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  1. Surprised you didn’t mention the guilty verdict for $7.2 million in fraud that the Judge decided to toss out saying the verdict was reached on pure hearsay evidence. The jury thought the evidence was sufficient.

  2. Minnesota, like the ancestral Scandinavian countries of many Minnesotans, was once a high-trust society. In Minnesota, that trust has been exploited by immigrants from both Somalia and Chicago. In Scandinavia, the immigrants are mostly Muslims from the Middle East and Africa.

    In both Minnesota and Scandinavia, the immigrants come from low-trust tribal societies. They’ve brought a plague of crime and corruption, and they’ll eventually destroy the societies they at first exploit. Denmark has started to send asylum-seekers back home, but rebuilding a high-trust society is almost impossible. As the saying goes, you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. The economy crashes, the schools collapse, the funding for corruption becomes scarce, and the parasites look for a new host.

    Eventually, everybody ends up homeless, on the streets in LA, voting for Gavin Newsom, again and again, with absentee ballots.

    It’s the day after Thanksgiving, and I’m coming down from the tryptophan.

  3. You don’t get assimilation when you settle so many “refugees” in the same cities and states. That creates ghettoes where the foreign culture carries on. And if it’s a culture of corruption, which the Somali culture is, fraud and worse happens.

    I am a great believer in freedom of religion. A person’s relationship with God should be whatever that person thinks is best. However, I also believe that religion and politics should be separate. Render unto Caesar etc. Unfortunately, Islam in its worst form is a political belief in the supremacy of Islam – an aggressive hate-filled mix.
    So, Muslims must be very carefully screened and kept out if they show any allegiance to Islamism.

    I applaud Trump for wanting to rationalize our immigration system after the flood gates were opened by Biden and Co. It will take time and patience. There may be as many as ten million illegals that should be deported. Not going to happen overnight.
    And the Dems will fight him every step of the way.

  4. So the leftwing media have shifted the goalposts from “without evidence” to “without proof,” which is tacit admission that there is lots of evidence. It’s pretty much the norm that accusations are made without proof. Indictments only require evidence; proof is established at trials.

  5. In re Somalian crime stats: miguel linked to this post by El Gato Malo on a prior thread, but I’m putting it up again for the sections relevant to this post.

    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/backing-up-the-shark-truck

    at a certain point, statistics are statistics and this is not happenstance. when you bring in large groups and they time and time again commit crimes at outlandish rates, attack others, engage in violence, and rob your social systems blind, past a point only a fool fails to notice.

    it’s been astonishing to watch the somalis plunder the systems of once high-trust minneapolis. covid, PPP, food bank, now fake autism, they just keep finding ways to defraud hundreds of millions out of every public program they get near. it’s systematic and deliberate.

    and it’s not an isolated outcome.

    Followed by the screencap of a tweet from Denmark, and the chart showing how Somalian immigrants are run-away champions of criminal acts, in a very crowded field.

    https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ktd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82ebbd64-9283-4c13-80b7-6ef567bcb012_762x1412.png

    to ignore outcomes like this and like “huge numbers of these immigrants do not work, do not assimilate, live off the state, and are demolishing schools and other social institutions” takes a severe form of willful blindness.

    “62% are convicted of a violent crime by age 30.” you can’t miss that unless you’re trying to. and i suspect many of the globalists and NGO’s pushing this “they didn’t do nuffin’” narrative are, indeed, trying to. it’s why they so rapidly devolve to howling “racist” and “phobic” at anyone who points this out.

    there is purpose to this. folks like soros and soros junior with his new terrifying alignment to the clinton clan and the other davosian plotters are seeking to use the once successful immigration policies of the west as a trojan horse to demolish it and tear its institutions to pieces.

    they flood you with low-trust, high-violence, high-criminality people from a non-integrateable culture, call it “diversity,” and then no [not] only undo your own police and justice systems to make it impossible to hold such people to account, but actually turn them upon the citizenry such that getting a beating or a rape from an immigrant gang draws little response but making a meme about it lands you with cops at your house.

    nothing about this is an accident.

