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  1. when it involved the UAE and the Kingdom, CNN and other outfit, were much less oblique, (why would that be), was this the sunk cost, that the Autopen imposed on much of our domestic capacity, when they closed off extraction on federal property, and damage the reservoir tanks with the draw down

    the Times is remarkably uncurious, but so are the counterparts across the pond, which are nearly as myopic

  2. “Iran also still has plenty of oil storage space remaining onshore”

    That situation can easily be reversed. In fact, absent regime change, ruining Iran’s carbonate oil reservoirs might be the best way to curtail the Iran’s support for terrorism. Iran has spent 100s of millions in support of its terrorist proxies.

  3. I’m not sure I understand why shutting down the oil pumps will cause such catastrophic damage to the oil wells but conventional wisdom says it most certainly will. In some cases the damage will be permanent. Maybe an animated short would explain so even I can see it. Meanwhile if the regime still has “plenty of oil storage space”, the question is why haven’t these storage facilities been destroyed? It would be much easier to construct new facilities after the fighting is done because the giant tankers will be transporting newly pumped oil to wherever. We just haven’t been made aware of why these facilities are still left standing.

  4. chazzand, from what I have read, shutting down the wells mean shutting down the pumps. Then, water fills the wells, and all sorts of bad stuff starts happening. They are very hard to operate again.
    Actually, I will ask my Brother, he works in the Texas Oil fields.

    As to Iran, the IRGC needs to be destroyed, otherwise Iran will not change. Bomb the you know what out of them. Sink any ship, boat, zodiac, dinghy, row boat, rubber raft that Iran has.

  5. I’m beginning to have some small doubt about the administration’s strategy here. To me, kinetic action along with the blockade would be the fastest way to the endpoint. Is this waiting, waiting, waiting, just to appease the US population?

    Patience is a virtue, but I’m becoming quickly less virtuous.

  6. Physicsguy, why bomb when you can destroy them with economics. This is a checkmate move. No need to bomb or invade.

    Whats your hurry??

  7. I have trouble seeing a 30 year old tanker as particularly old, although I grew up on the Great Lakes, and thanks to the peculiarities of the maritime laws there (including the Jones Act,) 30 is not very old at all for a Laker, with a substantial portion of that fleet having passed the half-century mark.

    Although it’s certainly worth noting that fresh water is rather less corrosive than the salt.

    Re: Waiting in Iran
    My understanding is that it is, at least partially, to get around the strictures of the War Powers Act without getting Congress involved. Stopping combat operations resets the clock, or so multiple previous administrations have argued, and the longer the ceasefire the better that argument becomes.

  8. @ physicsguy – Based on past form, President Trump is waiting FOR something, but whether it is coming from Iran, America, or some country (countries?) in the Middle East is not showing up on my Magic 8 Ball.

    In re the wells, the link Neo posted is a reply to a very lengthy, and IMO very interesting, observation about the basic situation regarding Iran’s resources, and Trump’s team’s expertise.
    I didn’t see an easy way to cut the Xweet without ruining Brode’s argument.

    https://x.com/Gary_Brode/status/2046958281693024315

    The Strait of Hormuz Reverse Uno Card

    When Raji Khabbaz and I were running Silver Arrow Investment Management, whenever we were trying to figure out why something happened, he was unsatisfied the explanation that people are sometimes stupid and institutions are often stupid. He correctly thought that people usually have a good reason (at least to them) for doing something even if it appears to make little sense to an outsider. More importantly, he thought that “sometimes people are stupid” was a lazy answer that was dismissive. As investors, it was our goal to understand what was happening, not to ignore it.

    Recently, I’ve written that many of President Trump’s critics are making the same error. When Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow waterway that previously transported 20% of the world’s oil supply, the price of oil rose. Gas prices in the US have risen in response. Many screamed that this was an obvious move by the Iranian regime and insisted President Trump should have known it was something they’d do. How could he not know?!

    In 2002, the US Navy conducted war games they called the Millennium Challenge. One side represented Iran. The other represented the technologically superior US Navy and included an aircraft carrier, warships, and cruisers. The US Navy side had a substantial advantage in firepower. Retired Marine Corps Lieutenant General Paul K. Van Riper used asymmetric warfare tactics to wipe out the US side in one day. Had this been a real fight, the US would have lost 20,000 servicemen. The result was such an embarrassment that the Navy re-floated the sunk ships, changed the rules of engagement to ensure a US victory, and started the challenge again.

    These games were not a secret. They have been widely covered in the mainstream media and have been the subject of a New York Times documentary. Over the past two decades, I have seen the Millennium Challenge discussed in my daily financial news reading at least a dozen times. The event has its own Wikipedia page. Regardless of your opinion of President Trump, do you really believe that neither he, nor anyone in the White House, nor any of his military advisors, nor Secretary of War, Hegseth knew about this? I realize that many of you reading this have strong negative emotions regarding President Trump. I’m not asking you to like or respect him. I’m just suggesting that “he’s stupid and has no idea what he’s doing” is not good analysis. This is a point I’ve made in this space in the past.

