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Open thread 10/21/2026 — 42 Comments

  1. When you import the third world eventually you become part of it. Whereas if you are in the third world you can leave that behind, if your ruling class wants to do it. In the UK the ruling class didn’t even want to stay in the first world.

    Wankers. They have found how much ruin is in a nation (it is them).

  2. My life is too short to listen to a 34min video or to be annoyed by double-speed. ChatGPt’s summary:
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    Their central message is that many changes are normal, but they shouldn’t automatically be dismissed as inevitable or untreatable. Maintaining physical activity, good nutrition, adequate sleep, and metabolic health can help preserve independence and quality of life.
    The eight changes
    1. Changes in taste and smell (0:36)
    – Taste buds and olfactory nerves may deteriorate with age, reducing the intensity of flavors.
    – People may compensate by adding more salt or seasonings.
    – Medications can alter taste directly or cause dry mouth.
    – Significant changes in smell deserve medical attention, particularly because declining smell can sometimes accompany neurological disorders.
    2. Changes in sleep patterns (3:27)
    – Older adults frequently become sleepy earlier and wake earlier.
    – Reduced melatonin production, changes in circadian rhythms, sleep apnea, medications, and nighttime urination can disrupt sleep.
    – The doctors emphasize restorative sleep rather than obsessing over hours recorded by sleep trackers.
    – Regular sleep schedules, daytime activity, and bedtime routines can help.
    – They caution against routine use of strong sedatives, particularly benzodiazepines, because of next-day impairment and fall risks.
    3. Increased anxiety about health and mortality (8:24)
    – Aging often brings greater awareness of illness, physical limitations, and mortality.
    – Excessive worry can become counterproductive. Fear of falling, for example, may discourage exercise, ultimately increasing weakness and fall risk.
    – The physicians distinguish reasonable attention to health from obsessive preoccupation.
    – They recommend maintaining perspective, preparing for foreseeable problems, and focusing on what can be controlled.
    – Stoic philosophy is offered as a useful approach.
    4. Infections may produce unusual symptoms (13:14)
    – Older adults may not develop the familiar signs of infection, such as fever or painful urination.
    – Urinary tract infections, pneumonia, and other infections may instead be accompanied by fatigue, weakness, or sudden confusion.
    – Age-related changes in immune responses can make infections harder to recognize.
    – Sudden changes in mental status warrant prompt medical evaluation.
    5. Slower walking speed (16:41)
    – Loss of muscle mass and power, declining balance, vision changes, and medication effects can slow walking.
    – Some gait changes may indicate neurological conditions such as Parkinson’s disease.
    – The physicians stress the importance of continuing to walk and maintaining leg and core strength.
    – Walking regularly matters more than maintaining youthful speed.
    – Sudden or substantial changes in gait should be evaluated.
    6. Reduced sensation of thirst (22:09)
    – Aging can diminish the brain’s thirst signals, making dehydration harder to recognize.
    – Some older adults deliberately limit fluids to avoid nighttime bathroom visits.
    – Dehydration can contribute to low blood pressure, dizziness, kidney problems, and increased medication side effects.
    – Suggested warning signs include dark urine, lightheadedness when standing, and reduced skin elasticity.
    – The doctors encourage regular fluid intake throughout the day, adjusted for heat, activity, and medical conditions.
    7. Thinner skin and easier bruising (26:26)
    – Skin loses collagen, elasticity, and underlying fatty tissue with age.
    – Small blood vessels become more vulnerable to injury, so minor bumps can produce substantial bruising.
    – Aspirin, anticoagulants, and steroids may worsen bruising or skin fragility.
    – Skin tears are particularly concerning because they can be difficult to heal and may become infected.
    – Unexplained or extensive bruising deserves medical assessment.
    8. Changes in temperature regulation (30:13)
    – Aging affects sweating, skin function, circulation, and temperature regulation.
    – Older adults may become unusually sensitive to heat or cold.
    – Some medications can contribute to temperature intolerance.
    – Extreme temperatures pose greater risks because the body may not respond as effectively.
    – Appropriate clothing, hydration, and attention to environmental conditions become increasingly important.
    Additional discussion: Normal forgetfulness versus dementia (19:36)
    The physicians make a distinction between ordinary memory lapses and potentially pathological cognitive changes.
    Ordinary forgetfulness More concerning changes
    Misplacing your glasses Forgetting what glasses are for or how to use them
    Forgetting an item at the grocery store Forgetting that you went shopping
    Occasionally forgetting a name Forgetting how to perform familiar daily activities
    Their central point is that difficulty performing familiar activities is generally more concerning than occasionally forgetting information.

