If you hate the NY Times you’re going to love this editorial.
This month, when an authoritative United Nations advisory panel quietly junked a long-misused worst-case emissions scenario known as RCP 8.5, one of the first to notice was the president, who charmingly tweeted about “Dumocrats” and their “WRONG, WRONG, WRONG” climate estimates.
This was a public service, it turned out, for Mr. Trump’s post forced the media to reckon with a decade’s worth of its own bad reporting.
Speaking of the weather, I saw Pressure last night. I think most here would like it. Brendan Fraser is a bit of a disappointment as Eisenhower, but the guy who plays the scientist/meteorologist is fantastic – Best Actor type stuff. So is the female lead who plays Eisenhower’s aid.
The actor playing the scientist reminded me so much of Dirac that I can’t believe it wasn’t intentional.
A gripping drama about a weather report, but it works! When JFK was taking the reins in 1961 he asked Eisenhower something about the success of the Normandy invasion. Eisenhower said, “We had better meteorologists than the Germans.”
VDH, as usual, sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
Kerry condon last in F1, andrew scott from sherlock and an earlier bond spectre
I recently rewatched the longest day the weather report was the anchor for the first quarter
The Germans including two future bond villains gert frobe and curt jurgens thought it was unlikely the allies would invade
Some folk we’ve seen love to cite the fundamental lack of “leverage” the US suffers in the Iran conflict, and by golly, look at Dr. Hanson follow through, as he details the no “there there” in the US’s flimsy position! Woe unto us, so subservient are we toward the almighty Iranian Revolutionary Islamic State! What folly this jelly-like Trump has put us into! Fie, curse that chickenshit Orangeman quiverer and his no-win strategems!
When I want to hear singers, I go to the Metropolitan Opera.
In my high school years, when involved in playing a couple different instruments, I had encountered a couple of fantastic musicians. One of whom was my best friend. Was that fortunate or unfortunate? One doesn’t have any deep perspective on life at that age. When thinking about whether I would consider a much greater involvement in music, I would think about those two and conclude, “I can’t do that. Nor will I ever.”
But the whole of music and its artistry is a vast universe, and certain skills and talents are just a modest portion of it.
My musical friend was aimless for a short while after high school and joined the Army, if he could get placed in a good Army band. He landed the best Army band (according to him) which was stationed at the Presidio in San Francisco. I spent several days visiting him in SF just after he finished his Army stint and he showed me around the Presidio and I met some the musicians.
In discussing that Army band, he and others talked about how Herb Alpert used to play in it, but he could only rate the third chair in the trumpet section. The unspoken import being, “See, we’re better than Herb Alpert.” Ha! OK, but not really. I think Herb did just fine for himself, and was very talented too.
We have a fleet off shore a battery of bases all along the gulf coast so we have quite a bit of leverage we dont want to treat the iranians like the melians
I wondered exactly how they were going to handle kay somersby ikes aide in the film
Iwas reading silvas first novel the unlikely spy where he basically reversed follets eye of the needle with the villainess this time trying to obtain the war plan for the invasion
The crux of the story involved the structures the allies set up to enable the landing
We can all do with a bit of good news I’d think. It looks like the asshole that threatened the family of the ICE agent has been arrested. It’s nice to have confidence that the DOJ – this DOJ – is going to prosecute aggressively. Downright heartwarming.
Roger Kimball echoes VDH:
“Trump Has Iran Over A Barrel”— https://instapundit.com/800229/
– – – – – –
Regarding Nazi meteorologists it’s not their fault they didn’t have weather stations in Newfoundland, Greenland and Iceland…or that they were, for a variety of reasons, convinced the invasion target would be Calais….
But Eisenhower was being disingenuous characteristically modest.
Identifying that brief window of bad but acceptable weather was an amazing meteorological feat; but it was HIS fateful decision to exploit it and make the call.
