Why the left fears Cain
There is the obvious reason, which is that he threatens the allegiance of blacks to candidate Obama. That’s why Harry Belafonte is trying to discredit him:
For example, singer and activist Harry Belafonte called Cain a “bad apple” and insinuated he was stupid.
“It’s very hard to comment on somebody who is so denied intelligence, and certainly someone who is as denied a view of history,” Belafonte said. “Because he happened to have had good fortune hit him, because he happened to have had a moment, when he broke through the moment someone blinked, does not make him the authority on the plight of people of color.”
Et tu, Belafonte?
Another reason is that Cain will be able to challenge Obama in ways no white candidate can. For example, when Obama lost the primary against Bobby Rush in 2000 for Rush’s seat in the House, it was in part because of statements like these on Rush’s part:
Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Barack is a person who read about the civil-rights protests and thinks he knows all about it.
Ouch.
The left cannot throw the “race” card around as easy as they would like. They will still try. Mr. Cain’s message is one that many conservatives like to hear. While he is not perfect, no one is, he is leading my pack.
LOVE Herman Cain. Have for YEARS!
And he is like Solomon compared to the poseur in office right now.
Where Obama had to pretend to be something he was not in order to get elected, Herman Cain is the real deal in every sense of the word.
He has earned the honor and respect that he is afforded. Unlike Obama, who has had people paving the way for him, and cheating for him every step of the way.
haven’t you realized yet he left hates everything and at best they turn their eye someplace else, but over time NOTHING satisfies the permanently discontented..
Shultz and the left are now basically saying…
if you dont like obama, your racist
and if you do like cain, your racist
and again, as mentioned in another thread, when are we going to stop pretending and stop discussing these points with a vineer of some validity?
the ideology sides either with what will win, or with what creates social wedges.. whether black, feminist, gay, a husband, etc.. dont matter… and there is no consistency..
but yet the people who follow them more are what we thought where smart…
ie… the dumb cant contort their brains enough to rationalize horror as a goodness.
no,for them they can contort to rationalize violence in response to cheating is a goodness (Ergo disparate impact of the germans is the thing)
on another note… we now have put troops into africa…
a new war today…
i wonder what was wrong with sending troops in to save darfur? after all, once they found out that they were working to save christians, the whole thing was dropped..
and how are those copts making out in egypt?
he bows to islamic caliphate, and sends troops to fight Lord’s Resistance Army…
there are no more churches in Afghanistan
and now he is sending the US military to crush a christian mystic group…
and the protests are now sporting lots of socialist anti semitism in posters and such…
shoa II…
herman cain will not be even in the running come time… as the reps are going to either throw this race or put in someone else.
cain maybe someone they pretend to worry about, but no matter how much we like him he wont get the nomination… the race is fixed, like a WWF wrestling match…
and i will say that external forces are now going to get into it. as they do NOT want this advantage to go away before they can use it to complete advantge.
there will be a point when we will have to defend ourselves and cant pay… or borrow…
or manufacture… or have enough intelligence or health to do so…
so their is a bigger looming shadow looking down on us and we are pretending it isnt there as we whistle past the graveyard..
I remember thinking back in 2008, if only the Republicans would put up a black candidate, then it would cancel out the (I believe) sizeable proportion of floating voters who went with Obama in order to “be part of something historic” or “make peace with the past” or whatever. Wouldn’t it be great if that actually happened this time around?!
He has no experience in elected office whatsoever.
Whenever I bring up this inconvenient fact , I get fobbed off. The most common line is that no experience is better than some political lifer with no experience of the real world.
This strikes me as a false dichotomy. Surely there’s a happy medium between some detached, parasitical govt lifer, and someone with no experience whatsoever.
Every POTUS, to some extent, has had a learning curve in campaigning and in the job itself. But it’s not the right position for a complete beginner.
Liz, you are indeed correct that he has no elected office experience. But he does have considerable executive experience in the private sector.
Compare that to the current (expletive deleted) that now occupies the White House at our expense. He has elected experience, or more precisely, he has ample campaign experience. There is nary a day of experience in the private sector. No history of making payroll, satisfying customers, administrating a business no matter how large or small.
The notion that a candidate for president needs experience as an elected official as a prerequisite for serving is nonsense – in fact, this system was designed for exactly that type of citizen/legislator/executive to serve.
