There’s a theme on the blog today
Terrorism, and the failure to address it adequately, even after all these years.
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Terrorism, and the failure to address it adequately, even after all these years.
I noticed that. 😉
And nothing substantive will ever be done about it.
This caught my attention just now over at The Belmont Club;
The Strange Death of Europe: Immigration, Identity, Islam by Douglas Murray
Thanks for all the research that you put into the posts of these last couple of days, Neo.
As for the fate of Europe, I don’t know yet that it’s necessarily the death of “Europe” as a whole that we need to be talking about. Western Europe, definitely; Northern, probably; but central/eastern, things are not so clear yet to me. The Visegrad Four, Serbia? There’s life in those old birds yet, I think.
About Greece I’m also not so certain, though the demographics are weighty in the scale against them at this point. The thing with Greece is that they have a more durable and solid spiritual foundation than the West has, and they’ve been through a long period of Islamic domination before and survived.
We’re not dealing with terrorism… we are facing jihad.
It’s a wholly different critter.
We are not yet ready to address terrorism with the cure it demands. But we are getting there….
I forgot to ask the other day whether the timing of this last attack had anything to do with the Champions League final, which would have wound up just a little bit before the commencement of the attack, if the report of about 10 pm local is accurate. Consequently, lots of people out and about, on their way home from pubs where they were watching the game, or still in said pubs… distracted, maybe not fully security-aware… maybe the attackers were thinking of these as helpful factors. What do you think?
Serendipitous intersectionality of politics winner:
https://www.city-journal.org/html/run-hide-blame-trump-15240.html
Zakaria claimed that the problem is “ideology,” not immigration. But how will the West’s ability to counter that ideology be improved by bringing in more bearers of it without a better understanding of who is ripe for radicalization? Until we are confident of our ability to screen for radical Islamic ideology in newcomers and their progeny, the rational reaction is to temporarily slow things down.
Zakaria also invoked a study from the libertarian Cato Institute that allegedly shows that there has not been a terror attack on U.S. soil by a visa holder from the six visa-paused countries since 1975. Therefore, the argument goes, the U.S. could not possibly be attacked by someone from those six countries. But just because something has not happened yet does not mean that it cannot happen. The Trump administration chose the six countries on the travel pause list because, as the Obama administration previously declared, they are the most dangerous breeders of radical Islamic ideology on earth. Several of the countries have no functional government at all. There is no reason to think that the U.S. is immune from the North African-generated terror attacks plaguing Europe, especially if the U.S. mimics European immigration levels.
Trump’s proposed visa pause follows the precautionary principle. Supporters of the Paris climate accords use that principle all the time. They accuse critics of the Paris accords of forcing the world to wait until it is destroyed by a tidal wave before it can take action against climate change. Yet many of those same advocates of the environmental precautionary principle would have the Trump administration wait until the country is attacked by a Libyan, say, before it can tighten visa protocols in Libya. But of course, if the Trump administration did wait until after an attack, it would be accused of overreacting to a one-shot incident. And if the travel pause were broader, to take in countries already associated with terror attacks on U.S. soil, it would be lambasted for its even greater racist, xenophobic reach.
I thought Bush was on the right track by taking the fight to the jihadis. At least there were no more attacks during his administration. The jihadis were all in Iraq and getting killed at a rapid rate until 2008 when they migrated to Syria and many back to Afghanistan as they realized they were losing badly in Iraq.
Obama’s drone kill strategy was not effective. Too few kills and too much restraint. In the mean time with Egypt and Libya blowing up, more jihadis were created. The onset of the Syrian civil war revealed that al Qaeda and a new outfit, ISIS, were a growing threat. But Obama did nothing because he believes you create/motivate more jihadis by overtly fighting them. Bush’s offensive strategy put the lie to that.
If 10% of the Muslims are hooked on Wahhabism and Qutb’s “Milestones,” that’s 150 million jihadis or wannabe jihadis. That’s a huge problem. France, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, and Great Britain have allowed many Muslim immigrants and have not insisted on integration. Now they have a large number of Wahhabist jihadis in their midst – many of them citizens. For liberal democracies this provides a knotty problem. How do they protect themselves without becoming police states and/or criminalizing religious tenets?
My preference is for passing laws making advocating for sharia law or Muslim theocracy a crime punishable by deportation to the Muslim country of original origin. Challenge the Wahhabi doctrine. Declare that the West will never accept sharia law, Muslim theocracy, or forced conversion. Call for moderate Muslims to join us in opposing Wahhabism. Be ready to crush Islamist terrorists wherever they try to congregate. They are on offense and we are playing defense. We need to go back on the offense. Too harsh? Well, what’s the answer then?