    Early in the war, Iran closed the Strait which placed economic pressure on the rest of the world. Despite the fact that it was Iran mining the Strait and shooting at the ships that attempted to navigate it, many countries expressed anger at the US and Israel. This was the outcome Iran wanted. Then, the regime decided to allow friendly ships to pass if they paid a fee. The fees were about $1/barrel of oil, or about $2MM per large container vessel. (Many of these fees were paid in Bitcoin, something macro analyst,
    @peruvian_bull, explained in an excellent post within the past week.)

    This looked like worst-case scenario for the US. Iran succeeded in closing the Strait and causing economic problems all over the world, then found a way to profit from their own actions. Then, President Trump played his “reverse uno” card. He correctly realized that it wasn’t just the rest of the world that depended on free passage through the Strait of Hormuz, and that it was Iran that had the most exposure. Iran is a big oil producer, and oil exports account for 80% of Iran’s exports, 60% of government revenue, and 25% of its GDP. It turns out that Iran has more economic exposure to this narrow waterway than anyone else. President Trump sent the US Navy to form a blockade. He closed the Strait himself ensuring no more $2MM/vessel charges and an inability for Iran to export oil.

    Iran is close to filling its own storage. Once its oil tanks are full, the regime has two choices, either capitulate and come to an agreement with the US, or to stop producing from its own wells. The problem with the second choice is that it’s difficult to reverse. Stopping production on an active oil well tends to damage it and it’s hard to re-start later. Iran now has a limited amount of time to find a course of action before 25% of its GDP becomes permanently(ish) impaired.

    While no one in the US likes paying more for gas, prices were much higher just four years ago in 2022 and around $4/gallon in 2008, 2011, and 2012 when $4 had more purchasing power than it does now. The US is a net energy exporter with an economy that has survived higher prices in the past. Foreign ships are turning away from the Strait of Hormuz and sailing to Texas and other southern US ports to fill up at premium prices. I’m not suggesting that this is great for the US; but rather, that the US is well-suited to manage the situation while Iran is about to be faced with a massive long-term problem.

    Finally, Iran maintains control of the country using extensive human infrastructure. There are police everywhere monitoring protests, internet usage, the attire of citizens, and the hair of Iranian women. That level of control is expensive and the government just lost 60% of its revenue. I’m wondering how long they’ll keep doing their jobs without paychecks.

    I don’t know how this conflict will end. What I do know is that President Trump and the US Navy have turned Iran’s biggest strategic strength into a giant weakness. Sometimes people do stupid things. And sometimes, we just aren’t seeing the reasoning behind those actions. Last week, one of DKI’s interns wrote, ”The bottom line is that (financial analysis) can tell you what the market’s pricing in, but it’s your job to figure out why”. Right now, the mullahs are facing a difficult decision. It will be interesting to see what comes next.
    8:24 AM · Apr 22, 2026

  9. I had read about the Millennium Challenge and the Navy’s “cheating” response some time ago while doing some military-related research.
    There were certainly understandable reasons for restarting the game, because the forces were “booked” for thirteen more days, but see the Wikipedia article for pros and cons of the way that continuance was structured.
    Forcing your opponent to lose so you can keep going is maybe not the best way to learn from your gaming exercises.

    Only James Tiberius Kirk is allowed to use the Kobayashi Maru gambit.

    I wonder if the drastic loss of the US forces in the Challenge influenced some presidential decisions, then and later, since Iran (or whoever) would NOT be reading from the US script, and there was not a lot of appetite in DC for changing the parameters of the conflict in the way that was allegedly required for a genuine victory.
    .
    If you can’t beat ’em, pay ’em off?

    Reading through the details in the Wikipedia article, it seems to me that Trump’s Team did indeed learn at least some of the correct lessons from the exercise, one of those being “don’t telegraph your position, your forces, or your exact intent.”

    If Turtler is around tonight, I suspect he can elucidate.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

    https://mises.org/power-market/our-no-win-kobayashi-maru-economy

  10. @ Barry – thanks (I think!) for the link to “The Democratic Party Embraces Third Worldism”— it was somewhat frighteningly incisive.

    Mansour’s conclusion is well supported by his argument.

    The moderate Democratic leadership, which believes itself to be practicing realism, is not making a new mistake by imagining that a sacrificial logic can be controlled. In many ways, it is one of the oldest mistakes in politics. But there is no prescription in any of this, because prescription implies a situation that admits of remedy, and I am not certain that it does. The decision has been made. It will not be reversed by argument, because the men who made it do not believe they made a decision at all. They believe they recognized a reality. We are all Third Worldists now.

  11. @ SHIREHOME – why in the world would that person go back to Tehran in the middle of a war??

  12. I had a conversation with Grok about that several days ago. Iran mostly manages its own wells, so they have internal expertise, but they only deal with a hundred or two a year. The wells are mostly in fractured carbonates, so water can pass easily. There are going to be thousands of wells needing work. Iran can recover many, but it is going to be a long grind.

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