Let’s give him a shot. He is certainly talking a good game and there is no way possible that he could be worse for the country than the current (expletive deleted) in office right now.
I think he might actually be pretty good at it.
I’m with Liz. Although Cain is certainly preferable to Obama (who isn’t), and has the right moral compass and apparent emotional health his lack of government experience, especially foreign affairs experience should be red flag. See Bob McNamara of Viet-Nam fame for what can go wrong when the best man gets into the wrong slot. On the other hand he would make a great Secretary of Commerce.
That said, I hope this election is not going to be another version of American Idol like the last one, that is, may the most picturesque candidate win. We definitely have to rise the voting age to 45.
Just as Palin is a threat to the leftist vision of what a woman could and should be; so too does Cain threaten the leftist concept of what a black could and should be. And the left will do anything and everything to punish Mr. Cain for leaving the plantation.
Liz, you are indeed correct that he has no elected office experience. But he does have considerable executive experience in the private sector.
With respect, I don’t think the two are equivalent. In business and/or the military those in executive positions can simply make decisions and issue directions/orders to implement, with no more discussion than the decider wants to entertain. He has no need to persuade others.
An executive in an elected position can only adopt that approach with his immediate staff. A President has 535 members of Congress, the entire Federal judiciary, the media (unless the President is a Dem, of course), and of course the electorate who are not beholden to him and have to be persuaded, cajoled, threatened, bribed, flattered, whatevered to do his bidding.
Not the same thing at all.
@Turfman:
“…he does have considerable executive experience in the private sector. Compare that to the current (expletive deleted) that now occupies the White House at our expense.”
Any American born adult not in prison or an institution would do better than our current President. I think we should set our standards higher.
“There is nary a day of experience in the private sector. No history of making payroll, satisfying customers, administrating a business no matter how large or small.”
This is the exact same false dichotomy that I’ve been talking about.
The choice is not some parasitical, arrogant, detached lifer on the one hand, and putting someone with no experience whatsoever in the WH on the other. There *is* something in between, you know.
I don’t want someone totally detached from the private sector any more than you do. But you cannot be President without *some* experience in elected office. Any halfway decent President should have learnt what to do *before* they have to run the country.
Just like Governors and Presidents, CEOs need to convince people. They can’t just issue orders. Hell, that’s even true for Generals.
Cain’s experience is less then ideal, but we have to select from the choices in front of us. At the present, those are Cain, Romney and Perry, but Perry has already faded. And I’m note voting Romney in the primary.
Bachmann and Paul have no executive experience. Neither does Newt. Johnson is a solid choice, but so far has remained at the bottom, so he’s not a serious choice.
Oh, and several generals made decent presidents.
Cain clearly appreciates his lack of political experience and is being to select people with experience to advise him and assist him should he win the presidency. He also understands that voters are concerned about this and has indicated that over time he will reveal who will be joining him.
Rightly I think he has pointed out that he can’t yet name people because it would place them in difficult situations. There will be a large cost to political staffers who go with Cain early if he loses. Politicians have long memories and hold grudges. This is an issue that Cain must deal with sooner rather than later. Hopefully he will successfully do so.
To the person who explained that military experience was not enough to make an effective president, I suggest you consider Eisenhower. Perhaps not one of our best, but he was a solid president and left the country stronger than he found it.
Turfman,
You are right, the system is designed for candidates such as Cain. Washington had no elective experience, he was a farmer and a soldier; Adams had no elective experience, he was a farmer and a lawyer, and the list goes on. The attribute that Cain has going for him is that he comes from a business heritage that requires making decisions and getting results. I trust him to surround himself with capable people, and to jettison those people when they prove not up to the task.
IMO, elective experience is akin to academia (former prof., here0; an insular self-congratulatory experience that removes one from the results of one’s decisions. In business, one is subject to those results. That’s what makes Cain’s response (elective experience, “How’s that workin’ out for ya?”) an insight into his own critical thinking skills and not just snappy reparte.
>Just like Governors and Presidents, CEOs need to convince people. They can’t just issue orders. Hell, that’s even true for Generals.