@Barry Meislin:Regarding Nazi meteorologists it’s not their fault they didn’t have weather stations in Newfoundland, Greenland and Iceland
Had at least one in Greenland as late as November 1944, when it was captured by the US Army. One of the German ships that supplied it was taken into the US Navy and served until 1950.
A combox anthropologist tells the world:
== The issue is split. about 30% of men and 60% of women choose dominant male harem mating patterns.
== Otherwise just go look at dating apps where there are mountains of data on how dating is working in the modern era. 20% of the men and 80% of women are having sex. The dating apps don’t lie for jackholes like Eva who are deluded and whiny losers.
==
The National Center for Health Statistics tells me that in this country the median age of grooms at the time of their first marriage is 30.8 years. PopulationPyramid tells me that there were in 2023 24.3 million males in this country between 25.0 and 35.0, or 2.43 million per cohort. A unit of Bowling Green State University in Ohio reports that in 2023, 1.87 million men in this country entered into their 1st marriage. The ratio – 1.87 / 2.43 – is equal to 0.77. I might wish it were higher, but it is inconsistent with the contentions of combox anthropologists.
Back in the 80s Robert Duvall starred as Eisenhower in a TV miniseries, “lke.” He was very good, very convincing — he nailed Eisenhower’s distinctive Kansan voice and speech patterns. An understated but powerful performance. Kay Summersby was played by Lee Remick; the movie was based on her memoir. She was also very good — and beautiful.
The scene where Ike goes over to speak with the paratroopers clustered on the runway the day before the invasion is especially memorable. Gives me chills just thinknig about it. I should also like to note the Summerby’s memoir was quite discrete and respectful, and the movie was similarly respectful.
The Germans also bombed Iceland with long-range floatplanes flying from Norway. It was a feeble effort, the bombs were too small to do much damage and no one was hurt. I was told about the incident when I interviewed veterans of the 6th Marines, which garrisoned the island before the regiment was deployed to the Pacific.
Eisenhower was president through most of my childhood. He was in my eyes an Olympian figure, godlike, wise, and imperturbable. A great man, great solider, great president, one of the nation’s greatest.
I have seen hints and read comments of Ike abandoning thousands of German soldiers to!the elements after the surrender. Horrible if true I have puttered around the net looking for info on it. But no joy , anyone know of info
On that story ?
I have been to the rooms where the Ike had his UK headquarters. The big maps are still there, because a smart thinking RAF Officer saved them. The rooms are in RAF base. I really is something to stand in the same rooms Ike stood in and made his decision.
But no joy , anyone know of info
Abandoned is a strong word. After the surrender, somewhere between a million and two million German troops were held by the western allies in internment camps. Facilities were rough, especially in the first month or two, and most slept in the open or in temporary shelters. Overall, estimates are that several tens of thousands died in the camps. Most were released in the fall. I’d say they were lucky to have surrendered in early summer, it could have been much worse.
Keith:
Start your search here “Rheinwiesenlager.”
Europe was awash with people displaced at the end of WWII (2, not eleven). The defeated German soldiers tried their best to surrender to the Americans, British, or French.
They were not classified as POWs by the US, as the war was over, and according to the article below survival rates were good, but it was rough while they were being held.
For perspective, about 250,000 Dutch civilians died in the war, about 50,000 of those in the last winter of the war during the starvation period. Many other countries lost more.
Pivoting to China, I noted in some prior comment that there seemed to be a lot of information surfacing about important Americans having more-than-casual connections with China and the CCP. Not that the info was hidden or unknown, just that it hadn’t been pointed out to the Rubes and Deplorables.
Yet.
Mike Plaiss, thanks for recommending the Pressure movie, I will try to go see it.
“… in Greenland…”
Thanks for that. (A prize for conquering Denmark, no doubt…and THE reason why, just before falling in 1940, Denmark
bequeathed, as it were, Iceland to the UK for “safe-keeping”, the UK in turn “giving” it to the Yanks for same.)