    However, these examples are illustrations, not diagnostic tests. Forgetting to put on glasses alone does not establish dementia.
    Overall recommendations
    The physicians repeatedly return to five practical measures:
    – Stay physically active, including walking and strength training.
    – Maintain healthy eating habits and metabolic health.
    – Protect sleep quality and consistency.
    – Stay adequately hydrated.
    – Avoid allowing health anxiety to dominate everyday life.
    They advocate minimizing unnecessary medications and favoring lifestyle measures where appropriate.ssible.

  3. Up to a point, Kate. My mother died at 93 and was independent her whole life. However the last few years dealt with Afib and other issues. The day before she died in the hospital she told me, “I’ve had enough and just want it to end”. After what I’ve been through I have a much better understanding of that attitude.

  4. Kate:

    You’re welcome. This is typical of a lot of YouTubes for me. It’s sensible stuff, but not much meat on the bone I didn’t know.

    Chat say it also includes a pitch I didn’t include above:
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    Commercial interests: The program includes advertisements for the physicians’ own wellness supplements, hydration products, and metabolic-health program. That commercial involvement is worth bearing in mind when evaluating their recommendations.

  5. It’s no fun being old and fragile yet here I am at 81 years old and I am often healing up bad spots where I have banged into hard stuff. My right arm slid against a desk three weeks ago and peeled several layers of skin and now it is finally healed up, which is great. My doctor laughs at my bad spots, kind of like an old banana and he says, “Aren’t you glad you lived this long and you’re in decent shape?” and he’s right. I have had cancer three times over the years, last on over ten years ago and I am working on one kidney that had cancer and we got it. Getting old and being careful to avoid falling and banging into stuff is an every day part of life. My wife and I also take care with what we eat and I did my walk early this morning when it was 60 degrees outside which is a treat in Texas and I am enjoying this cooler weather which took a long time to move in.

    All the stuff in the video about being over 60 makes sense about not peeing dark yellow and getting enough electrolytes and a fast way to make cramps go away is pickle juice. Just common sense stuff is the best way to handle this older age some of us are living and we tend to know more folk who have moved on while we are blessed to still be around. Thankfulness is important and giving thanks to our Lord seems to be the right way to approach each day. Good luck to all you all as you enjoy each birthday moving on along.

  6. Old age has been great for me. Found some extra heart beat a few years or so ago, going for some audio (?) heart scan next week and then see Doc for the yearly heart check. PSA was up to 7.8 last blood test and a few weeks ago had some mpMRI thingie done on the prostrate—Monday was a “fusion biopsy of the prostate”. Yes, this 80 yo body is in the process of dying but life seems to keep getting better—perhaps that’s how someone came up with the “golden years” term. I could only watch a few minutes of the vid…

  7. Anyone here read Walter Isaacson’s biography of Elon Musk? I just started it yesterday.

    Wow. I can’t recall the last time a book so quickly absorbed my attention. (Stay tuned to the end, because I’ll tie this into the Bee Gees.)

    It’s not so much that the writing is great*, or entertaining. It’s that Elon Musk’s life is so unusual. I’m just to the point of his first marriage, so he’s about 30 years old.

    His parents and grandparents are incredible people. His mother’s parents were like a real life Mr. and Mrs. Baron Munchausen, or Mr. and Mrs. Indiana Jones. If Hollywood made a movie featuring the exploits of Winnifred Fletcher and Joshua Haldeman the writers would be called to task for a screenplay that is too fantastic to be believed. Elon’s mother’s Maye’s childhood was extraordinary.

    Elon’s father, Errol, is a mad mix of cunning and talent and maliciousness. The stories of his brutality are heart wrenching when one thinks of Maye and the kids. Yet he also does some incredibly magnanimous and positive things for his children. Maye and Errol raise their children in a “free range” manor that would be shocking even to those of us who grew up before the era of helicopter parenting. Especially shocking since they raised their kids in neighborhoods where lions and other predators roamed equally free. This appears to be the norm in South Africa in the ’70s and ’80s, however Maye and Errol seemed to be even more on the extreme than other, South African parents.

    And growing up in South Africa?! “The Lord of the Flies” is a garden party in comparison. The brutality and hardship Elon Musk endured before moving to America at age 18 is difficult to comprehend.

    The book is not a hagiography in any sense, but I have to say, I really like the young Elon. The Elon from birth to age 30. He is amazingly driven, persistent, mature and caring. He is incredibly supportive of his family. He is very personally driven, but thus far, every step of the way, with everything he achieves he takes time to reach back and pull his family up with him.