Yes, to an extent. A much smaller extent. Good CEOs and generals don’t just issue orders, but rather make their wishes known, and their subordinates take it from there. In extremis, however, CEOs and generals can fire (relieve) those through whom they must work, and that greatly eases the task of convincing them. How long would Joe Wilson have lasted in business or the military if he publicly told his CEO or commanding general, “You lie!”?
Governors and Presidents can fire neither legislators (of either party), nor the judiciary, nor the electorate, any and all of whom can easily thwart their agenda.
And generals have made decent Presidents. But consider the archetypal example, and the only one of the twentieth century (IIRC): Eisenhower. He had vast executive experience in a role where he could not order but had to convince others (allies and sorta allies, e.g., the Free French) to do his bidding. So Eisenhower’s experience was an anomaly.
Would Patton have made a good President? Would Chesty Puller? I doubt it. I doubt it very much.
Cain’s executive success ultimately rested upon understanding and satisfy Joe Sixpack. Who are the customers of Godfather’s and Burger King?
If there are shortcomings to not having experienced anything other than dictatorial executive power, for Cain they must be somewhat offset by his proven ability to select and package ideas which please the common man.
When he came out with 9-9-9, my first thought was, “here’s a guy who gets marketing!”. Separate from the merits and flaws of 999, the righties complain about not being good at communicating conservative ideas. I think Cain is a solution to that problem. So is Palin.
And Cain’s genuine blackness I think helps his communication power. He speaks like a preacher (he is one). I don’t think a solid Protestant or Mormon or Catholic could connect like a black Georgia Baptist preacher.
To the person who explained that military experience was not enough to make an effective president
Sorry, uncleFred, but this substantially sharpens my point. I didn’t say it wasn’t enough. I said that military/business experience was not equivalent to governmental experience. (See my comments re Eisenhower above, which were typed before I saw your comment.)
Washington had no elective experience, he was a farmer and a soldier; Adams had no elective experience, he was a farmer and a lawyer, and the list goes on.
But where did they stand on terrorism, nuclear proliferation, and drilling in ANWR? My point being, of course, these are inapposite examples from two centuries ago, when the country faced totally different circumstances. Hell, Washington and Adams were born British subjects, and led a country that had 16 states and had a population of under six million. Pretty different proposition than today.
I submit that the Presidency has changed qualitatively in the last 75 years. Which President was it (Coolidge?) who didn’t even have a telephone in his office, but had to walk down the hall to make a call?
OB,
I agree with your point that Eisenhower was an anomaly, and your quite pointed inference that Patton would NOT have made a good president (although I can think of quite a few congress critters who deserve a good slapping). I agree w/ Foxmarks, however, that Cain believes that the electorate is his customer. Again I return to my belief that Cain is results driven rather than ideologically driven (electoral experience). If so, the fundamental issue becomes just what does Herman Cain believe about America. Somehow, I have a difficult time believing that he will run around the world bowing to Arab despots and mayors of Miami.
OB,
Yes quite different today, but in numerous ways. Only 16 states, but no instantaneous comminucations industry; just think of how little the bully pulpit meant to the electorate years ago. Terrorists? No, but Tories, none-the-less. And ultimately, it’s only the envelope that’s changed, the people today are no different than they were 200+ years ago.
Cain’s executive success ultimately rested upon understanding and satisfy Joe Sixpack. Who are the customers of Godfather’s and Burger King?
Maybe we could just outsource choosing a President to American Idol, whose producers’ success demonstrates their understanding of Joe Sixpack. We could call it, “So You Think You Can Be President?”
OB (to finish my comment above, sorry sloppy fingers submitted before I was ready).
In some ways one could argue that it’s easiert today to create a unified electorate than it was for Washington. It’s still herding cats, but the cat herds were much more difficult to reach out to some 200 years ago.
“So You Think You Can Be President?”
Don’t give them any ideas (I can just see someone running down the hall at Fox Entertainment screaming “I got it! I got it! Our next blockbuster reality show should be . . .”
And ultimately, it’s only the envelope that’s changed, the people today are no different than they were 200+ years ago.
True, the people are the same, but the problems are different, as are the means to solve them.
I’m not opposed to Cain; in fact, I quite like him, but worry that he’d be easily outmaneuvered in Washington by those who are familiar with the arcane skulduggery that goes on there. (Consider Reid’s recent rule change in the Senate; I still haven’t figured that out.) We may not want a DC insider, but we cannot afford a total political naif, either. (Those who’ve seen Yes, Minister will appreciate this point.)
