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  1. The actual working class people of the US have been a bitter disappointment to their never did an hour of honest labor rich socialist saviors for over 100 years.

  2. I’ve never seen any evidence that wage-earners in the United States are, for the most part, motivated by abstractions. Things palpable to them in their daily lives are important, but the connection between those things and public discourse can be fuzzy and obscure.
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    Abstract from their daily lives, people from all walks of life can be motivated by antagonisms (just and unjust). The Democratic Party seems to have a lock on blacks, Puerto Ricans, California Chicanos, and single mothers.
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    I’m recalling some observational research James Q. Wilson and a colleague did in Boston in 1966. In interviews with ordinary residents, ‘poverty’ was a topic hardly mentioned. The number one concern was street crime. Interviewing city hall officialdom, ‘poverty’ was what concerned them. Per Dr. WIlson, there was a complete disconnect between city hall and the street. It wasn’t bridged by electoral politics.
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    I suspect if you spoke to a probability sample of wage earners, you’d discover that the vocational development of the young and how modes of sorting the labor market have extended dependency are a concern, that street crime and general public disorder is a concern, that the surprises and confusions which attend visits to doctors and hospitals are a concern, that elements of schooling are a concern (disciplinary issues and crap peddled by wokerati teachers), that the condition of public works is a concern, that the terms of mortgage lending are a concern, that property taxes are a concern.

  3. I was at Columbia in 1968, and noticed the same phenomenon among the most radical lefties. They also had no appreciation of the labor involved in everyday civilization, street lights, cars, windows, that sort of thing. Marx used the labor theory of value, but few of his followers labored.

  4. What really catches my attention is the guy’s age. He’s almost 40 and has not accomplished a single productive thing in his life.

  5. @ Neo > “I think there’s a certain logic to someone from this sort of background becoming a socialist. For them, the connection between earning money and buying things isn’t necessarily part of their “lived experience.” That does not mean that all or most people from such backgrounds become socialists; plenty do not. But a significant number of socialists do seem to have that sort of background. Perhaps becoming socialists is the only way they can feel virtuous without actually refusing their parents’ money.”

    Never having to pay your own bills or earn your own way certainly leads to the “money just exists” outlook of most socialists, especially those who believe they can exact infinite levels of taxes from the wealthy because they “just happened” to get rich.
    Somehow.
    Had to be oppression and theft.
    Because how else do you get money?
    It’s the only thing they ever learned to do, in the form of whining and mooching.

    (As always, Eric Blair aka George Orwell is a notable exception; there were more working socialists in the old days, it seems to me.)

    Your speculation about internal motivation is possible, but I suspect that there are multiple layers of “reasoning” that create socialists out of social parasites.

    I note that Gustavo Gordillo’s “career” is a pale precedent for Jason Arday, but definitely of the same ilk: lie about anything and everything.

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