Philip Says:
June 5th, 2017 at 10:06 pm
You’ve got your premise wrong.
The nations involved are KNOWN to have no control over their passports and other documents.
It doesn’t matter WHAT the internal politics are.
The point is that jihadis can purchase — very easily — counterfeit documents from said nations — and we have absolutely no way of figuring out if those documents are fake.
The ban is actually oriented to the documents… more than Islam, or anything else.
Syria is the worst of the worst. ISIS has the entire suite of document creation presses. ISIS can crank out passports at will.
If anything, the ban is not wide enough, as Turkey is sympathetic to ISIS, as is Qatar, and KSA.
J.J. Says:
June 5th, 2017 at 11:25 pm
ALL of these dynamics are driven by the IMAMS… NOT the man in the street.
ALL Imams must be ejected back to dar el islam. PERIOD.
Islam is whatever they say it is.
The original Arabic of the Quran is unreadable to modern Arabs… let alone anyone else.
( It uses an ancient form of the Arabic alphabet.)
Every one of these jihadis are ‘bots motivated by this or that imam.
“Loyalty Oaths” for Imams? I’d support that.
“not yet ready to address terrorism with the cure it demands.” << yes, we are getting closer.
See Spengler on Sherman's March.
We are in a war — with Islam, especially radical, militant, but also all who support Sharia. Sharia denies Universal Human Rights.
In a war, the losers decide when the war ends. When the losers decide to stop fighting. The winners keep fighting, until they win.
But once a "war" is won, there needs to be a peace keeping force, willing to stop the losers from fighting again. The US failed, due to Democrats, in S. Vietnam to keep the peace after 1973; the US failed, due to Democrats, in Iraq after 2011.
Based on body counts, the current level of terrorism kills far fewer people than auto accidents.
But terrorist jihad is not the same as accidents, and a health society will find them unacceptable, and fight back.
Trump won because, like Grant: "he fights" (Lincoln's reason for supporting Grant).
The U.K. and the rest of Western Europe voted repeatedly to have their countries and lives ruled by the left. The people there are seeing the consequences of their own actions.
My guess is the main result of all this is that the Europeans will go back to their two millennium old script and blame the Jews for poisoning the well.
Tuvea.
WRT yr last graf: I don’t think there are enough Jews left to be much fun. And some of them are probably Mossad sleepers. Not going to be as one-sided as last time.
A Muzzie speaks:
The London mayor, Sadiq Khan, has called on the British government to cancel a planned state visit by Donald Trump after being criticised in two tweets by the US president.
Its kind of funny to sit back and watch people flounder like fish to understand what is happening without the framework to understand what is happening.
take unpacking the empty knapsack. today there are some nasties related to that pedegree, and NOW we dont like them, but how do you remove a dandelion weed that you let grow for 45 years without opposition and NOW you think your going to oppose it, argue agianst it, and say that is wrong? its ESTABLISHED long before a portion of readers were even born!!! (yet you dont see your missing nipping things in the bud by half centuries? thats the funny part)
now, in this, you have been living a world of hegelian dialectical warfare in almost every sphere of your life and its so normalized you forget it exists like air.
The triad thesis, antithesis, synthesis (German: These, Antithese, Synthese; originally: Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis) is often used to describe the thought of German philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel. Hegel never used the term himself. It originated with Johann Fichte.
If i used Fichtian, who would understand me for being right?
[another funny]
and if you know the spam song and how much monthy python made fun of the philosophers, you might recognize this:
No synthesis is possible without a preceding antithesis. As little
as antithesis without synthesis, or synthesis without antithesis, is possible; just as little possible are both without thesis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8huXkSaL7o
Anyway…
the variation the left or communists use is to push down on the thesis and tie it up and make it helpless, while pushing on the anti-thesis, to insure the synthesis is communist!!!!!!
feminism normalized
Man (thesis) Woman (antithesis) end can beuler tell me what the end synthesis is? oh yeah, indistinquishable cattle and equal parts which makes central planning (supposedly possible. after all, the uneveven distributio of talents and abilities means the planner has to take into account what they cant, and if you neuter them all to equally dumb interchangeable parts, then all you need is the elite cadre of the supreme soviet)
White Man (thesis) Women/Minorities (anti-thesis) and since they cant get along your going to need a higher power to make them get along or exterminte (as is already the way its going) the scapegoat problem. how lovely that it will solve a dozen other on the list too!)