For these reasons, I favor Cain for VP. Let him get some seasoning in AAA before he moves up to the Yankees.
Btw, I love the image of Patton slapping some Congressmen. I wonder if he’d have taken requests …
OB,
I appreciate and share your concern for “arcane skulduggery” (great phrase, BTW). One would only hope he has the wisdom to surround himself with individuals who could neutralize that somewhat (Newt Gingrich, on the cabinet or as an advisor perhaps).
My great concern is that perhaps Cain would be too much too soon. It took is a while to transition into this pseudo-European socialism that we now “enjoy,” perhaps a more traditional transitional figure would be more appropriate at this point. Just a thought.
Turns out Youtube has some clips from “Yes, Minister” (and its sequel, “Yes, Prime Minister”), such as this. The setup is that Jim Hacker’s party has just formed a government, and Hacker has been given this ministerial department as his portfolio. While Hacker nominally runs things, in fact the department is run by a long-serving, urbane, amoral, and diabolically cunning civil servant (a British Ernie Bilko) who suavely manipulates Hacker while affecting an air of subservience.
What is an election other than “So you think you can be President”?
What matters (should matter?) is not who wins the popularity contest among Joe Sixpacks, but who can best execute the Constitutional office. How refreshing would it be to have the nation’s CEO concerned about flyover country and the desires of Joe the Plumber?
If I could have a customer-centric President with the moral fiber to be bound by the Constitution, I might like America’s prospects.
Not saying for sure Cain is that person, but he seems better than the other GOP mouthpieces.
OB: I cannot think of government without thinking of Yes, Minister!. 🙂
Humphrey is both the satan and the saviour. We were supposed to have that with our three branches sharing power. But the Allegiance of Humphreys has quietly ascended to both roles.
Within an ossified bureaucratic structure, which candidate has a history of firing or de-fanging Humphrey?
I think it important to note that I carry no water for Cain, but could be enticed to look for a bucket. Palin was my ideal candidate as she most closely resembled my own political stances. But that is water beneath the bridge now. God bless her, though.
However, I might suggest that we have arrived a time where a paradigm shift is in order. We have been led to believe that we should only elect governors if we wish to have a competent president, and that we would not get such competence from a member of Congress. That notion is solidified by the example of a Senator Barack Obama that seems to be an utter failure as an executive, although I would advance that his failure has nothing whatsoever to do with his short tenure in the Senate, nor would he have been good if he were the governor of Illinois, either. He is an evil man – that’s why he’s lousy at what he does.
T, above, mentions Washington and Adams. Truman fits the bill as well, a Senator and a machine politician to boot.
So, I am willing to look at the equation in a completely different way this time around, throwing away sacred cows and conventional wisdom.
We have a lot at stake, and an entrepreneur might be exactly the type of mind that we so desperately need right now.
Within an ossified bureaucratic structure, which candidate has a history of firing or de-fanging Humphrey?
Fire him? Good God, no. You want to turn such talent to serve your purposes!
One thing I’m concerned about is that his past as a Fed Reserve Chairman, he will play right into the OWS/left’s anti bankers meme. I know that whoever gets the nomination will face terrible hurdles, but I can see the hate headlines writing themselves.
I’m a Palinista, but would happily support Cain.
A Cain/West candidate would have a smile on my face every day up until the election.
One thing I’m concerned about is that his past as a Fed Reserve Chairman, he will play right into the OWS/left’s anti bankers meme.
We can’t let the cognitively disenfranchised dictate policy.
Wall Street is in the Dems’ pocket, yet that doesn’t even budge the needle with the brain trust that is OWS. So there’s no point in taking any cognizance of their thoughts (pardon the exaggeration).
I like Cain. I like his common sense answers and the fact that he has good business experience. I also think his simple “9-9-9” plan is marketing genius.
However, I worry that his 9-9-9 plan may not have been carefully analyzed. I and my wife are retired. We don’t pay any payroll taxes. In the debate the other night, it sounded like Cain was justifying the 9% hike in sales taxes by savings that come from a 6% lower payroll tax. How’s that gonna help ME?
Maybe I just need to bone up on his plan and understand it better.
I would LOVE a tax system that replaces all income taxes with some kind of consumption tax. NOT just reduces income taxes. REPLACES them.
