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Macron seems to think it would be just great to reward the Palestinians by giving them a state — 38 Comments

1. Where turnabout is fair play, the Israeli on the battlements shouts down at Macron — “I fart in your general direction, your mother was a hampster and your father smells of elderberries!”

2. I asked Grok:

   What has been the French govt reaction to the 50 French kids ejected from their fight home in Spain and their chaperone roughed up?

   Grok replied:

   The French government’s reaction to the incident involving 50 French children being removed from a Vueling flight in Spain and their chaperone being mistreated has been notably limited based on available information. There have been no prominent public statements or official condemnations from key French authorities, including President Emmanuel Macron, Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot, or other high-ranking officials, as of July 25, 2025. Some sources indicate that French consular services may be providing assistance, but no specific details about the nature or extent of this support have been publicly disclosed. Posts on X reflect frustration over the lack of a robust response, with users questioning why the French government has not demanded investigations or issued stronger statements regarding the treatment of its citizens, particularly minors. However, one X post suggests that French diplomacy may be acting behind the scenes, though no concrete evidence of such actions has been reported.Without official statements or verified reports from French authorities, the response appears subdued, and public sentiment on platforms like X indicates dissatisfaction with the perceived lack of action. Further details from primary sources, such as French government press releases or statements from the French embassy in Spain, would be needed to provide a more comprehensive picture.

3. Macron polls in the 20s in France. Le Figaro’s latest number is 19%.

   https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/macron-hits-record-low-only-19-of-french-1753037319.html

   He polls better internationally. He has less than two years left as President. He may be thinking in terms of his legacy as an international leader, as well as throwing a bone to the substantial Muslim population of France.

   Another useless European.

4. Murder, torture, abduction, and terrorism in the pursuit of social justice is no ethical vice.

   That said, all’s fair in lust and abortion… a double-edged scalpel.

5. Macron is a clown. He lists a ceasefire first among his demands, then the release of all hostages. Israel would have ceased firing long ago if Hamas had released all the hostages.

6. Jordan still, with cause, rejects the two state solution. Hamasidols are not welcome there, in Israel, but, are, apparently, in Democratic blue states, previously Republican blue states of union origin.

7. Israel would have ceased firing long ago if Hamas had released all the hostages.

   “If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.”
   Benjamin Netanyahu

8. Gazans Are Dying of Starvation – The New York Times https://share.google/BxM7hODYsJY0DlwRE

   As has been noted frequently, the disinformation will never stop.

9. If Macron continues in power for much longer, people will be wanting to create a homeland for the French.

10. Related…if one wishes…

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/412249

11. Hamas is the “burden” of the people at both ends of the bridge. Abort.

    The Hamasidols and good will choosers need to take a knee to mitigate progress before a viable reconciliation can proceed.

12. Continued…

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/412233

13. Gaza is already a state, look what they did with it, judea and samaria as the other flank is frankly insane, why would we reward another kleptocracy, as the hamas emirate has proven to be, of course, the ban lieus are their own bases for an islamic state,

    do they still have the kabuki of 100,000 troops deployed, since 2014,

    I’m surprised an islamic party like that which has arisen in Belgium hasn’t appeared,
    time will tell,

14. A solid argument can be made for the return of the guillotine with Macron as the first politician to briefly experience its renewed use.

15. Is Macron’s announcement possibly related to the recent Knesset resolution for annexing Judea and Samaria?

    Maybe the Knesset does this every so often, I don’t follow them enough to know.

    The Knesset approved a non-binding motion in favor of annexing the West Bank on Wednesday, a symbolic gesture that united the otherwise fractious right-wing governing coalition.

    The resolution, which passed 71-13, declared that the West Bank is “an inseparable part of the Land of Israel, the historical, cultural and spiritual homeland of the Jewish people” and that “Israel has the natural, historical and legal right to all of the territories of the Land of Israel.”

    It called on the government to “apply Israeli sovereignty, law, judgment and administration to all the areas of Jewish settlement of all kinds in Judea, Samaria and the Jordan Valley,” the government’s term for the West Bank. The motion was advanced by Religious Zionism MK Simcha Rothman, Likud MK Dan Illouz and opposition Yisrael Beytenu MK Oded Forer….

    Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’s deputy, Hussein al-Sheikh, called the annexation vote a “dangerous escalation that undermines the prospects for peace, stability and the two-state solution.”

    Sheikh also called the vote “a direct assault on the rights of the Palestinian people,” who ostensibly would not receive equal rights to their Israeli settler neighbors in a scenario where Jerusalem annexes the West Bank.

    Urging the international community to intervene to roll back Israeli “violations,” the senior Palestinian official said countries should recognize a Palestinian state in response.

    Macron’s announcement came a day later, so perhaps it is intended as a response to the Knesset. Or maybe it’s coincidental. The Times of Israel articles about Macron’s announcement describe people saying that maybe Israel should annex the West Bank in response to Macron, without acknowledging its own reporting on what the Knesset vote just was before Macron’s announcement–but our media does that same kind of thing all the time, I don’t know if it means anything or not.