White Man & Women (thesis) Minorities (anti-thesis) a, synthesis of the end of the thesis… maybe have professors normalize killing them as in texas, or the various street organizers calling to kill the babies in the hospitals, or the professors saying dont hire them, or or or random attacks they cant defend from (because the oppressed have a right to class hatred against their oppressors (And their oppressors do not have a right to self defense), the first part is feminist k mckinnon)).
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The folks in the UK really are living in a different culture than we have in the USA. They were in two world wars during the first part of the last century where they lost so much of their population and I don’t think they ever really recovered. They learned how to suck it up during WWII with cities being bomb and burned and then they went through post war years of continued rationing. Then they had the religious war with the IRA and kept on moving and now they are in another culture war with the muslims and they will keep on moving except this time the enemy is living openly amongst them and while the local population is stagnate the invaders are growing in numbers.
What a deal because the Royal Subjects of the UK don’t seem to feel the need to take individual responsibility fighting back. It seems to me that their attitude is similar to ours here in the US where we had over 40,000 deaths in 2016 caused by auto accidents yet we are building more roads and don’t hesitate to get on the roads and drive, every day, all hours of the day and we might pass an accident from time to time but we pick up speed and move on.
Another thought I have about what I see as their fatalism is what I saw when I lived in Oklahoma for a number of years and every so often a tornado would sweep through an area. The next day the media would show folks digging out, cleaning stuff up and smiling because they were not dead or in the hospital. The attitude was kind of stuff happens but what the heck, this is Oklahoma and they move some more mobil homes in which most of us know are magnets for tornados.
While we think the terrorist attacks are unacceptable and some of us carry guns most of the time in case we are targets those in the UK see things from a different perspective and I guess they are thinking, stuff happens so let’s get on with life.
I am glad I live in Texas in an area that is too far South for tornadoes, I drive defensively like an old grandpa, don’t want to be in the next 40K accident deaths and don’t think attacks by Muslims are just part of life.
and this is where the left socialist communst, fascict, maoist, trotskyite, anarchist, feminist, racialist, fabian, progressive and the usual many names of evil, lie to the public about… big time.
in his monumental Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States,
Father of American Jurisprudence Joseph Story clarified the meaning of
the First Amendment with regard to the priority of Christianity:
[I]t is impossible for those, who believe in the truth of Christianity, as a divine revelation, to doubt, that it is the especial duty of government to foster, and encourage it among all the citizens and subjects….
Indeed, in a republic, there would seem to be a peculiar propriety in viewing the Christian religion, as the great basis, on which it must rest for its support and permanence, if it be, what it has ever been deemed by its truest friends to be, the religion of liberty.
Probably at the time of the adoption of the constitution, and of the
amendment to it, now under consideration, the general, if not the
universal, sentiment in America was, that Christianity
ought to receive encouragement from the state, so far as was not
incompatible with the private rights of conscience, and the freedom of
religious worship. An attempt to level all religions, and to make it a matter of state policy to hold all in utter indifference, would have created universal disapprobation, if not universal indignation (1833, 44.723-726.3.3.1865-1868, emp. added).
Indeed, the First Amendment was never intended to “level all religions”
(and Islam can hardly be stylized “the religion of liberty”). Story
further explained that:
the real object of the [First] amendment was not to countenance, much less to advance Mahometanism, or Judaism, or infidelity by prostrating Christianity; but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects
and to prevent any national ecclesiastical establishment which should
give to a hierarchy the exclusive patronage of the national
government(1833, 3:728, emp. added).
C’mon guys, there is a huge wealth of information they are playing you for because very few know it
how many people here even know of Joseph Story? (evne if they saw amistad!!)
A cornerstone most dont know exists, and dont bring up in the current argument and have no idea what was said about islam in it and other religions, immigration and more… but its a cornerstone.
i can put out 100 really critical names that most here dont know unless they remember i brought them up…
you want to win a war with academics you better know the literature, as they wont listen to YOU, they will only listen to the previously dead you speak with… (kind of like an academic version of aliens using the radio by switching the dial to speak (though wouldnt it be much easier to just xmit a signal than somehow taking control of a physical dial remotely?))
you think you know conservativism, but what about Joseph story? Neo never brought him up despite her and him being lawyers and he being a cornestone of constitutional law…
Think carefully because the left claims white men of conservativism are racist, but what about Story and amistad??