Hmm. I’d been advocating Palin/West for months, but a Cain/West ticket certainly would be interesting. West would ably plug up the gaps in Cain’s lack of foreign policy knowledge and experience.
Still, I’m pretty skeptical of Cain, although I prefer him to Perry or Romney. I think he’s too close to the bankers, and I’m very wary of adding a national sales tax to the income tax. I’d rather replace the income tax with a consumption tax.
While his 9-9-9 plan may be preferable to the current tax structure, I don’t think it would stay 9-9-9 for long. Eventually we’ll be looking at 20-20-20. Has he said anything about spending cuts?
Got this off face book the other day:
“His bio:
– Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.
– Master’s degree in Computer Science.
– Mathematician for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics (making him a rocket scientist).
– Computer systems analyst for Coca-Cola.
– VP of Corporate Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury (this is the top of the ladder in the computer world, being in charge of information systems for a major corporation).
All achieved before reaching the age of 35. Since he reached the top of the information systems world, he changed careers!
– Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury’s 400 Burger King restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company’s poorest performers in the country. Spent the first nine months learning the business from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets. After three years he had turned them into the company’s best performers.
– Godfather’s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of their Godfather’s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He made it profitable in 14 months.
– In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather’s Pizza chain from Pillsbury. He was now the owner of a restaurant chain. Again he reached the top of the ladder of another industry.
– He was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during this time. This is a group that interacts with government on behalf of the restaurant industry, and it gave him political experience from the non-politician side.
Having reached the top of a second industry, he changed careers again!
– Adviser to the Federal Reserve System. Herman Cain went to work for the Federal Reserve Banking System advising them on how monetary policy changes would affect American businesses.
– Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank. He worked his way up to the chairmanship of a regional Federal Reserve bank. This is only one step below the chairmanship of the entire Federal Reserve System (the top banking position in the country). This position allowed him to see how monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces that impact the monetary system.
After reaching the top of the banking industry, he changed careers for a fourth time!
– Writer and public speaker. He then started to write and speak on leadership. His books include Speak as a Leader, CEO of Self, Leadership is Common Sense, and They Think You’re Stupid.
– Radio Host. Around 2007–after a remarkable 40 year career–he started hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in the country).
He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid). When you add up his accomplishments in his life–including reaching the top of three unrelated industries: information systems, business management, and banking–Herman Cain may have the most impressive resume of anyone that has run for the presidency in the last half century.”
I am not convinced that you need time in elected office.
George Washington and John Adams didn’t have to deal with oil spills in the Gulf of Mexico. Big deal. Does that mean they couldn’t have done better than Zero, who used the issue to shut down domestic drilling?
Does that mean they couldn’t have done better than Zero
My golden retriever could’ve done better than Zero. Using him as the standard places the bar on the ground.
Looking at Cain’s resume, i don’t think there are any areas he falls short in at being President. And we shouldn’t under estimate how badly the PC issue of racism and victimhood in general needs his big wet blanket thrown on it.
“And Cain’s genuine blackness I think helps his communication power. He speaks like a preacher (he is one). I don’t think a solid Protestant or Mormon or Catholic could connect like a black Georgia Baptist preacher.”
Preach it! 😉
From the Belmont Club:
cfbleachers–
If you are not vetted, not held to account, if every mistake is hidden, every error in judgment is covered up…you are not President of this land, you are a propped up despot for a cabal.
I’m sorry to have to inform my countrymen, when the Left seized power through the conspiracy against the information stream, they didn’t erode our system of government, they overthrew our system of self-governance.
It not only IS intentional….it is part and parcel of a plan. Steamrolling over the truth, facts and evidence…and road grading checks and balances…we now are in a full fledged battle against our own “government”…or, more accurately…we are in the middle of the overthrow of our prior system. It IS being replaced.
The Constitution is being ignored with impunity. Rules, regulations, checks and balances are being summarily dismissed.
Those who wish to adhere to those “niceties” of our former manner of self-governing…are “the enemy”. Protecting our borders, standing with our allies, opposing our enemies, utilizing our natural resources, protecting our liberties…are all under assault.
Occupy Wall Street comes AFTER…occupy the senate, the white house…the media, academia, Hollywood.
