The COVID vaccine and cancer treatment
Surprise! The COVID vaccine may enhance the effectiveness of certain cancer treatments; see this:
Cancer patients who received mRNA COVID vaccines within 100 days of starting immunotherapy were twice as likely to be alive three years after treatment as those who never received a vaccine
These findings have prompted a randomized Phase III trial to determine if mRNA COVID vaccines should be part of the standard of care for this type of therapy
If validated, findings could significantly increase the number of patients who benefit from immunotherapy.
There are plenty of people who cite the vaccine as having an enormous number of bad effects. I’ve written countless posts on this blog refuting the evidence against the research they cite to supposedly prove this. The exception is myocarditis – which I’ve also discussed at some length, and is a danger which has been known for a long time for young men who receive the shot. Every study I’ve found of other serious effects of the vaccine either does not say what anti-COVID-vaxxers purport it says, or has a research design so poor as to make it meaningless. I’m not going to go over this territory again right now, but it’s all on the blog, some of it here but much of it in the comments.
I’ve never advocated the vaccine for children or healthy young people, however. Nor have I ever felt it should be required. Each person should make his or her own decision about it, and I am fine with a decision either way.
ANY intramuscular injection “wakes up” the immune system. An obvious question would be, did they compare those who received the COVID shot with those who received a shot of anything else (even sterile water)?
Another medical study that equates correlation with causation. The medical community never seems to learn. Though such studies often lead to more grant money. Cui bono.
physicsguy:
I don’t see that at all. Did you read this part?:
They are not even saying that the shots help. They are saying they need to do further studies that are more rigorous. They are well aware of the preliminary nature of this study.
RCP:
I’ve never heard that every intramuscular shot “wakes up” the immune system except in regard to the specific disease being immunized against, or closely related diseases (smallpox and cowpox, for example). Nor have I heard of this happening with sterile water. Please provide a link for your assertion.
What’s more, in Phase III trials – which are planned in this case – the intervention is tested against a standard treatment, often with the addition of a placebo. A placebo in this case would most likely be a sterile shot of some sort.
Let us not forget that mRNA “vaccines” would not have been so widely and quickly distributed, and their use compelled by law but for the Chinese-American (yes, I blame us, specifically the weasles like Fauci and his partner-in-crime Daszak) partnership that was experimenting with gain-of-function virology in a lab with less than adequate safety protocols. I still am skeptical of pretty much everything that comprises the “standard narrative” related to Covid19.
In other words, the Phase III trial — likely including a sterile water shot — has not yet been done. We shall see.
**** “reactogenicity” **** is the topic.
I did not know this might be a controversial subject. I am not an expert in this area. I thought it was medical “common knowledge”. >> The following article was found quickly – re the necessity to sort out what patient reactions are caused by the vaccine material and what patient reactions are caused by the mere fact of getting an injection:
>> “A double-blind study conducted in 581 twin in Finland illustrated this problem.4 One twin received measles-mumps-rubella vaccine (MMR) fol. lowed by placebo injection 3 weeks later, while the second twin received the injections in the reverse order. The study showed that during the time of peak incidence of fever, 88% of low-grade fever, 24% of moderate fever and 7% of high fever episode”s were not caused by the vaccine. These observations highlight the importance of an appropriate control group (such as placebo) in clinical trials in order to be able to untangle which proportion of signs or symptoms might be caused by vaccination.” Hervé C, Laupèze B, Del Giudice G, Didierlaurent AM, Tavares Da Silva F. “The how’s and what’s of vaccine reactogenicity.” NPJ Vaccines. 2019 Sep 24;4:39; https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6760227
>> The discussion perhaps most famously came up up about those who did not want to get a COVID-19 shot but were willing to get a flu shot.
>> Conlon A, Ashur C, Washer L, Eagle KA, Hofmann Bowman MA. “Impact of the influenza vaccine on COVID-19 infection rates and severity. ” [studied 27,201 patients] Am J Infect Control. 2021 Feb 22:S0196-6553(21)00089-4; https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33631305 ; “… Influenza vaccination is associated with decreased positive COVID-19 testing and improved clinical outcomes and should be promoted to reduce the burden of COVID-19.”
>> Taghioff SM, Slavin BR, Holton T, Singh D. “Examining the potential benefits of the influenza vaccine against SARS-CoV-2: A retrospective cohort analysis of 74,754 patients.” PLoS One. 2021 Aug 3;16(8):e0255541; https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8330918 ; “… Our analysis outlines the potential protective effect of influenza vaccination in SARS-CoV-2-positive patients against adverse outcomes within 30, 60, 90, and 120 days of a positive diagnosis. Significant findings favoring influenza vaccination mitigating the risks of sepsis, stroke, deep vein thrombosis (DVT), emergency department (ED) & Intensive Care Unit (ICU) admissions suggest a potential protective effect that could benefit populations without readily available access to SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. …”
>> That is as much as I know. It is possible I have misunderstood — but, as I said, I thought this was medical “common knowledge” — that the injection of any foreign body “wakes up” the immune system.
If this study turns out to be valid, we’ll find out whether the joke about Trump is true: that if he cured cancer, progressives would complain that he was depriving oncology nurses of their paychecks.
RCP:
No, those studies don’t indicate that. They are either about side effects of the vaccine itself, or about vaccines for an illness with similar symptoms (flu and COVID) – and in the case of the latter, the results of the study you cite (a relatively early one, 2021) was for the most part not repeated in later studies. For example, see this. The crossover effect really does not seem to happen.
If you read the article I cited in the post, on the COVID vaccine and immunotherapy for cancer, you’ll see that there are some specific reasons why they think this particular vaccine might enhance the success of that particular type of cancer treatment. It remains to be seen whether further study will indicate the effect is real.
I fell ill only hours after my first (and only) Covid Vax injection.
This was in September, a month after ragweed season ends in Seattle, where I’d flown from abroad specifically to avoid exposure to seasonal allergens.
I stayed sick for three weeks, mostly with bad ragweed allergy symptoms. I could only suppose that Covid-Vax amped up my already overly reactive immune system
Therefore, this new finding connecting cancer immunotherapy with the Vax makes sense to my experience. Footnote: 4 or 5 months later, I contracted rge Omicron variant, lasting a mere 6 days of sickness.
First, I must object to them description of the Covid shots as vaccines. They’re not vaccines. Anyway…
Was a regular blood donor. Never had a problem. Got the Pfizer shots in 2021. Three weeks later, while giving blood, the puzzled workers had to stop the donation.
My blood was clotting in the collection tube.
This was before I’d even heard that the shots caused anomalous blood clots.
Two or three years later a friend who had also been a regular blood donor said the same thing happened to him.
We were walking time bombs.
Anecdotal? Perhaps. But I won’t be risking the clot shot again.
I’ll stick with my anecdotal evidence of very bad outcomes for many people of varying sex, age and health conditions–post shot.Not to mention the draconian means of threathening us, personally, on the most fundamental levels for not lining up for the shot–which would have without question killed my husband who has a virulent reaction to any corona virus. I refuse to forget. To say in my opinion, that the scientific research community has sunk to the level of the MSM in terms of trust of information would be accurate. A big “no thanks” on anything MRNA for this family.