lies that emanate from his narcissism. Hard times are coming to people of faith no matter who is elected.
The comment thread is loaded with similar general put-downs, seemingly based on some sort of feeling of revulsion towards Trump on a style and personality level.
An answer in the same comments thread:
Narcissism, I’ll definitely grant you… though how that differentiates him from any of the other politicians continues to elude me, save that he doesn’t try to hide it.
Immorality, ditto.
Bloviating, lies… ditto, though on this one, I think he’s a noticeably lesser offender than most in Washington, actually (yes, I’m serious – lying regularly and straight to your face seems to be the basic entry requirement for politicians these days).
And ineptitude… OK, I literally don’t understand this claim from people. Look critically and unemotionally at the guy’s accomplishments, and tell me that “inept”. Not “immoral” or “unethical”, we covered that in the previous points.
Trump has moved the ball on things conservatives have claimed to want for decades that no one else did anything about, and you’re willing to throw that away because he’s not willing to hide the “making of the sausage.”from your view? And at the same time complain about “lying”?
Forget about the man – I wouldn’t want to hang out with him, either. Look at what he’s DOING. Getting the ARABS to work with the Israelis? Getting more concessions from the NorKs than all before him put together? EVERYTHING on the economic front? (Actually go LOOK at the numbers – don’t depend on ANYONE in the media to give the proper feeling about it – it’s everything EVERYONE claims to want, but no one will mention it. Higher income for the lower 80% of households, lower income for the top 20%, literally the best employment numbers for minorities ever recorded, etc, etc.)
But you don’t like his mannerisms? They’re “icky” or something, so let’s throw all of that away? REALLY?
Or am I missing some complaint that doesn’t boil down to “he’s as icky as the other politicians, just more open about it”?
That seems to sum it up to me. Most of the NeverTrumpers are basically saying a combination of “Trump is icky” and “He has cooties.” They don’t want to get his ickiness and his cooties on themselves.