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The hostages’ return – and some predictions

The New Neo Posted on November 25, 2023 by neoNovember 25, 2023

Hamas has stalled on today’s hostage return – of course – accusing Israel of blah blah blah.But this very recent news is that the return is going ahead. Hamas doesn’t miss an opportunity to wring the last drop of psychological suffering from the entire episode.

As far as yesterday’s exchange goes – this is very strange, IMHO: Hamas has released the following footage of the hostage transfer. What is their goal? Perhaps there’s something for everyone, depending on the point of view of the beholder. Hamas sympathizers can see the guys with the green headbands as oh-so-solicitous and kind, which of course is absurd under the circumstances. Gazans can glory in the frightened looks on the faces of the frail-looking elderly women, and feel all puffed-up with power over Israelis.

And the rest of us can watch in sympathy/empathy with the hostages, looking at their stressed expressions and seeing the usual sea of young Gazan men watching, in this case holding up their cell phones to record the momentous transfer.

And now for some happier family reunion photos.

No men were returned, though.

Quite a few MSM outlets also highlighted the celebratory return of Gazan terrorists, as though there is some sort of moral equivalence. But since a lot of people seem to have lost the ability to tell the difference between hostages taken violently from their homes and criminal terrorist perpetrators released from prison, I guess such videos work to engender more sympathy for Hamas and for terrorists. Like this little darling:

Ahmad Manasra was one of the Palestinian teenagers released by Israel today in exchange for Israeli hostages

Seeing the video of him hugging his mother, many pro-Palestinian people claimed Israel arrests innocent kids

He & his cousin stabbed random 13 y/o and 21 y/o Jews pic.twitter.com/OmRXOJIt2a

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) November 25, 2023

I haven’t seen any interviews with returned hostages; it’s way too soon. But I make some predictions:

(1) Hamas will draw out the return of the men and the Americans as long as possible. The latter are especially precious to Hamas because the Biden administration will continue to pressure Israel for a ceasefire and a deal until they are released, and even after.

(2) Note that none of the young women raped at the rave have been returned. I wonder whether they are alive. Once they could come back to testify about having been raped, there is reason to suspect they were killed to silence them.

(3) Hostages may keep mostly quiet in public, in order to facilitate the return of the others.

(4) Many of these people have been leftist peaceniks, and they may continue to talk about peace and two-state solutions.

(5) Probably Hamas is releasing the people first who were treated the best, so they will report about decent treatment.

(6) As time goes on, Hamas will want more and more vicious terrorists in exchange. And it will play more games with time and with demands.

(7) But as time goes on, Israeli intelligence may also uncover more about where hostages are held, and successful rescue operations might become possible. That would be very risky though; a failed one would give Hamas even more fodder for bragging.

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Open thread 11/25/23

The New Neo Posted on November 25, 2023 by neoNovember 25, 2023

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Roundup

The New Neo Posted on November 24, 2023 by neoNovember 24, 2023

(1) The story of this three-year-old hostage is heart-wrenching. But please read it.

(2) The new Argentinian president is quite a guy, with quite a girlfriend. Here’s the story.

(3) More on the hostage deal.

(4)

(5) This is incredibly perverse and twisted [emphasis mine]:

More information has emerged about Connor Sturgeon, the gunman who carried out a mass shooting in April at the Old National Bank in Louisville, Kentucky, killing five and injuring eight. There were a multitude of issues that pushed the shooter to carry out the act, but his primary motivation was to promote gun control by killing white victims.

Before this latest news had come out, the brother of one of the victims said this:

[The victim] did nothing to deserve this, he simply went to work one day just like all of us do. The fact that anyone can walk in and buy a semi-automatic weapon, its only purpose being to kill many in seconds, is simply wrong.

The shooter’s parents have said their son was having mental health problems. I can well believe it.

(6) Geert Wilders’ party has had an excellent showing in the Netherlands. And here I thought Europe was supposed to hate Trump and Trumpish notions.

But no one is sure whether Wilders will be able to form a coalition government.

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Christmas and Chanukah shopping

The New Neo Posted on November 24, 2023 by neoNovember 24, 2023

Yes, it’s Black Friday. If you order from Amazon, I get a tiny percentage and you don’t pay any more.

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Thirteen Israeli hostages released

The New Neo Posted on November 24, 2023 by neoNovember 24, 2023

Here’s a list, along with photos and short bios. The list is heavy on elderly women and lighter than I expected on children. One of the released hostages was Hana Katzir, 76, who had previously been reported by Hamas to have died. Also released were ten Thais and one Filipino, almost certainly all of them workers who got swept up in the terrorists’ giddy embrace of power over the helpless.

You may recall that slightly over 20% of the hostages are Thai workers, so most of them remain in captivity or are deceased. I doubt Hamas cares much if at all about holding them, compared to the value of holding Israelis. Why these ten? I have no idea.