    I’ve read several biographies of Mozart. Musk so far reminds me of him. Both are unquestionably unique geniuses. They both have exceptional DNA and an innate drive to use it to its fullest. However, both their childhoods involved really overbearing, forceful people making them endure incredible difficulties. As long as Mozart grew up somewhere where he eventually had access to a piano, or violin, it seems he would have got into the profession of music performance and composition. He had a gift that almost certainly would have been uncovered, even if his father was a farmer. But Mozart’s father was not a farmer. He was a talented musician and composer who drove his daughter and son to practice music and made them show ponies at a young age. Leopold Mozart puts the mothers on “Toddlers and Tiaras” to shame. Would Mozart have been “Mozart” without such an overbearing father and without so much pressure to provide for his family at a young age? It’s almost certain Elon Musk would have made a living as an Engineer or computer programmer (same thing) no matter how he was raised. When Compaq bought his company, Zip2, and Elon walked away with $22,000,000 at age 28 would he have rolled it all into another, risky company had he been raised differently? Would he have founded Zip2 if he had been raised differently? When he graduated from Penn he had offers from Wall Street where he would have surely made a nice, safe, and very lucrative living in Finance. Without the abuse and neglect he suffered would he have turned down those offers and pushed himself to be more successful, faster, sooner?

    I often wonder the same about the Bee Gees. Like Elon and his siblings (his brother, Kimbal, was an especially close partner during Elon’s early years) the Bee Gees grew up in a wild, frontier outpost and were supporting their family at an early age. Has any musical act been more successful, longer than the Bee Gees? Did that endless drive to keep going, no matter how much money or fame they attained come from those early days, as children, when they literally sang for their family’s daily bread?

    *Nothing wrong with Isaacson’s style, but it’s somewhat pedestrian, which isn’t inappropriate for a biography. Reading a biography of Elon Musk by James Joyce or William Faulkner would be a slog.

  8. Rufus T Firefly: I haven’t read the Musk bio, but I read Isaacson’s Benjamin Franklin bio and thought it was excellent.

    I’ve also read a few Mozart bios, and take your point, though I think there’s no comparison between the two fathers. Errol Musk seems to be a psychopath and allegedly abusive. Leopold Mozart seems to have been more of a Tiger Dad, having recognized his son’s amazing talent, and controlling, but not pathological. Mozart continued to write many letters to his father after he moved to Vienna. Leopold disapproved of his marriage to Constanze, but still visited him in Vienna few years later. My impression is that Elon has cut ties with his father.

  9. > My life is too short to listen to a 34min video

    Exactly my thought at about the second minute. They left out grumpy.

  10. AFP:

    US embassy staff and families ordered to leave Saudi Arabia, with families of embassy staff in the United Arab Emirates, Jordan, Qatar and Bahrain also ordered to leave, diplomatic source tells AFP

    https://x.com/AFP/status/2112987418152284605

    Prophylaxis, in a word. The mullahs, I take it, are showing their itchy trigger fingers.

  11. What a fine mess you have made trying to preserve the SCOTUS as an institution Chief Judge Johnny? The progressive justices seem to want to burn it all down. In order to save it, of course.

  12. Well, yes, physicsguy, very often people who suffer repeated illnesses and physical restrictions find the final illness to be a release. This was certainly true for my brother-in-law who died last month. Nobody should have to endure what he did.

    But for those of us still reasonably active and having our minds reasonably intact, dealing with the minor problems of aging beats the alternative.

  13. Jimmy, yes, the Musk boys have cut all ties with their father. Isaacson has mentioned that, but I haven’t gotten to the point where that occurs. Right now, Errol is attending Elon’s first wedding and the boys recently gave him $300,000 when they sold Zip2. Isaacson has spoken with Errol a great deal in researching the book. Errol sounds like quite the chatter box. And Errol disputes statements Elon, Kimbal, Tosca and their mother Maye state about his cruelty, but in areas where Isaacson is able to independently verify accounts Errol is the liar, thus far.

    Regarding Leopold Mozart, have you read his letters to Wolfgang in the last, several years of Wolfgang’s life? They go way beyond Tiger Dad. He blames Wolfgang for Anna Maria’s death (Leopold’s wife, Wolfgang’s mother). The trip to Paris where Anna Maria got sick and died was Leopold’s decision and very much against Wolfgang’s wishes. Also, Leopold was the one who insisted Anna Maria travel with Wolfgang. Yet, for the rest of Wolfgang’s life Leopold completely falsely and harshly blames Wolfgang for Anna Maria’s death. Then, Leopold basically forces his daughter, Maria Anna to be his slave and care for him, turning her against Wolfgang. If that isn’t enough, Leopold is constantly writing hyper-critical letters to Wolfgang focusing on his, Leopold’s needs and criticizing almost every musical choice Wolfgang makes. He hates the two women Wolfgang fell in love with and interfered to stop him from seeing the first and tries to stop him from marrying the second. Although Leopold likely has decent savings from his own career he continually chastises Wolfgang for not giving him more money while Wolfgang now has his own family to support. Leopold is a lot more than a Tiger Dad. He’s a narcissistic jerk.