    He reaches an ominous conclusion, which has been echoed on numerous blogs I’ve read, and may be reaching a critical ignition point.

    it’s all pro-criminality and lawlessness, a seeming attempt to create situations so intolerable and riddled with crime and outrageous behavior that it swamps systems.

    as i have discussed before, this is how marxist assault begets authoritarian response. it essentially closes off all other avenues of effective action for high-agency people and eventually the dam breaks and the “men who just wanted to be left alone” cross a rubicon that cannot be easily uncrossed and destroy those who sought to destroy them.

    this is where i think the fundamental miscalculation of the current american left lies. they think “trump is literally hitler.” he’s not. trump is the soft option, the last, easy, centrist path. block that and that’s how you give rise to “the american pinochet” or a bukele.

    and make no mistake, that can and will happen.

    if you force high-agency people who want to live in the ordered emergent peace of a high-function social contract to choose between the rights of criminals and the safety of and opportunity for their children, that choice can only ever go one way and if you create a situation so intractable that only jackboots, authoritarianism, and throwing marxists out of helicopters can fix it, that is exactly what you’ll get.

  6. When I was an undergraduate engineering student, one of the grad students in the department was from Somalia. He wrote an interesting article for the campus paper about growing up in Somalia. I recall that a teacher who was a Peace Corps volunteer was a positive influence. I complimented him in the lounge on the article.

    But he apparently disappeared from the scene. The article in the campus paper was supposed to be the first of several, but it was the only one. The next semester, overwhelmed by the workload of Senior lab, I lost touch with students not in our cohort, so I didn’t inquire about him at the time. That Senior Lab semester was also my last semester.

    In recently checking online , I found out that he did not get a Master’s degree, as his name didn’t appear in any subsequent commencement documents. Ditto that he wrote only one article for the campus paper. I wonder what happened to him.

    I wonder if any enterprising journalist has asked the Somali Congress critter from Minneapolis what she thinks of the rampant corruption in the Somali community.

    lawlessness…as i have discussed before, this is how marxist assault begets authoritarian response…block (the easy centrist path)…you give rise to…Pinochet..

    What many forget about the “democratically elected” Allende was that he was a minority President who governed as if he had a majority. He knew he did not have majority support, so he resorted to fait accompli and legal flim-flam to achieve the hundreds of nationalizations that took place. Which is why, three weeks before the coup, the Chamber of Deputies passed a resolution by a 81-47 vote (63%) that essentially asked for a coup.

  7. Corruption is daily life in many parts of the world, OK probably most of none 1st world countries.
    I would advocate fraud potential was baked into the system, 1 to even the playing field as Marxists want to do. And 2nd the bureaucracy is grown to dish out that fraud. It just doesn’t get handed out by machines.

  8. “there is purpose to this. folks like soros and soros junior with his new terrifying alignment to the clinton clan and the other davosian plotters are seeking to use the once successful immigration policies of the west as a trojan horse to demolish it and tear its institutions to pieces.”

    Can anyone explain this to me? WHY would Soros, or Soros-like people want this? Why would they want to demolish the west and tear its institutions to pieces? What do they get out of that? Is it honestly to make everyone (except themselves) equal? Is it really because they want more “justice”? They think “society” is to blame so they have to tear down that society (and replace it with WHAT?).

    There has to be a reason.

  9. The combination of imported foreign criminals and domestic quislings is fatal. America as we knew it is dead; many of us just haven’t noticed it yet.

  10. Physicsguy: One possible answer: (Some men just like watching the world burn.)

    I don’t think it’s “the world” to them; it’s “your world.” For many past a certain level of wealth (300 million, perhaps), their world is well-separated from and very distinct from the world everyone else lives in. If your world burns, they won’t get even a whiff of smoke.

  11. Neo, I would so much appreciate that. It’s a question that has baffled me for a long time. I understand idealistic young people (and even some older ones who never grew up, like some of my fellow boomers), but I fail to see how “tearing down western civilization” helps the majority of people.

    And I also never hear what they want to replace it with. Some form of socialism, done the “right way”? Totalitarianism because they’re power-hungry? I have read a lot about Soros over the years trying to understand, but I certainly can’t see him (or his son) running the show from some perch.

  12. gwynmir,

    George Soros is known for his significant role in the 1992 currency crisis, known as Black Wednesday, when he bet against the British pound, leading to its devaluation and the UK’s exit from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM). His actions earned him a profit of approximately $1 billion and the nickname “the man who broke the Bank of England.”

    In the Obama years I heard the theory he had taken a similar short position on the U.S. dollar and was trying to profit off the same technique, here.

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