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Open thread 9/2/21 — 30 Comments

  1. Clapton’s song has been accessed 1.675 million times on YouTube in the 6 days it’s been posted. The comments (over 17,700 of them) are particularly interesting because of the number of different languages represented: Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, German (lots of German comments), French, Polish, etc. Comments in English come from Israel, Brazil, Denmark, and Italy as well as from the Anglosphere itself. I can’t help wondering how long the song will be up before YouTube pulls it.

  2. This resonates enormously with me. The music, lyrics, and visuals. Eric Clapton gave us a real gift in this.

  3. I can’t help wondering how long the song will be up before YouTube pulls it.

    I imagine that as much as the powers that be at Google/Youtube may want to pull it, they may also be just smart enough to comprehend that actually doing so would almost certainly have the opposite effect that they desire. That is rather than silencing dissension against the global elite technocrats it would likely further anger and galvinise their “customers” (products) against them.

  4. The story behind the Clapton song:
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    “I took the first jab of AZ and straight away had severe reactions which lasted ten days. I recovered eventually and was told it would be twelve weeks before the second one,” Clapton said in a letter to architect and anti-lockdown activist Robin Monotti Graziadei, which was shared with Clapton’s permission.

    Clapton, who received the AstraZeneca shot in February, added that he was later offered the second dose after six weeks, which he accepted only because he had “a little more knowledge of the dangers.”

    “Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks, I feared I would never play again,” Clapton wrote.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/eric-clapton-slams-vaccine-propaganda-after-experiencing-disastrous-side-effects/ar-BB1gPT02
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    He’s also not keen on lockdowns.

    Clapton and Roger Daltrey (the Who) can be depended upon for bloke POVs compared to the rock world.

  5. The song is better than I expected, though not primo Clapton.

    My impression is, as musicians age, their melodies and hooks weaken. Their songs become sing-songy.

  6. I’ve noticed more media stories about ivermectin and its use for C19. The wording is generally negative, citing it as a animal deworming medicine and not for human use. However, the drug has been used since 1981 for a variety of parasitic diseases in humans.

    Of course the dosage amounts are very different for humans vs animals. And, I wonder how many people realize that warfarin (Coumadine) was first used a a rat poison in 1948 and then approved for human use as a blood thinner in 1954.

    The FrontLine Covid alliance website discusses the various studies of Ivermectin in C19 cases. https://covid19criticalcare.com/ .

    It seems that the government is pushing the vaccines and not really looking at treatment options for when the vaccines don’t work. DeSantis was criticized when he announced treatment sites using the monoclonal antibody treatments as a way to decrease hospitalizations. Of course, the gov’t got on the bandwagon a few days later.

  7. huxley:

    I’ve noticed that too about aging songwriters. I was surprised that this song is quite good.

    I think a lot of Leonard Cohen’s songs in advanced old age were very good, though.

  8. Biden must be thrilled that the hoopla over the Texas Abortion law has taken focus away from Afghanistan. It’s something he can use to get some of his base back on his side after some of them have no doubt wavered.

  9. huxley, neo,

    I think a person only has so many great songs in them no matter how brilliant. This runs the gamut from McCartney to Willie Nelson who both continue to pump out new material. I say more power to them for still having the passion for music but I’m not really interested in the new stuff.

    I think this song resonates beyond the vaccine issue to the vaccine passport thing and how it is going to affect concerts and live music and all those who rely on that industry to make a living. It’s insanity that has no endpoint.

  10. Two minutes, learn to speak Bidenese. Hysterical
    https://twitter.com/realJoelFischer/status/1432505305213120514

    TX abortion protest: “Attendees at the ‘My Body, My Choice’ event must provide proof of vaccination” (apparently this is real, not made up). A popular meme going around says something like “If you can force me to get Stabbed, then I can force you to keep the baby”

    Demonization of Ivermectin as “horse medicine” is insultingly racist. Not only did it win a Nobel Prize but it’s saved millions of Africans from river blindness.

  11. Ivermectin departs from AND contradicts the Narrative(TM).
    The same is true of HCQ+zinc and other medications used to manage the virus.

    From their point of view, far better that people suffer and die.
    (Especially if you can pin it ALL on Trump and his Deplorable(TM) supporters. And especially if it enables you to CONTROL entire populations and create massive dependency on “your friend the government”….)

    Far better?
    Actually, it’s an IDEAL situation!!

    They’re killers. Cynical, methodical, lying, manipulative, politically motivated murderers.

    And they’re not finished.

  12. I agree that although it might have been the vaccination issue that prompted Clapton to write the song, it’s about liberty in general and the current push to encroach on it in myriad new ways.

  13. And they’re power hungry. Insatiably so.

    Currently embroiled in a “problematic” issue by the name of Afghanistan (along with all the other crises they’ve intentionally manufactured) they’re revving up the Distraction to end all Distractions—en route to deploying the strategy that they are convinced will OBLITERATE their enemy: the American people and the country in which they live.
    https://justthenews.com/government/congress/thuhouse-select-panel-investigate-jan-6-pushes-limits-partisan-politics-new

  14. Around the same time the song was released Clapton announced he would NOT perform at venues which required a vaxx passport, iirc. So I think it’s not a “might” have prompted but in fact did prompt him to write the song.