Pretty clear, though, that having a CHAIN of weather stations across the North Atlantic was a distinct advantage for the Allies…
Seems that French (and other various EU-state) sanctions on Israel aren’t exactly working like they’re supposed to.
@ Huxley: “Europe was a real mess after the war and people kept dying.”
Would this have been part of the US’s thinking on the need for an extended time span for our occupation of Japan and Europe? At least for Europe we might have had some sympathy for those of European common heritage, etc. Less so for Japan but perhaps the lack of prior democratic / republicanism played a role there?
Startling Developments at Skinwalker Ranch–
According to the linked video, the latest, large bore drilling down into the Mesa resulted in dangerous radiation exposure, which resulted in a temporary suspension of experiments and filming.*
At a depth of 147 feet the new, 4 foot diameter drill bit they were using broke through rock, into some sort of void, or “chamber.”
Everyone near the bore hole was exposed to increased levels of radiation, and Travis Taylor was exposed to so much apparently life-threatening radiation that he reportedly collapsed, and had to be hospitalized for two weeks, with all sorts of warnings about his radiation exposure leading to possible, serious health issues in the future—increased risk of cancer, reproductive problems, etc.
Brian Fugal is reportedly paying directly for Travis’ medical bills–already more than $600,000 dollars–and Taylor has reportedly filed a $2.6 million dollar Workmen’s Compensation claim.
Their insurance carrier suspended coverage.
The EPA came in, shut down the bore area, and Brian Fugal ordered the hole to be filled with concrete.
The increased danger has led some employees to quit, and there is now radiation monitoring equipment everywhere.
This video says that researchers discovered some sort of “ancient anomalous technology” in the chamber, but I don’t see how they could have done this, if no one actually went down into the void they discovered, to see what it contained.
P.S. If I remember correctly, early on in the first year or so, the current research team talked about how the government researchers who preceded them wouldn’t give them any information about what they had discovered during their 10 plus years of study.
Moreover, sometime back, their aerial photos also found what looked like a section of the Mesa’s ground which had been disturbed, leading to the suspicion that this area had been dug up, something had perhaps been found, and had then been reburied.
According to the linked video, Season 8 has started filming, so I guess they again have insurance coverage.
(Travis Taylor is quoted as saying that–in view of the world changing nature of what they could discover–he wants to keep the research going.)
But, there are now medical personal continuously on site, continuous radiation monitoring, the drill site remains closed by the EPA and off limits, and Brian Fugal is saying that, from now on, they will be less aggressive and much more cautious–with additional layers of protection for researchers and staff–and more safety conscious in their explorations of Skinwalker Ranch.*
@ Snow — I have always tried to keep an open mind on UFO claims, without letting my brains fall out, mostly because the speculations are entertaining.
However, I was very surprised during a family reunion over the Memorial Day weekend to learn one of my own siblings had experience a Sighting!
While we were touring around our hometown discussing old times, we stopped briefly at one prominent “landmark” in our old neighborhood and my younger brother remarked that it was there, in the 1960s, that he and a small group of buddies saw a UFO in the classic style: saucer body, lights, hovering without apparent support, zooming off at a high speed.
He had never told us this story before, but I’m sure that was because we older sisters had either already left home or he knew we would make fun of him (which of course we would have done!), and then time passed and it never came up.
I don’t see any reason to doubt that the boys believed they saw something, and they weren’t drinkers or druggies (pretty sure about that), so it’s an interesting thought to contemplate.
PS Did the Ranch carry through on the order that the hole to be filled with concrete? That would kind of cut down on later research!
Pretty grim. It involved 12-14 million people. An estimated 500,000 to 2.5 million died.
==
The datum is from R.M. Douglas. I’ve known him and quite like him, but I’m inclined to check his math.
AesopFan–Something about the YouTube video I linked to above, and the story it told, doesn’t sit right, which is why I’ve gotten up at 1:37 this morning to try to see if this pretty convincing report depicts what has actually happened, or has been made up “out of whole cloth,” and is, perhaps, an exaggeration or fiction, mere entertainment and click bait; some AI creation.