  14. My mother can no longer feed herself. I saw her yesterday with my son. She has requested no more visitors and physician assisted death. My son said his final goodbye and left for LA this morning. I also said my final goodbye just in case she refuses any more visits. She is not living, she is existing. My brother has not informed my sister yet.

  15. Speaking of Mozart, I just got out of the matinee performance of Don Giovanni at the Lyric Opera.
    It was wonderful. Any fellow Chicagoans out there, I highly recommend.

  16. Very sorry to hear that Chases Eagles. I’ve been there. In fact I genuinely have a phobia about living too long. Everyone in my family seems to live to an advanced age, and it’s terrible.

  17. It’s not always terrible. Two of my grandparents died at 93 with only minor problems for a few months before death. The trouble is that we don’t know if it will be easy or hard.

    Chases Eagles, my condolences. Your mother could make this easy by simply refusing to be fed. It won’t take long.

  18. Chases Eagles, sorry. I went through something similar with my mother a couple of years ago. She was 98, when she passed, but the last few months were mere existence, as you put it. She had a strong will to live, but the infirmities of age overcame that.

    RTF, thanks for that info about Leopold. I knew only some of that (like his blaming Wolfgang for the mother’s death). But I was referring more to Wolfgang’s seemingly respectful feelings for his father despite all that, albeit from a safe distance.

  19. My father died in 2019, and my mother fell and shattered her leg during the Covid scare of 2020. She was transported by helicopter to the mainland and never returned to her home which was sold about a year later. She became a complete invalid about two years ago and for the past year has been fed by private nurse. She has been moved around by hoist for the last two years but she can barely speak and is very difficult to understand and is now refusing her meds.

    Thank you for your kind comments. This I think is a release for her.

  20. Chases Eagles, my condolences on the situation you are facing.

    My mother aggressively fought newly-discovered lung cancer in the last 5 months of her life, but the onset of pneumonia sapped her determination, and (IMO, based on timing and her own comments) she chose to let go and move on to the next world.

    That was in September 2010 and we still miss her, but understand that she had no desire to just exist without being able to continue the activities she enjoyed.

  21. My condolences, too, Chases Eagles, for you in your mother’s final days.
    It is never easy.

  22. My condolences to you and your family, Chases Eagles. It is hard losing a parent even if it is time.

    OldTexan, you have a wonderful attitude towards aging. Though not that much older than myself. I am impressed that you have survived three bouts with cancer, I am finding more people who have successfully survived multiple cancers though sadly I’ve also lost some friends to it. I was recently diagnosed with Hodgkin’s Lymphoma and am undergoing treatment for it. Fortunately that is less aggressive and well understood so the prognosis is good, just trying to get through the chemo right now.

  23. Chases Eagles:

    So sorry to hear of your mother’s experiences. Sounds so hard.

    I was once on a hospice team watching over a beloved member of the congregation dying of cancer. I remember the day he refused to continue eating.

  24. Neil Bush voted for Talarico.

    Neil Bush, the younger brother of former President George W. Bush, said Wednesday he voted for Democrat James Talarico, defying his family’s GOP legacy in the battleground state.
    […]
    The Bush family are no fans of President Trump. Mr. Trump famously helped to crush the 2016 presidential aspirations of ex-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who is Neil Bush and George Bush’s brother.

    He quickly dropped out of the Republican primary, tagged with Mr. Trump’s nickname for him, “Low Energy Jeb.”

    Former President George H.W. Bush voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, according to reports.
    […]
    Mr. Bush’s Facebook followers had a mixed response to his announcement.
    […]
    Danny Stevens said he couldn’t understand Neil Bush’s decision to back Mr. Talarico.

    “He’s going to vote in line with the most radical Democrats. His values are diametrically opposed to any Republican’s values by definition,” Mr. Stevens posted.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/oct/21/neil-bush-citing-opposition-trump-votes-democrat-james-talarico-texas/

  25. @ Richard Cook > “This puts a final period to the Royal Navy. Not even hope remains. There had better be a plan to take control of the UK’s warheads when the Muslims take control.”