We are being transformed. Against our will. Under the guise and pretense of obscured intentions and cloaked manifestations. Soros has broken the bank again. From the inside. Ayers is educating the masses. We are divided. Waiting for the coup de grace. # # #
A reminder from 2005 of some of Harry’s earlier idiocies. http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/bates/050816
From Occam: “I submit that the Presidency has changed qualitatively in the last 75 years. Which President was it (Coolidge?) who didn’t even have a telephone in his office, but had to walk down the hall to make a call?”
Good point but information overload affects us all. Obama is the first president to master the tyranny of information. He does not allow the information to overwhelm him. On the other hand, he is good at disappearing into the information and using that ability to misdirect.
Obama has been strongly programmed with socialist principles. He uses information and does not allow the information to use him. He is the first president to understand and use the social information network, which is a feelings based network. Obama’s ability to appeal is based on feelings and his campaign creates a reality either accepted or rejected on simple accusations. He does not reflect reality but shapes it. This is a result of simple progressive theology which admits only the strong as right. He will campaign again as the Messiah. It was and is his signature. It is the signature of anger and rebellion and hatred of God’s law.
taxexec said: “I would LOVE a tax system that replaces all income taxes with some kind of consumption tax. NOT just reduces income taxes. REPLACES them.”
That IS the Fair Tax that Cain formerly endorsed, and then massaged into 9-9-9 to the dismay of many Fair Tax supporters.
Does anybody really believe that if Cain is elected (may God be so kind to us) that a 9-9-9 will go through congress and come out looking anything like it’s proposed?
I see it as a baseline, and a marketing tool.
And that’s a good thing.
Cain is a black man. Not an Oreo metro-sexual.
Cain would be historic. Our first black president.
As to experience, it’s not Obama’s lack of experience that’s killing us, it’s his political doctrine and the choice of advisers that’s surrounding him.
The Day-o man said ” Because he happened to have had good fortune hit him……… ”
The left has no clue about becoming successful. They think that Cain is successful only because of good luck. Good fortune came out of nowhere and hit him. Cain’s good fortune is a result of Cain’s choices in life and his hard work in making his dreams come true. The left cannot leave the belief that they are on the wrong end of luck or that the lucky are conspiring to keep them on the plantation.
Hangtown Bob,
“The left has no clue about becoming successful.” Amen to that!
So we might rephrase the liberal desire from “redistribute wealth” to “redistribute luck.”
The left is also consumed by the idea of “fairness,” “fairness” being defined as whatever they want to happen.
I once knew of a guy in prison for burglary, and he (I was told) considered it grossly unfair. Unfair? Why, I asked. He was guilty as sin. “Because other people had committed burglary and hadn’t been caught,” while he had. So unfair. Classic.
The OWS protests have crossed the ocean. Therere were demos in Hamburg, Cologne, and Frankfurt today and others in elsewhere in Europe and Asia. This whole damned mess is going to turn into the next wave of anti-Americanism with conservatives bearing the brunt. No one here knows about Barney Frank defending his boyfriend at Fannie Mae or about ACORN intimidating banks to make subprime loans. And trust me, no foreign leader will risk upsetting the MSM and lefty Kultur types to present a true picture.
This should throw some light on the ability of our candidates to understand and deal with foreign affairs. It’s a lot tougher than just drilling for oil or reorganizing a fast food chain. I hope these guys have done some homework.
“”It’s a lot tougher than just drilling for oil or reorganizing a fast food chain. I hope these guys have done some homework.””
expat
All that’s needed is a leader who knows the press is corrupt and uses his bully pulpit to expose it in clever ways. Just because it looked like rocket science to GWB doesn’t mean it is.
SteveH,
I agree. I’ve always said that an adversary’s greatest weakness lies in his greatest strength. Andrew Breitbart is a template on just how to use intellectual jiu jitsu to force the liberal media to discredit itself. Not only can it be done, but the pattern book is already there for all to read.
Steve and T,
No one outside the US has ever heard of Breitbart. That’s why I’m saying our candidate needs to be boning up on foreign affairs. He has to know how to keep our allies cooperating with us, and they can’t do it if their own MSM believes every actor who shows up for a premiere in Berlin. The presidency is a lot more complicated than most people realize.
That IS the Fair Tax that Cain formerly endorsed, and then massaged into 9-9-9 to the dismay of many Fair Tax supporters.