Last night I watched video indicating that experts in psychological trauma are waiting for the hostages, including of course the children. The hostages’ trauma is complex, and includes great deal more than “merely” being held in captivity by Hamas. For many, it includes having seen parents and/or siblings murdered in cold blood in front of them. For many, it will include going back to relatives other than their parents, and/or discovering that many of their friends and acquaintances are now dead.

Hamas and Gazans will, of course, call this a victory for Hamas, and celebrate the release of terrorists from Israeli prisons as heroes.

Last night I also watched this Caroline Glick video in which she and a guest discussed the hostages and the deal for their release. She is very critical of the government’s decision, and one of the things she said several times was that the people of Israel were resolute but the government was weak. But I find that curious, since it appears to me that it is the people who have been focusing on the hostages and pressuring the government for their release – which is understandable, considering the sheer numbers, including many elderly people and vulnerable children. It seems to me that the government was between the proverbial rock and hard place – and that’s just where Hamas wanted them.

I actually had expected the government to agree to an even worse deal than this, given the Shalit precedent. Of course, there’s still time, and a great many hostages who remain.

I am hoping these hostages do well with re-integrating into their families and their lives, and that they become an excellent and invaluable source of actionable information for the Israeli government and military.

Welcome home!

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Open thread 11/24/23

The New Neo Posted on November 24, 2023 by neoNovember 24, 2023

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Happy Thanksgiving!

The New Neo Posted on November 23, 2023 by neoNovember 23, 2023

This year has been rough in many ways, and the future is uncertain. But there are still many things for us to be thankful for despite all that. I wish you a wonderful Thanksgiving Day and feast – large or small – filled with family and/or friends of your choice.

Did you get up early to cook the turkey? (Me: no.) Stuffing, in or out? (I prefer in.) Jellied cranberries or whole cranberry sauce? (Whole, which I usually make myself. It’s very easy.) Marshmallows in the sweet potatoes or no marshmallows? (No, no, a thousand times no.) What kind of pie? (Pecan and apple, and pumpkin only if it’s a very special recipe.)

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Open thread 11/23/23

The New Neo Posted on November 23, 2023 by neoNovember 23, 2023

They all sound to me like they’re burping:

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It’s the 60th anniversary of JFK’s assassination

The New Neo Posted on November 22, 2023 by neoNovember 22, 2023

Conspiracy theories continue to be popular. Regular readers of this blog know I believe Oswald did it alone, and I see the evidence as completely overwhelming that this is so.

Rather than write something new, I draw your attention to some previous efforts of mine: this, this, this, and this.

[NOTE: If you follow the links to the Bugliosi book, I highly recommend pages 1444 to 1459 for people who are into the idea that Oswald may have done it but that he did it for some agency or entity such as the CIA or FBI or Mafia or Castro whatever it is you think that entity might be.]

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Truck explodes between Canada and US: investigated as attempted terror attack [scroll down for UPDATE]

The New Neo Posted on November 22, 2023 by neoNovember 22, 2023

Just in:

There are now reports that the vehicle that blew up at an inspection station at the Rainbow Bridge, border crossing between the U.S. and Canada was packed with “a lot of explosives,” according to Fox’s Alexis McAdams.

McAdams also reports that the vehicle traveled toward the Customs and Border Patrol building near the toll kiosks then exploded, and that the FBI is now the lead agency on the ground. Sources have told McAdams that the event is being investigated as an attempted terror attack.

The car was coming to the US, and the bridge is near Niagara Falls. Two men in the car are dead and a border officer injured.

Everyone’s been expecting more terrorist attacks, and it stands to reason this was one effort – that has failed.

From ABC:

Surveillance video showed the vehicle stopped at an initial security checkpoint, according to sources briefed on the investigation. The vehicle was then directed to a secondary security checkpoint, and at that point the vehicle sped up and crashed into the secondary screening location, sources said.

So it sounds as though the perpetrators might have crashed on purpose, rather than being caught.

UPDATE 10 PM: It seems that there was an explosion, but no explosives. Governor Hochul says it has been determined that this was not terrorism, but an accident involving a couple from western New York.

Posted in Terrorism and terrorists | 27 Replies

On the Israeli hostage deal

The New Neo Posted on November 22, 2023 by neoNovember 22, 2023

Nearly everyone on the right agrees that it’s a terrible deal. My initial gut reaction is to concur with that assessment. But I’m going to take a different position here – my second take, as it were.

How could anyone not have mixed feelings about any Israeli/Hamas hostage deal? On the one hand, there are those incredibly sympathetic hostages, especially the children. On the other hand, there is the terrible price to pay: rewarding hostage-taking through the freeing of people dangerous to Israel’s future security, and pausing the military operations against Hamas.

If we were to do a cold-blooded cost/benefit analysis, it would seem obvious that no such deal should be made. But the Israeli government doesn’t have a history of cold-bloodedness on these things. And I find that, on reflection, I’m not so sure that the obvious answer is actually so very correct.

