Wow.
Maybe that near-third of Democrats represents the number who actually voted for Trump in 2016. Then again, perhaps not; the poll doesn’t seem to have asked whether respondents approve of the theft. My guess is that, had that question been asked, some of the Democrats would have said “yes.”
A lot of people who think Trump was probably robbed apparently also think he should concede. Perhaps some are reasoning a la the Nixon legend of 1960 regarding Chicago cheating and how he supposedly ignored it “for the good of the country.”
Let’s take a closer look at the poll results:
Forty-seven percent (47%) say it’s likely that Democrats stole votes or destroyed pro-Trump ballots in several states to ensure that Biden would win, but 50% disagree. …
Even among those who Strongly Approve of Trump’s job performance, nearly one-in-four (23%) believe he should admit he lost…
Fifteen percent (15%) of those who want Trump to concede agree [that Democrats cheated].
The survey was taken November 17-18. Of course, now that most of us don’t trust polls at all, it’s hard to know what to make of it. But I think it’s probably at least an approximation of sentiment. It was taken before yesterday’s Giuliani/Powell/Ellis press conference, which might or might not have moved the needle.
Whoever ends up being president, about half the population will believe that president is illegitimate. This is a bad situation for the nation, but it’s not a new situation. It began with 2000, and then there was a hiatus till 2016. Four years ago, however, the main problem wasn’t alleged by the Democrats to have been vote-counting. They blew up a small and ordinary amount of internet propaganda from Russia into an absurd-from-the-start full-blown fiction that Trump was some sort of Russian agent or was at least compromised by Russia. The Democrats and the MSM devoted the next four years to variations on that theme, and that has undermined not only Trump but the republic itself.
Now, of course, they are still busy at the game of accusing Trump of horrendous offenses. Witness, for example, this NY Times article that Pocket (a service of Mozilla) felt I really really needed to see today: “Trump’s Attempts to Overturn the Election Are Unparalleled in U.S. History.” Would that the Times had shown that level of outrage for the four years it cheered on and facilitated the truly unprecedented attempt by the Democrats to discredit and remove Trump from office by using various agencies of government to spy on and defame him.
Trying to get the courts to investigate whether fraud occurred in an election is in fact warranted, particularly this year with the rule-changes – always in the direction of more relaxation and less security – the stopping of vote-counting in various swing states at more or less the same time, and then the flood of Democratic votes pouring in, not to mention all the affidavits attesting to vote-counting irregularities. It is a very odd argument to make that this all should be ignored. The Times would most certainly be singing another tune if the shoe were on the other party’s foot.
I see that Mollie Hemingway has quite a bit to say on the subject:
What Democrats and their media enablers put Trump and his Republican voters through these last four years was truly horrific. The media sold the Russia collusion story as a certainty for years. When it unraveled, they either denied that it had unraveled, or ignored it and moved to the next effort to oust Trump.
The false and delusional conspiracy theory, wielded eagerly and viciously by media handmaidens in order to harm Trump and his voters and keep them from accomplishing their policy objectives, damaged the country. While there is no evidence in support of the claim of treasonous collusion with Russia to steal the 2016 election, and in fact not a single American was found to have colluded, it was pushed so relentlessly by liberals that 81 percent of liberals actually believe it was true! Tribe is right that conspiracy theories are harmful to the fabric of the country. He and every single other person who perpetrated the Russia collusion hoax should never forget how much they harmed the country with their lies.
Trump’s 74 million supporters — knowing that their political opponents are willing to spy, fund and fabricate a dossier, push a “collusion” hoax, accuse a federal judge of being a serial gang rapist, run a “resistance” campaign throughout the federal government, manufacture an impeachment, use tech corporations to censor legitimate news about Biden family corruption, trash an economy, and lie about Trump’s standing with American voters through propaganda polls — now have a pretty good idea that election fraud is well within the realm of possibility. That would be true even if Democrats hadn’t spent much of the year working to ensure lowered scrutiny of mail-in ballots, which everyone knows are more susceptible to fraud than other ballots.
If it takes a few weeks for these 74 million voters and their elected representatives to see if they can learn anything about election integrity and whether this election had it, the people who put them through four years of claims about “illegitimacy” can go ahead and sit down and wait.
Yes, they can. But they won’t. They will never stop.
Before this election, I felt more fear than I ever have before around an election. One of many reasons was that I was afraid of fraud, but still another reason was that even if Trump was elected I felt that the attacks would ramp up. Riots, lawfare, allegations of fraud, new impeachments (because I felt pretty sure the House would still be controlled by Democrats), new leaks of calls with foreign leaders, new allegations of Russian collusion or whatever the meme du jour from the left might be. The left would stop at nothing to stop Trump.