When I found and read a transcript here, it came as no surprise that Trump’s call with Raffensperger had been mischaracterized by the MSM as nefarious, when the actual call versus MSM discussion of the call seems to have been much as shipwreckedrew describes it here: “a case study in the media duplicity that President Trump has battled from day one.”
I suggest you read the transcript (or listen to the call, if you have more time and patience, or both). I believe you will find that it is basically a lawyer’s conference in which, as shipwreckedcrew writes:
…[T]he conversation immediately went to the basis for the election dispute lawsuit in Georgia and the position of the Trump Campaign as expressed in the complaint it has filed.
Much later in the call, closer to the end, Meadows comments on a possible follow-up meeting which would be considered part of further efforts to reach a settlement, “just like the call” — or words to that effect.
That was the first confirmation that I heard that the reason for the call taking place was to look for a settlement or narrowing of issues in dispute in the matter pending in state court in Georgia. From that perspective — which every IDIOT journalist whose stories I read failed to mention or understand that as part of providing context for the call — the President’s comments and Raffensperger’s responses made perfect sense.
These were adverse parties in pending litigation on the call, along with their counsel and advisors. Each side was arguing the facts and stating the case from their respective points of view. The President was not trying to “coopt” Raffensperger, he was trying to convince Raffensperger that the facts as alleged in the complaint filed were correct, and the Trump Campaign had the evidence to back them up.
The bulk of the call was Trump’s recitation of a litany of allegations of many different types of election fraud in Georgia, and Raffesnperger’s (and his lawyers’) denial. What emerged was that Trump and his team have been frustrated at receiving little or no specific information that refutes their charges of fraud, other than these generalized reassurances that Georgia hasn’t found any fraud to speak of. And Trump’s statements that the MSM has treated as suggesting that Raffensperger illegally “find” votes for Trump that weren’t cast is completely unsupported by the call. That exchange actually refers to Trump’s suggestion of some combination of throwing out illegally cast votes as well as allowing legally cast votes for Trump (such as provisional ballots that may not yet have been counted, and involve people who came to the polls and discovered that someone else had already voted in their name).
I also think that some of the context of what Trump said may have been this sort of thing, news of which just came out a few days ago. Excerpt:
Georgia election data indicates that more than 30,000 votes were removed from President Donald Trump and another 12,173 votes were switched to Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, data scientists testified on Dec. 30 during a state Senate hearing.
Lynda McLaughlin from the Data Integrity Group, along with data scientists Justin Mealey and Dave Lobue, presented the results before the Georgia Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Elections.
They testified on Dec 30 but their data was available online about a week earlier.
Some excerpts from Trump’s remarks from the transcript [“Brad” is Raffensperger; emphasis added]:
So I guess with all of it being said, Brad, the bottom line, and provisional ballots, again, you know, you’ll have to tell me about the provisional ballots, but we have a lot of people that were complaining that they weren’t able to vote because they were already voted for. These are great people.
And, you know, they were shellshocked. I don’t know if you call that provisional ballots. In some states, we had a lot of provisional ballot situations where people were given a provisional ballot because when they walked in on November 3 and they were already voted for.
So that’s it. I mean, we have many, many times the number of votes necessary to win the state.
Here Trump is talking about signature verification problems:
The only way you can do a signature verification is go from the one that signed it on November whatever. Recently. And compare it to two years ago, four years ago, six years ago, you know, or even one. And you’ll find that you have many different signatures. But in Fulton, where they dumped ballots, you will find that you have many that aren’t even signed and you have many that are forgeries.
Okay, you know that. You know that. You have no doubt about that. And you will find you will be at 11,779 within minutes because Fulton County is totally corrupt…
And they’re going around playing you and laughing at you behind your back, Brad, whether you know it or not, they’re laughing at you. And you’ve taken a state that’s a Republican state, and you’ve made it almost impossible for a Republican to win because of cheating, because they cheated like nobody’s ever cheated before. And I don’t care how long it takes me, you know, we’re going to have other states coming forward…
I have to find 12,000 votes, and I have them times a lot. And therefore, I won the state. That’s before we go to the next step, which is in the process of right now.