    I guess I will have to give away all my Horatio Hornblower novels, and the Master and Commander series, since they are no longer representative of the United Kingdom aka Saxonistan.
    Depending on how elections go, the UK may just ship their nukes directly to Iran.

  26. @ Selfy > “Neil Bush voted for Talarico.” and “Former President George H.W. Bush voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, according to reports.”

    I suspect all three brothers voted for Hillary over Donald.

    Some people think the US is not governed by two fundamentally opposed parties but rather one uniparty with some internal disputes over a few policies, a matter more of degree than of kind.*

    The Bush family certainly inclines me to that opinion, and we could add a few more prominent nominal Republicans to that club.

    Since 2024, and hopefully continuing, the size of the GOP branch of the club is shrinking.

    However, if the DSA does take control of the Democrats’ offices, some of the current club members may find themselves on the outside of both Parties.

    *See my comment about Teddy Roosevelt vs Wilson.
    https://thenewneo.com/2026/10/20/obama-knows-exactly-what-hes-doing/#comment-2867564

  27. Re AesopFan at 3:10 am
    Yes, Sundance calls it the Uniparty, a bird with a left wing and a right wing. He also calls the Republicans the Generic American Party, or G.A.P.

    Trump certainly isn’t a traditional Republican. I’m not sure what he is, a Populist I suppose? Three things about him – he loves his country, has common sense and testicular fortitude. I don’t know how he does it at his age!
    I saw this picture of him Wednesday, and he sure looks tired:
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/oct/21/trump-brings-rally-south-carolina-boost-darline-graham-senate-race/

    It seems like the parties are realigning: maybe into Evil Party (D) and Not So Evil Party (R)?

  28. “Serial rapist, cosmetics heir in California walks free despite 124-year prison sentence”

    California prison authorities have released convicted rapist and cosmetics heir Andrew Luster, igniting strong opposition from local leaders after he served roughly 20 years of his original 124-year sentence.
    […]
    California law did not treat drugging and raping a victim as a violent offense until 2024.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/oct/21/serial-rapist-cosmetics-heir-andrew-luster-california-freed-despite/

  29. AI can be real handy if you’re looking at some medical results on your portal. Ref my October 21, 2026 at 2:40 pm comment on a “fusion biopsy of the prostate” Monday—I couldn’t make heads or tails about what it was saying in the portal. Used MS Snipping Tool and snipped a pic since I couldn’t just copy it.

    Claude AI confirmed Google’s AI Mode info on the pic — ‘The short version: The biopsy found prostate cancer, and it’s an aggressive (high-grade) type. It was found on both sides of the prostate … Perineural invasion (sample H) means cancer cells were found along a nerve. This suggests the cancer may be more likely to spread beyond the prostate … Aggressive prostate cancer is serious, but it is often treatable, and many men live for years with it, especially with modern hormone and radiation therapies. The staging results will shape the plan.

    It/they go into more detail but too technical for me…three AIs all said about the same things from that simple pic I had no clue what it meant. Like 3 years ago PSA result was normal. Guess I’ll be busy with Docs and tests for awhile…yuck!

  30. Process of a body dying 😉 — seems the eyes started going at 60-65 (with cataracts removed 2-3 years ago), teeth started falling out around maybe 70-75 (14 pulled last year for full dentures), and PSA blood tests started going up last year or just before also. Not too bad tho—discovered sex again at 80 and also medical marijuana for ‘Pain’ this year. I’ll probably update this process in this thread—as it proceeds.

    PSA was up to 7.8 last blood test and a few weeks ago had some mpMRI done on the prostrate—then Monday 19th a “fusion biopsy of the prostate” was done. Took a Snipping Tool pic of the report on my Doc’s portal for me and AIs called it right…for the most part. They missed the Doc’s recommended PSMA PET scan tho. 13 biopsies and seven were a 9 outta 10 which is apparently bad (?).

    PSMA PET scan (with CT???) will be scheduled at UF Shands hospital. ‘For most men it replaces the separate bone scan and CT, and it’s more sensitive than either one.’ It checks to see if the prostrate cancer has spread…if I understood the Doc correctly. Depending on that result, treatment will be removal of prostrate or radiation or radiation plus hormones or hormones…and maybe doing nothing (?).

    New term today also: Nurse Navigator. Yeah, nurses are no longer just nurses there are apparently all kinds of nurses and this is a new one for me.

  31. Karmi:

    Good luck with it all. I’ve known men who lasted many many years – fairly healthy ones – with metastatic prostate cancer.

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