16. A useless gesture at a useless institution.

17. yes, but he has shown plenty of foolishness before hand, frankly I though we had started on the wrong path when he started diplomatic relations with the PLO in the 80s, this was something the Dem’s left wing were all in on, in the ’88 convention,
    Foggy Bottom seems rather blind to prologue, see Noel and Moore, that interlude was cut short by an attack by another splinter Palestinian faction, then when the Oslo hudna happened then it was more make believe, in the subsequent decadethere was more mischief, France’s diplomatic and what passes forintelligence service, despite the Paris Metro, bombing

18. Macron is just another post WWII jackass leftist PM. Since his country will be Muslim soon thanks to Macron, I hope France’s 400,000 Jews along with the 56 remaining Christians get out before it’s too late.

19. sdferr 2:43pm – that would be pointless, the French regard all those as compliments.

20. Niketas:

    Macron’s announcement has no relation to anything the Knesset has done recently. Macron has been yapping about this since at least early April. See this from April 9:

    French President Emmanuel Macron said on Wednesday France could recognise a Palestinian state in June, adding that in turn some countries in the Middle East could recognise the state of Israel.

    “We need to move towards recognition (of a Palestinian state). And so over the next few months, we will. I’m not doing it to please anyone. I’ll do it because at some point it will be right,” he said during a interview on France 5 television.

    “And because I also want to take part in a collective dynamic that should also enable those who defend Palestine to recognise Israel in their turn, something that many of them are not doing.”

    Macron’s vision: “Oh, let’s recognize Israel because Macron recognized Palestine! That’s the ticket!” say all the countries accusing Israel of genocide.

21. How does this mesh with the other announcement (last week, I think) that France would accept all Palestinian asylum claims, something like that?

22. Re; Macron funsies

    Rumors are that Macron’s wife, Brigitte, is trans! Here in the US, Candace Owens is leading the charge.

    The Macrons are suing in France and in the US. They lost the first round in France, but the case has gone to France’s highest court. In the US the case is 22 counts of defamation and false light against Owens.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/23/france-macron-brigitte-candace-owens-defamation-transgender-lawsuit.html

    I don’t take this seriously. But after Macron’s Palestinian state stunt, I don’t mind having some fun at Macron’s expense. It does put Brigitte’s slapping her husband a few weeks ago in a different light!

    Nonetheless, it is true that Brigitte was Macron’s teacher and started a relationship with him when he was 15 and she was 39. Kinky enough in my book.

23. @neo:Macron’s announcement has no relation to anything the Knesset has done recently.

    I think that’s likely; I’ve been going back through older articles and both Macron’s announcement and the Knesset’s resolution were in the hopper, so to speak, for some time, and the timing of each announcement may well be coincidental.

    Or maybe all parties are reading the news about each other more carefully than I have been and are all reacting to each other’s moves, but either way, neither the Knesset’s resolution nor Macron’s announcement have come suddenly out of the blue.

24. Israel is asserting it’s territorial integrity, as France surrenders theirs, neighborhood by neighborhood, in the countryside, there is a clear contrast with the banlieus, among the intelligentsia, that seems to predominate Melanchon’s party, they seem blithely aware of the former’s concerns, like camp of the saints, is the desired state because colonialism 60 years after Algeria declared independence that seems to be a moot point, but se le guerre

    yes these are very silly people in their own right, like the trudeaus, although carney seems to be something worse, as is starmer

    there seems a synergy of all of the worst attitudes not only in Europe but across the pond among ruling classes as far down to Australia, New Zealand seems to dodged that bullet for now tim blair’ law they called it

25. @huxley:Rumors are that Macron’s wife, Brigitte, is trans! Here in the US, Candace Owens is leading the charge.

    Pretty stupid rumors and Candace Owens is a pretty stupid person. But free speech is not just for smart people, and it’s pretty bad if Americans can’t speak freely about foreign politicians.

    I think my defense would be that under American law it does no harm to anyone’s reputation to say that someone is transgender. It might be false, but it’s not defamatory. (Is being transgender bad all of a sudden? I thought they were stunning and brave and deserved to win athletic trophies and win Academy Awards.)

    Saying that a 39-year-old teacher had a relationship with a 15-year-old student would certainly damage that person’s reputation, but in this case it happens to be true and is also not defamatory.

    I am reminded of how progressives gleefully accuse conservatives or Republicans of being gay, as though being gay is a shameful thing, when we all know they think no such thing. I’d like to see Macron argue in a US court that being transgender is so bad that it is defamation if someone falsely says you are transgender.

    I think I’d also like to see a US court find that Candace Owens is too dumb to understand that a woman who has borne three children cannot have ever been a man, and therefore not liable for any of the stupid things she says.

    Oh there’s plenty to go around on this one.