Ed Bonderenka 7:45am
Herman has said many times that he still believes in the Fair Tax and that his 9-9-9- plan is a transition from the cumbersome and UN-fair income tax system that we currently suffer under to the Fair Tax.
Expat,
I won’t disagree with your Breitbart comment. As for the complexityof the presidency, that’s precisely why the ability to surround oneself with good advisors (not just an echo chamber) is one important criterion for a successful presidency.
Cain and Romney are both turn-around artists…
But with a difference. Romney’s turn-arounds consisted of LBOs and asset strip-outs to get to core, profitable businesses.
Cain came in as an expert from HQ — and then LBO’d Godfather’s into something large — in a BRUTALLY competitive field where you’ve really got to have some skills to pull it off.
Cain has been successful at virtually everything he’s turned his hand to. That’s a KILLER trait. Even Steve Jobs can’t make that claim.
As for lack of government experience: he was the President of the KC Fed! It’s not a role for dolts. In case you’re not aware, the KC Fed is the primary statistics branch for the whole system — and so has a huge analytic section.
Because of his insider knowledge — particularly WRT KC — Cain is IDEAL for treading through the Fed’s paper trail.
It’s a MUST HAVE qualification for our times.
By comparison, the Wan is innumerate. He can’t even perform long division. He can’t even understand ‘order of magnitude.’ That’s why he pitches the total absurdity of the Buffet sur-tax which could raise but half a days spending per year.
I can’t imagine Romney repealing Obamacare — since it is nothing but son-of-Romneycare. But Obamacare’s above-the-line employment tax is the greatest job killer of all time.
Newt is smart — but has crippling issues that would certainly sink him on the campaign. Just too many issues — and the MSM know it.
Huntsman is attention-whoring. No chance whatsoever.
Perry’s dead. He has flunked THE critical campaign test: the TV spotlight. The Wan would absolutely crush him. Just wait until the opfor research fleshes out his negatives.
Romney is the pick of the MSM — just as McCain was. Both will have conservatives sitting on their hands instead of voting.
BTW, the GM/Chrysler bailout was Romney’s plan … or don’t you remember?
So Romney = Obama – light.
This whole damned mess is going to turn into the next wave of anti-Americanism with conservatives bearing the brunt.
As it was planned that they should.
All that’s needed is a leader who knows the press is corrupt
The rot goes deeper than that, although that is the most egregious instance of it. Not to go all tin foil hat here, but the media are merely the bullhorn and cheerleaders for a Red cabal. Notice how all of these “spontaneous” movements arise everywhere, at the same time, with the same talking points and slogans? I don’t think that that’s coincidence. JournoList was just one case where the coordinating mechanism was revealed.
blert,
I may be wrong but I thought Romney was for letting GM/Chrysler go through a standard bankruptcy.
Neoneocon,
Following your exposition of Harry Belefonte denouncing Herman Cain because he is simply the recipient of GOOD luck and especially in light of Darrell’s comment above (10:07 pm) this seems like an appropriate time to repeat the following quote from Robert Heinlein:
“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded – here and there, now and then – are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as ‘bad luck.'”
As for Herman Cain’s resourcefulness, quick-on-his-feet ability to think and problem solving ability, see this:
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/15/herman-cain-proves-resourcefulness-with-impromptu-rendition-of-impossible-dream/
and if I may excerpt a sentence from Tina Korbe’s report, I think that this is the true meat of the issue:
“. . . what the nation needs now is a leader, someone who reminds us of what makes America great. I’ve never felt worse about our country after hearing Cain speak. Can’t say the same about Obama, . . . .”
Romney made it perfectly clear that it would have to be an assisted pre-package chapter 11 and that the government was to be deeply involved — in as much as the Feds were already the banker for debtor-in-possession right in front of insolvency!
I can’t believe that Romney would’ve been as extreme as the Wan — but it’s plain that Romney’s plan was Zero’s template.
Romney’s bread and butter was just such corporate restructurings.
Karl Denninger weighs in:
Raising CAIN? A Critical Look At Policy
Math follows.
Mighty fine discussion. Wit and good sense abound. Since I’m neither witty nor sensible, I have nothing to add.
I guess none of the Cain doubters would have voted Wilkie over FDR either.