    I myself have been commenting here fairly vociferously about vaxx passports and the like lately. It’s because about a month ago I attended a “once a month” meetup of NorCal conservatives. We went around in a circle talking about our number 1 issue at the present time. Every single one of the “kids” (under 40) were troubled by the vaccine. Us old people all worried about Big Issues (like Afghanistan would be today). But the vaxx was hitting our younger contingent hard. They didn’t want to be pushed around but didn’t know if they could hold out if they refused and, say, lost their job.
    It occurred to me then that we oldsters need to support the younger folk … thus my focus.
    The younger you are, the less clear it is that you need to be vaxxed. However, the younger you are, the bigger the impact if you stand up and refuse the vaxx.

  15. JimNorCal,

    I have a younger family member that is being forced to get the vaccine for his high paying construction job because the company does state jobs and in WA King Jay has decreed that all state jobs must be done by fully vaccinated crews.

    He’s in his late 20s and by the way he had a verified ‘case’ of Covid (mild of course) several months ago but no matter.

    This is a much bigger issue for younger people than maybe the demographics of the commenters on many right leaning sites.

  16. Ivermectin is used to prevent river blindness in Africa. It has been used in humans from its Discovery. River blindness is caused by a worm. Ivermectin is Not used in humans much in the US since we have fewer Parasite diseases because of food safety and sanitation practices.

  17. JimNorCal:

    Yes, younger people have more reason to be vaccine hesitant because COVID itself is far less likely to harm them. I happen to think that, all else being equal, if I were young I would still choose to be vaccinated. But that should be the individual’s choice, not a mandate.

    I think if people work in nursing homes or hospitals and won’t be vaccinated, that’s a bit iffier, though. They are among vulnerable old people all the time, and although the old people are vaccinated they are still somewhat at risk for contracting COVID and getting a bad case.

    But construction jobs? A vaccine mandate there seems absurd to me. And the state making the mandate is more dangerous than a private company such as a nursing home deciding for itself whether to require it or not.

  18. neo,

    I do agree with you about nursing homes and hospitals. I have a niece who works in a nursing home and they had to get vaccinated and she did but apparently a handful of people quit instead.

    An untold amount of the ‘overcrowded’ hospitals are because of staff shortages that lead to lower capacity and I got a pretty good feeling that a fair proportion of that is people that quit over the mandate.

  19. Bret Weinstein has closely followed the available data on ivermectin, and what he has reported on its use as a prophylactic I find compelling. The contemptuous attacks on people advocating ivermectin—as seen on Twitter, for example—refer to its therapeutic use, more difficult to administer effectively. I don’t think most people realize that it has shown promise in certain places in the world when given to specific populations as a preventative, where data showed new COVID cases dropped dramatically as a result. And, as Martin said, it’s been used safely—and also CHEAPLY—for humans for decades.

    Bret and family chose to take ivermectin rather than get vaxed, primarily because long term effects of the vaccine aren’t yet known.

    What I haven’t heard is whether there’s been enough time to evaluate its use in prevention of new cases of the variant. Still, I can’t see a reason not to encourage its use in the U.S. if it can make a difference. Well, no, of course there’s a reason—politics.

  20. The Australian media is selling all sort of horror stories about “mail order” Ivermectin and dozens of hospitalizations from fake medical distribution outlets…blah blah blah…

    But of course Australia has turned back the clock to become a penal colony again so what would one expect.

  21. JanMN, if you will look at the link posted by Liz at 12:57 p.m., you can see the virus curve in India following widespread distribution of ivermectin. Cases and deaths plummeted, and India is, after all, where the Delta variant came from.

  22. The refusal of US authorities to green-light cheap therapeutics is verging on criminal. Ivermectin’s side effects are well-known and extremely minor.

  23. Kate,

    It’s even worse than that every time a possible new therapeutic pops up the elites attack it with the ferociousness of a hungry pitbull immediately.

    They get some perverse thrill out of this entire thing. It’s a sickness far more damaging than Covid.

  24. Random PRC Covid suppression data point:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/china-aviation-outbound-travel-idUSKBN2FY0C7

    “BEIJING/SYDNEY (Reuters) – China’s aviation regulator is likely to keep the current tight caps on international flights throughout the first half of 2022, analysts cited Air China as saying this week.

    CAAC slashed international flights in March 2020 to allay concerns over rising coronavirus infections. A so-called “Five One” policy allows mainland carriers to fly just one flight a week on one route to any country and foreign airlines to operate just one flight a week to China.

    The CAAC has the tweaked the policy with flight suspensions or capacity caps for airlines if a certain number of passengers are found to have been infected with COVID-19, or adding flights if an airline does not import any cases.”

  25. I skim Australian media multiple times per day.

    You Americans all know what ‘Youths’ mean when you read between the lines in your media reports.

    Reading between the lines, the most serious cases in AU appear largely to be obese diabetic Arabs who shouldn’t even be in the country — if it didn’t have a suicidal immigration policy. They appear to not like vaccinations, don’t like going to see doctors when symptoms appear, naturally love living and socializing in their highly dysgenic extended cousin marriage clans, and invariably show up at hospitals emergency depts when too late.

    So the entire damn country is treated like kindergarten kids because it’s illegal to target one ethnic group for special attention because that would be Rayciss..

    Publishing para 2 above in any way or form is a criminal offense in Australia.

    The West deserves to go down to perdition. It wills it.

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