I’ve often heard people who criticize the current Israeli government for not going in to free the hostages comparing lack of such efforts unfavorably to the successful raid on Entebbe in 1976, in which hostages on a hijacked airplane were successfully rescued in Uganda. Entebbe was an incredible operation by the Israeli forces that caught the attention of the world, but it had little similarity to the hostage situation Israel now faces, because in 1976 the Israeli authorities knew the hostages were being held together at the Entebbe airport. What’s more:

Mossad built an accurate picture of the whereabouts of the hostages, the number of hijackers, and the involvement of Ugandan troops, based on information from the released hostages in Paris. Further, Israeli firms had been involved in construction projects in Africa during the 1960s and 1970s: while preparing the raid, the Israeli army consulted with Solel Boneh, a large Israeli construction firm that had built the terminal where the hostages were held.

… IDF major Muki Betser later remarked in an interview that Mossad operatives extensively interviewed the hostages who had been released. He said that a French-Jewish passenger who had a military background and “a phenomenal memory” had provided detailed information about the number of weapons carried by the hostage-takers.

That’s not to say the Entebbe rescue operation was easy. It was justly famous for its planning, audacity, and success:

Initiating the operation at nightfall on 4 July 1976, Israeli transport planes flew 100 commandos over 4,000 kilometres (2,500 mi) to Uganda for the rescue effort. Over the course of 90 minutes, 102 of the hostages were rescued successfully, with three having been killed. One of the dead hostages, Dora Bloch, had been murdered by Ugandan authorities at a hospital in Kampala shortly after the Israeli rescue operation; she had fallen ill during the hijacking and was removed from the plane for treatment prior to the commandos’ arrival. The Israeli military suffered five wounded and one killed; Yonatan Netanyahu was Israel’s sole fatality of Operation Entebbe, and had led Sayeret Matkal during the rescue effort – he was the older brother of Benjamin Netanyahu, who would later become Israel’s prime minister. The Israeli commandos killed all of the hijackers and 45 Ugandan soldiers, and eleven of Uganda’s MiG-17s and MiG-21s were destroyed.

I don’t pretend to be any sort of expert on the matter, but I really don’t see any logistical similarities to the present hostage situation, which seems far more challenging. So I simply don’t see a successful rescue raid as possible. The choices facing Israel’s leaders are between allowing the hostages to stay under Hamas control and to probably be tortured and even killed because without a deal they are worth nothing to Hamas, or doing some sort of deal.

Given that black-and-white choice, and the enormous amount of pressure (not only from the families of the hostages but from other Israelis too) to make a deal, it’s not surprising that the government would agree to an exchange. So, how bad is this particular exchange under these particular circumstances? I’m not so sure it’s all that bad.

Here’s my reasoning: at this point, the most important factor is whether Hamas is destroyed by Israel. If Israel fails to do that, any refusal to do a hostage deal probably wouldn’t have given Israel much future advantage. After all, if Hamas continues to function, jihadis will do their best to repeat October 7 whether or not terrorists are released for hostages. Hamas has made that clear. So it rests on whether Hamas is destroyed. Of course, to the extent that this deal will make it harder for Israel to do that, it’s a bad deal. But I’m not sure that in the long run, stopping the fighting for a few days will matter all that much. Either Israel has the will and the ability to get the job done or it does not.

Reportedly, the released prisoners in this deal would not – unlike in the Shalit deal – include high-ranking terrorist masterminds. I read somewhere (although I cannot find the source at the moment) that although some of the list of hostages to be released have aided murderers, none have themselves committed murder. They are for the most part teenagers and women – not that that means they can’t be very dangerous, of course. But given the attitude of most of the current Gazan population and how devoted to terrorism and Jew-murder they are, I think that these foot-soldier terrorists on the list could easily be replaced with others if they were kept in prison, so I’m not sure their release will matter all that much. Gaza seems to have a nearly inexhaustible supply. What will matter most of all is whether Israel is victorious in the war on Hamas, and whether it does what needs to be done after that victory to make it less likely that future attacks will happen. I don’t think that depends on whether these particular terrorists stay in prison or not. And if Israel is successful in that endeavor, other terrorist groups might take notice.

I’m trying to look on the brighter side here, while remaining realistic.

[NOTE: A couple of things I had forgotten about Entebbe – if I ever knew them in the first place – were the following:

(1) The 12-person French crew of the airplane refused to be released and chose to stay with the hostages. That’s incredibly impressive.

(2) Israel got help from Jomo Kenyatta’s Kenya, which allowed the rescuers to refuel. “Idi Amin subsequently issued orders for the Ugandan military to kill all Kenyans living in Uganda, leading to the deaths of 245 Kenyan-Ugandans and the exodus of around 3,000 Kenyans from Uganda.” I had not know Kenyans paid such a high price.

(3) Two of the hijackers were German leftists – this guy and his girlfriend – showing early on the link between leftists and Palestinian terrorists.]

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Open thread 11/22/23

The New Neo Posted on November 22, 2023 by neoNovember 22, 2023

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