A couple of things immediately jump out at me.
First, revisiting the YouTube video in question, as of now, I see no comments. That seems odd to me, and I also don’t see any other reports echoing some of the things reported in the video above.
Next, as I pointed out in my retelling of the contents of this YouTube video above, how could they determine that the apparently highly radioactive object in this “chamber” was some sort of “ancient anomalous technology,” if they didn’t actually lay eyes on it, a claim the story I linked to didn’t make.”
They originally characterized this space they broke into as a “void”–an empty space–how do they know that it is actually a “chamber,” which implies that this “void” is an artificial creation.
Second, and of fundamental importance, as you point out, having found something so momentous, a culmination, and their whole purpose of their years of research, why –as the video says Brandon Fugal has already done–fill the hole in with concrete?
You’d think that, instead, they would, yes, take very serious precautions against radiation, but that they would leave the bore hole open, and, as a first, more cautious step, say, fly camera equipped drones down into the hole, or send robots down to get a look at what was there.
This research was supposed to be a private venture, why was the EPA called in? Having done this, the report said that, from now on, government permission will be required before undertaking any particular experiment.
While we’re at it, if their discovery is so momentous, why hasn’t the government just swooped in, pushed these private researchers aside, and taken over entirely, so that it could use it’s tremendous resources to continue the research, and find out what lies at the bottom of the bore hole?
P.S. All my growing doubts about this particular report about Skinwalker Ranch not to say that I don’t believe that UFOs are a real phenomenon—because I increasingly believe UFOs to be just that—or, that there aren’t NHIs “out there,” and perhaps here as well.
P.P.S. You can see from your relative’s belated report about their UFO sighting just how strong the taboo against reporting such a sighting was, and, to a large extent, still is.
RE: Skinwalker
The Feds researched Skinwalker for a reported 11 years, perhaps dug something up in the Mesa and, then, reburied it, and did not reveal the results of their research, or any conclusions they might have come to.
So, perhaps the Feds know exactly what is under the Mesa, and want no part of it.
Dr. Travis Taylor is quoted in the linked article as favoring continuing their research.
He was hit with some radiation back a couple of years ago and, as I recall, spent a day under observation in a hospital, but came back to the research. That I could understand.
However, if, this time, he received what was described as a “life-threatening” dose of radiation, reportedly had to spend two weeks in the hospital, and has been warned, going forward, of a likely increased risk of cancer and possible reproductive damage as a result of his exposure, I find it hard to believe that he–as a man with a wife and children–would again decide to get back to this obviously very dangerous research.
@ Snow – also VERY unlikely that kind of story would not hit all the major papers; you can bet the hospital staff would talk it up big time!
As of 5:13 P.M Eastern DST I still do not see anyone picking up this story, so, it appears to be false.
What I don’t understand is, if this story is indeed false, aren’t those who put out the YouTube story I linked to above putting themselves in some form of legal jeopardy, by attributing actions and statements to people who may not have done or said the things they say they did?
Or, is the calculation that the people they were saying these things about would just not see it as worth it to sue?
P.S. I’m seeing increasing numbers of videos on YouTube which appear to be (AI generated?) fakes–people pictured supposedly saying and doing things that they very likely did not, or would not, say or do.
Are those who create these false videos just counting on being immune from any consequence,s or even prosecution?
@ Snow – time to update Reagan’s maxim: Never trust, always verify.
The AI sloppers are getting very, very good technically – but the substance is still slop.
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Interesting take on Iran from VDH:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_HM3nWRj8U
Resigned retirees is a professional, confessional evolution. Maybe, baby. That is true.
Until the end of doubt.
Holman Jenkins may be the most quirky WSJ columnist – a bit hit and miss. But when he’s on it’s often beautiful, like today.
Donald Trump, Climate Scientist
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-climate-scientist-e84a4100?st=9okVqf
If you hate the NY Times you’re going to love this editorial.