Justice Story was one of the most successful American authors of the first half of the 19th century. “By the time he turned 65, on September 18, 1844, he earned $10,000 a year from his book royalties. At this point his salary as Associate Justice was $4,500.”
and how many know of this most successfu author from the first half of the 19th century?
Notre Dame: Man shot by French police after ‘terror’ attack with hammer and knives
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/06/parisians-told-avoid-notre-dame-amid-reports-explosion/
French police have shot a man outside the Notre Dame in Paris after he tried to attack them with a hammer, according to the interior ministry. He was also in possession of two knives. One policeman was lightly injured in the attack.
The main square has been evacuated and a police operation is underway. Paris police say the situation is now “under control”.
Anti-terror prosecutors have launched an investigation meaning they consider the attack terror-related.
Another feminist patriot:
Its the communist traitor trifecta!!!
and when the neo-vichey regime ends (she and others help create), do we shave their heads again?
Arfldgr, I keep trying to understand Hegelian dialectics, though it makes me feel icky (is that cognitive dissonance, or a valid reaction?) Why does it seem to be used mainly as a propaganda tool of the left?
Would negating, or at least undercutting, the theory of opposites diffuse the Hegelian technique? The opposite thing is endless. Once a synthesis is achieved, something else would be it’s opposite…. (ack. I hate the existential spiral thing.)
There’s an old axiom in terrorism: when the percentage of population that supports the terrorists is higher than 5%, there’s no way to stop it. Right now, the percentage of Muslims if higher than that, so what’s happening is predictable (and was predicted).
Most of terrorist groups in Europe (like the IRA) vanished because population didn’t support them anymore. That is not gonna happen with Muslim terrorism. And while the percentage of Muslims in Europe grow, the strength will grow. In a few decades, we won’t be talking about terrorist groups, but about military organizations that control the land.
http://blog.godreports.com/2015/09/how-islam-takes-over-countries/
So, basically, let’s enjoy the current situation. Our children won’t have stabbings: they’ll have militias, widespread killings and ethnic cleansings. So let’s enjoy that all that happens by now is just some terrorist attacks. Next decades, it’ll become much worse.
blert: “ALL of these dynamics are driven by the IMAMS… NOT the man in the street.”
True dat. Though what does it say about the man in the street when he can be whipped into a murderous frenzy by an imam? Methinks many of them are of a mindset to accept such agitation. ‘Tis a part of their honor – shame culture. Another reason why they are so difficult to integrate into Western cultures.
Richard Aubrey,
The fact that there aren’t many left on the mainland hasn’t stopped Europeans from refocusing their Judenhass at a tiny country on the other side of the Mediterranean Sea.
HINT: I’m not referring to Lebanon.
“The way to win the war is to frighten the larger community of Muslims who passively support terror by action or inaction—frighten them so badly that they will inform on family members.” – Spengler. This approach works every time it used, as Stalin proved.
Tuvea. Yeah, but while they can blame the Jews of Israel, there’s not much they can actually do to them.
The goal of the anti Zionist activists of my acquaintance (yuck) is to foment an Arab revolution and incite a worldwide effort to destroy the state of Israel.
But, otherwise, whatever. Seems Europe may be facing a situation similar to Israel. We’ll see how they handle it.
Alas, the virus has also become firmly embedded in the US:
As demonstrated by the the NYT’s Roger Cohen’s endorsement of Jeremy Corbyn…
…and this latest obscenity from the geniuses at “Shakespeare in the Park”:
http://www.mediaite.com/trump/senators-stab-trump-to-death-in-central-park-performance-of-shakespeares-julius-caesar/
And this is how it is done: the drip-drip-drip of toxic hatred until the entire body politic has been poisoned (and people wondering, “How did this happen?”)…
http://www.theaugeanstables.com/2017/06/06/caliphate-cogwar-lethal-own-goal-journalism-and-bds/
The Augean Stable article is eye opening, thanks
“Imagine all the people”… (Sorry John L.)
Imagine a massive effort by the three most powerful nations of the world to take out this cancer. The USA, Russia, and China uniting their military might, giving fair warning to ISIS
havens to clear out innocents, and then doing what needs to be done.
“Imagine all the people”… (Sorry John L.)
Imagine a massive effort by the three most powerful nations of the world to take out this cancer. The USA, Russia, and China uniting their military might, giving fair warning to ISIS
havens to clear out innocents, and then doing what needs to be done. Forget Europe, they’re not going to help themselves.