“Find” is through this process of uncovering fraud, obviously – which he goes on and on about. Now, you may think his belief in this fraud is delusional and/or mistaken, but he clearly believes it has happened and has very specific information about it – information we’ve discussed in many posts here already.
This is what Trump says about Kemp, with the cadences of New York:
You treated the population of Georgia so badly. You, between you and your governor, who is down at 21, he was down 21 points. And like a schmuck, I endorsed him, and he got elected, but I will tell you, he is a disaster.
The people are so angry in Georgia, I can’t imagine he’s ever getting elected again, I’ll tell you that much right now. But why wouldn’t you want to find the right answer, Brad, instead of keep saying that the numbers are right? ’Cause those numbers are so wrong?
Then lawyer Cleta Mitchell refers to the election case in Georgia that has yet to be heard, the one that shipwreckedcrew previously wrote about here. Mitchell says this, which I think is an excellent point:
…[T]he people of Georgia and the people of America have a right to know the answers. And you have data and records that we don’t have access to.
And you can keep telling us and making public statement that you investigated this and nothing to see here. But we don’t know about that. All we know is what you tell us. What I don’t understand is why wouldn’t it be in everyone’s best interest to try to get to the bottom, compare the numbers, you know, if you say, because .?.?. to try to be able to get to the truth because we don’t have any way of confirming what you’re telling us. You tell us that you had an investigation at the State Farm Arena. I don’t have any report. I’ve never seen a report of investigation. I don’t know that is. I’ve been pretty involved in this, and I don’t know. And that’s just one of 25 categories.
But this is the quote from Trump that was especially noteworthy to me. It reminds me of Trump’s riffs in his speeches [my emphasis]:
And Stacey Abrams is laughing about you [Raffensperger]. She’s going around saying these guys are dumber than a rock. What she’s done to this party is unbelievable, I tell you. And I only ran against her once. And that was with a guy named Brian Kemp, and I beat her. And if I didn’t run, Brian wouldn’t have had even a shot, either in the general or in the primary. He was dead, dead as a doornail. He never thought he had a shot at either one of them. What a schmuck I was. But that’s the way it is. That’s the way it is. I would like you .?.?. for the attorneys .?.?. I’d like you to perhaps meet with Ryan, ideally tomorrow, because I think we should come to a resolution of this before the [runoff] election. Otherwise you’re going to have people just not voting. They don’t want to vote. They hate the state, they hate the governor, and they hate the secretary of state. I will tell you that right now. The only people that like you are people that will never vote for you. You know that, Brad, right? They like you, you know, they like you. They can’t believe what they found. They want more people like you. So, look, can you get together tomorrow? And, Brad, we just want the truth. It’s simple.
And everyone’s going to look very good if the truth comes out. It’s okay. It takes a little while, but let the truth come out. And the real truth is, I won by 400,000 votes. At least. That’s the real truth.
With a little poetic license and a few tiny inconsequential changes, I can make it scan as a poem of five eight-line stanzas:
Stacey Abrams is laughing at you.
She’s going round saying
You’re dumber than a rock.
What she’s done to this party
Is unbelievable.
And I only ran against her once.
And that was with a guy named Kemp,
And I beat her.
And if I hadn’t run,
He wouldn’t have had a shot,
Either in the general
Or in the primary.
He was dead,
Dead as a doornail.
He never thought he had a shot
At either one of them.
What a schmuck I was.
But that’s the way it is.
That’s the way it is.
I’d like for the attorneys
To meet with Ryan tomorrow,
Because we should come
To a resolution of this
Before the runoff.
Otherwise you’re going to have people
Not voting. They don’t want to vote.
They hate the state,
They hate the governor,
and they hate the secretary of state.
I’ll tell you that right now.
The only people who like you
Are people who’ll never vote for you.
You know that, Brad, right?
They like you, you know,
They like you.
They can’t believe what they found.
They want more people like you.
So, can you get together tomorrow?
And, Brad, we just want the truth.
It’s simple. We just want the truth.
And everyone’s going to look very good
if the truth comes out.
It’s okay.
It takes a little while,
but let the truth come out.
And the real truth is,
I won by 400,000 votes at least.
That’s the real truth.
Is that the real truth? We don’t know, and at this point I don’t think we’ll ever know. The court system certainly isn’t about to help us learn, and neither is Brad Raffensperger.