Speaking of the weather, I saw Pressure last night. I think most here would like it. Brendan Fraser is a bit of a disappointment as Eisenhower, but the guy who plays the scientist/meteorologist is fantastic – Best Actor type stuff. So is the female lead who plays Eisenhower’s aid.
The actor playing the scientist reminded me so much of Dirac that I can’t believe it wasn’t intentional.
A gripping drama about a weather report, but it works! When JFK was taking the reins in 1961 he asked Eisenhower something about the success of the Normandy invasion. Eisenhower said, “We had better meteorologists than the Germans.”
VDH, as usual, sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
Kerry condon last in F1, andrew scott from sherlock and an earlier bond spectre
I recently rewatched the longest day the weather report was the anchor for the first quarter
The Germans including two future bond villains gert frobe and curt jurgens thought it was unlikely the allies would invade
Some folk we’ve seen love to cite the fundamental lack of “leverage” the US suffers in the Iran conflict, and by golly, look at Dr. Hanson follow through, as he details the no “there there” in the US’s flimsy position! Woe unto us, so subservient are we toward the almighty Iranian Revolutionary Islamic State! What folly this jelly-like Trump has put us into! Fie, curse that chickenshit Orangeman quiverer and his no-win strategems!
When I want to hear singers, I go to the Metropolitan Opera.
In my high school years, when involved in playing a couple different instruments, I had encountered a couple of fantastic musicians. One of whom was my best friend. Was that fortunate or unfortunate? One doesn’t have any deep perspective on life at that age. When thinking about whether I would consider a much greater involvement in music, I would think about those two and conclude, “I can’t do that. Nor will I ever.”
But the whole of music and its artistry is a vast universe, and certain skills and talents are just a modest portion of it.
My musical friend was aimless for a short while after high school and joined the Army, if he could get placed in a good Army band. He landed the best Army band (according to him) which was stationed at the Presidio in San Francisco. I spent several days visiting him in SF just after he finished his Army stint and he showed me around the Presidio and I met some the musicians.
In discussing that Army band, he and others talked about how Herb Alpert used to play in it, but he could only rate the third chair in the trumpet section. The unspoken import being, “See, we’re better than Herb Alpert.” Ha! OK, but not really. I think Herb did just fine for himself, and was very talented too.
We have a fleet off shore a battery of bases all along the gulf coast so we have quite a bit of leverage we dont want to treat the iranians like the melians
I wondered exactly how they were going to handle kay somersby ikes aide in the film
Iwas reading silvas first novel the unlikely spy where he basically reversed follets eye of the needle with the villainess this time trying to obtain the war plan for the invasion
The crux of the story involved the structures the allies set up to enable the landing
We can all do with a bit of good news I’d think. It looks like the asshole that threatened the family of the ICE agent has been arrested. It’s nice to have confidence that the DOJ – this DOJ – is going to prosecute aggressively. Downright heartwarming.
Roger Kimball echoes VDH:
“Trump Has Iran Over A Barrel”—
https://instapundit.com/800229/
– – – – – –
Regarding Nazi meteorologists it’s not their fault they didn’t have weather stations in Newfoundland, Greenland and Iceland…or that they were, for a variety of reasons, convinced the invasion target would be Calais….
But Eisenhower was being
disingenuouscharacteristically modest.Identifying that brief window of bad but acceptable weather was an amazing meteorological feat; but it was HIS fateful decision to exploit it and make the call.
@Barry Meislin:Regarding Nazi meteorologists it’s not their fault they didn’t have weather stations in Newfoundland, Greenland and Iceland
Had at least one in Greenland as late as November 1944, when it was captured by the US Army. One of the German ships that supplied it was taken into the US Navy and served until 1950.
A combox anthropologist tells the world:
==
The issue is split. about 30% of men and 60% of women choose dominant male harem mating patterns.
==
Otherwise just go look at dating apps where there are mountains of data on how dating is working in the modern era. 20% of the men and 80% of women are having sex. The dating apps don’t lie for jackholes like Eva who are deluded and whiny losers.
