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  1. As I understand it, the legal standard for an insanity defense in Massachusetts is whether a mental defect deprived the defendant of either: (i) the capacity to know that their actions were wrong; or (ii) the capacity to act according to the law.

    That standard isn’t the same as postpartum psychosis, and I think that’s the root of a lot of confusion. It strikes me as eminently possible that a person could be both suffering from postpartum psychosis AND fail to meet the legal standard for not guilty by reason of insanity. My best evidence for this supposition is neo’s point that only 4% of people suffering from postpartum psychosis murder their children.

    Now is it just for a person suffering from postpartum psychosis to also be criminally liable because they failed to meet the standard for an insanity defense?

    When the big picture is considered, its difficult to say no. There are many, many people who have a more difficult time following the law than others, whether its due to genetics, culture, the way they were raised, mental conditions that no one would consider to constitute legal insanity like depression, etc.

  2. From what I read in the trial transcript, Clancy only claimed to have a single psychotic episode, the one in which she killed her children, and did not have one before or since.

    Jennifer Sprague (01:11:03): You also state in another article identifying malingering with Dr. Phillip Resnick, you point out that the rapid resolution of symptoms with medication can be a red flag as genuine psychotic symptoms usually take longer to subside, correct?

    Phillip Resnick (01:11:23): That’s correct.

    Jennifer Sprague (01:11:28): Were you aware from the Tewksbury records that on page 1136, it says Ms. Clancy has been clinically stable since her admission. There have been no events of effective cognitive or behavioral instability since her admission. And that Ms. Clancy has not evidenced any challenges in accepting and conforming to the rules and standards. Did you review that note?

    Phillip Resnick (01:11:55): Yes, I’m aware of that.

    Jennifer Sprague (01:11:55): Okay. Were you also aware on page 1168 that it says Ms. Clancy denies that she has ever experienced hallucinatory content prior to or since that event, referring to when she killed her children, correct?

    Phillip Resnick (01:12:10): Yes.

    Jennifer Sprague (01:12:13): And you’re aware on page 1170, it states Ms. Clancy presents with intact reality testing and no observable symptoms of psychosis. She’s actively engaged in treatment. She’s able to identify possible hopes for her future, including serving as an activist for postpartum psychosis awareness and participating in a wheelchair marathon. Were you aware of that?

    Phillip Resnick (01:12:36): Yes.

    In addition, she described a command hallucination that did not tell her specifically what to do (only the outcome), and that appears to have never returned after she delivered that outcome. The voice did not tell her how to kill her children, did not tell her to dissemble to her husband on the phone, to extend his errand, to take the children to the basement, to lock the basement door.

    People who experience command hallucinations a) frequently do not obey them, and b) obeying the commands does not make them go away.

    Dr. Gregory Saathoff (06:54:31): Well, what was significant to me is that she had not spoken about hearing voices before that in any of the mental health professionals, the psychiatrists, the nurse practitioners, the physicians and staff in the emergency departments or at McLean. And so this was the first time that she reported, that was documented, but also that she experienced an auditory hallucination, according to what she told me. So that was unusual. And then also what was very unusual was the fact that the voice stopped with the strangling of her youngest son, Callan. And that she went upstairs and then proceeded to engage in behavior in an effort to kill herself, but that the voice had stopped as soon as she had strangled her last Callan, her youngest child.

    Jennifer Sprague (06:56:13): If I could stop you there for a moment and ask you, you said that it’s unusual that this was the first time that she had heard this voice. Why is that unusual?

    Dr. Gregory Saathoff (06:56:30): Well, she had certainly suffered with symptoms of mental illness, depression and anxiety most specifically. Anxiety that she had reported to Dr. Tufts in mid-September. And then certainly symptoms that later on included suicidal ideation and also what she said were dark or intrusive thoughts to harm her children that she mentioned to her husband and her mother on, I think, two occasions.

    Jennifer Sprague (06:57:18): And Doctor, you also mentioned that it was unusual that the voice stopped after Callan was killed. Why is that unusual?

    Dr. Gregory Saathoff (06:57:33): Well, I’ve worked with… Compared to other patients that I’ve treated who have had command auditory hallucinations-

    Speaker 15 (06:57:47): I’m going to object to that, Your Honor. Same objection was raised before.

    Judge (06:57:50): Counsel, can I see it?

    Jennifer Sprague (07:00:13): Doctor, based on your training and experience in dealing with diagnosing and treating people who have psychosis and what you’ve learned in all your training and schooling, is it typical for someone in psychosis to hear a voice only one time, never before and never after?

    Dr. Gregory Saathoff (07:00:35): No.

    Jennifer Sprague (07:00:37): And again, based on your training and experience, is it typical for someone in psychosis to hear a voice that’s constant rather than intermittent?

    Dr. Gregory Saathoff (07:00:50): No, that is not typical.

    Jennifer Sprague (07:00:52): And what does it mean, the difference between a constant voice and an intermittent voice?

    Dr. Gregory Saathoff (07:00:58): Well, an intermittent voice would come and go. It wouldn’t necessarily just keep playing over and over again as if it were on a tape, which Ms. Clancy told me that it was a voice. It’s the same thing in the same tone, repeated over and over and over until she had strangled Callan.

    Jennifer Sprague (07:01:30): Is it typical, based on your training and experience, for someone to hear command hallucinations and then for them to stop abruptly?

    Dr. Gregory Saathoff (07:01:40): No. Committing the act is not curative of the voice. I’ve not ever seen that.

  3. In my view, the issue isn’t really whether she was suffering from psychosis or not.

    I mean, it is important to determine whether she understood what she was doing at the time to determine whether she spends the rest of her life in prison, or the rest of her life in a hospital, but the true issue to me is that someone who is capable of murdering their own children with their bare hands, regardless of whether while perfectly lucid or while in the throes of psychosis, cannot be trusted to be free in society ever again.

    Let’s just say I don’t have enough confidence in the field of psychiatry and mental health to just accept it when some shrink says “she’s cured, she can be around your kids and grandkids now”.

    She has proven she is capable of ultimate evil. No psychiatrist in the world can absolutely guarantee that she will never succumb to psychosis and be driven to murder again. Therefore, she should never set foot outside an institutional setting for the rest of her life. Whether her room in that institution has bars or padding on the walls is irrelevant to me.

  4. As I said, I wasn’t primarily writing about the Clancy case.

    And yet, just to respond to some of the above comments, Clancy’s mental health issues were not limited to postpartum psychosis. Nor does psychosis preclude planning, nor a single episode in a person otherwise very deeply disturbed (she was also bipolar, for example).

    Plus, as I’ve written before, in Massachusetts she does not have prove this. The prosecution has the burden of proof to prove she was not. It’s a very high burden for the prosecution, not the defense.

    The post is about the phenomenon of postpartum psychosis.

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