26. As Ihave pointed out before, there has never been a country called Palestine. It’s an imaginary country like wakanda and the palestinians art the imaginary citizens. I suppose the palestinians ar going to open an imaginary embassy in Paris.

27. Well he’s French!

28. Maybe I’m misinformed, but haven’t the Palestinians repeatedly rejected a “two-state solution” ?
    “From the River to the Sea” doesn’t mean two nations living in peace and Harmony.

29. Macron is also advocating demilitarization of Hamas/Palestine.

    It is also necessary to ensure the demilitarization of Hamas, secure and rebuild Gaza. Finally, it is essential to build the State of Palestine, ensure its viability, and enable it, by accepting its demilitarization and fully recognizing Israel, to contribute to the security of all in the Middle East.

    I doubt that Hamas or Gaza would accept demilitarization. Note that Macron is implicitly accepting the statement that demilitarized Palestine means peace, and demilitarized Israel means the death of Israel.

    richf

    Maybe I’m misinformed, but haven’t the Palestinians repeatedly rejected a “two-state solution” ?
    “From the River to the Sea” doesn’t mean two nations living in peace and Harmony.

    Indeed.
    AWRAD: Public Opinion Poll – Gaza War 2023 – Tables of Results November 14, 2023

    Table 33: Do you support the solution of establishing one state or two states in the following formats:
    Two-state solution for two peoples 17%
    A Palestinian state from the river to the sea 75%
    One state solution for two peoples 5%

    From the river to the sea means Jew-free. (judenrein)

30. France is close to Islamic majority.. 2 generations should do it. Palestinians reject a two state situation as they are committed to murdering all Jews worldwide. Jordan accepts S and rejects the Palestinian state but recognises Israel. Macron is a dick

31. @Stewart :France is close to Islamic majority.. 2 generations should do it.

    Really? Currently only ~10% of the French population is Muslim.

    I guess one can jigger the numbers of native French births vs Muslim to get the 2 generations result. But practically speaking I don’t see those numbers working out.

32. But the demographic balance skews against the native population, the preponderance of births come from newcomers

33. Re: Brigitte Macron trans? / Candace Owens

    Roger Simon has a column somewhat in line with my previous comment.

    He was about to throw his support to the Macron suit against the trans claim, but then M. Macron said that stupid thing about Palestine.
    _______________________________

    I was going to write a piece supporting the lawsuit of Emmanuel and Brigitte Macron against the sociopathic Candace Owens for her having repeatedly claimed, or more exactly proclaimed, that Mme Macron is a male. This is more than the usual clickbait grandstanding on Ms. Owen’s part. It seems actually sadistic in its motivations because so personal. It’s not the kind of thing a decent human being does without genuine evidence, which Owens has never remotely evinced, no matter what you think of the other person….

    Nevertheless, in the midst of writing the article, President Macron has once again—or should I say “encore une fois”— proclaimed his support for a Palestinian state, this time targeting an official September announcement at the UN (where else?).

    Ms. Owens and her ceaseless craving for attention is relatively meaningless in the grand scheme of things (e.g. the world outside X) but the idea of a Palestinian state after the October 7 atrocities is nightmarish to contemplate. It would be like having a culture of misogynist homicidal rapists for your neighbors.

    My interest in defending the Macrons instantly disappeared after his announcement and this piece morphed into why I think the French president (and many European leaders) take the positions they do.

    https://thecontinentalcongress.substack.com/p/mayday-mayday-mayday-this-is-hollywood

34. FWIW….

    ‘Recognizing “Palestine”: A core violation of international law;
    ‘International law is not a suicide pact. Ipso facto, Israel has no legal obligation to carve an enemy state aggressor from its own still-living body especially when recent recognition of “Palestine” by four major states misses larger justice issues altogether…’—
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/412291

35. Go over there and smack him around. You can take him.

36. Related?

    ‘”It’s up to us, the French”;
    ‘In September 1938, French Prime Minister Edouard Daladier, along with the UK Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain sacrificed Czechoslovakia to appease Adolf Hitler, evil dictator of Germany. How did that work out, Mr. Macron?…’—

    By Prof. Robert Scott Kellner

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/412349

    Friedrich Keller (the above author’s grandfather):
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Kellner

37. I ran across this quote recently:
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    How can you govern a country which has 246 varieties of cheese?

    –Charles de Gaulle
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    He’s got a point. 🙂

38. What are the Macron recognized borders of the Palestinian state?

    Israel should recognize the Gaza border state portion as its own, separate, third of three states. Recognize it and declare war on it, and demand Unconditional Surrender.

    In the meantime, while waiting for the Hamas surrender / recognition that won’t be coming, they should be establishing better long-term occupation institution building, especially in markets.

    Various powerful land as-viscious-as Hamas clans, as gangs, will have a lot of on the street influence. There is already one in Rafah, according to some reports.

    It’s not too late to create a Swiss-Singapore 5 canton city state in Gaza, and that is Israel’s best option for Peace.

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