==
The National Center for Health Statistics tells me that in this country the median age of grooms at the time of their first marriage is 30.8 years. PopulationPyramid tells me that there were in 2023 24.3 million males in this country between 25.0 and 35.0, or 2.43 million per cohort. A unit of Bowling Green State University in Ohio reports that in 2023, 1.87 million men in this country entered into their 1st marriage. The ratio – 1.87 / 2.43 – is equal to 0.77. I might wish it were higher, but it is inconsistent with the contentions of combox anthropologists.
Back in the 80s Robert Duvall starred as Eisenhower in a TV miniseries, “lke.” He was very good, very convincing — he nailed Eisenhower’s distinctive Kansan voice and speech patterns. An understated but powerful performance. Kay Summersby was played by Lee Remick; the movie was based on her memoir. She was also very good — and beautiful.
The scene where Ike goes over to speak with the paratroopers clustered on the runway the day before the invasion is especially memorable. Gives me chills just thinknig about it. I should also like to note the Summerby’s memoir was quite discrete and respectful, and the movie was similarly respectful.
The Germans also bombed Iceland with long-range floatplanes flying from Norway. It was a feeble effort, the bombs were too small to do much damage and no one was hurt. I was told about the incident when I interviewed veterans of the 6th Marines, which garrisoned the island before the regiment was deployed to the Pacific.
Eisenhower was president through most of my childhood. He was in my eyes an Olympian figure, godlike, wise, and imperturbable. A great man, great solider, great president, one of the nation’s greatest.
I have seen hints and read comments of Ike abandoning thousands of German soldiers to!the elements after the surrender. Horrible if true I have puttered around the net looking for info on it. But no joy , anyone know of info
On that story ?
I have been to the rooms where the Ike had his UK headquarters. The big maps are still there, because a smart thinking RAF Officer saved them. The rooms are in RAF base. I really is something to stand in the same rooms Ike stood in and made his decision.
But no joy , anyone know of info
Abandoned is a strong word. After the surrender, somewhere between a million and two million German troops were held by the western allies in internment camps. Facilities were rough, especially in the first month or two, and most slept in the open or in temporary shelters. Overall, estimates are that several tens of thousands died in the camps. Most were released in the fall. I’d say they were lucky to have surrendered in early summer, it could have been much worse.
Keith:
Start your search here “Rheinwiesenlager.”
Europe was awash with people displaced at the end of WWII (2, not eleven). The defeated German soldiers tried their best to surrender to the Americans, British, or French.
They were not classified as POWs by the US, as the war was over, and according to the article below survival rates were good, but it was rough while they were being held.
Not as good as ICE detention.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/rheinwiesenlager
Just one link. Not hard to find.
For perspective, about 250,000 Dutch civilians died in the war, about 50,000 of those in the last winter of the war during the starvation period. Many other countries lost more.
Pivoting to China, I noted in some prior comment that there seemed to be a lot of information surfacing about important Americans having more-than-casual connections with China and the CCP. Not that the info was hidden or unknown, just that it hadn’t been pointed out to the Rubes and Deplorables.
Yet.
https://freebeacon.com/media/new-york-times-columnist-nicholas-kristofs-wife-recently-appointed-vice-chair-of-harvard-board-of-overseers-is-a-member-of-a-beijing-aligned-group-linked-to-chinese-government/
Mike Plaiss, thanks for recommending the Pressure movie, I will try to go see it.
“… in Greenland…”
Thanks for that. (A prize for conquering Denmark, no doubt…and THE reason why, just before falling in 1940, Denmark
bequeathed, as it were, Iceland to the UK for “safe-keeping”, the UK in turn “giving” it to the Yanks for same.)
Pretty clear, though, that having a CHAIN of weather stations across the North Atlantic was a distinct advantage for the Allies…
Seems that French (and other various EU-state) sanctions on Israel aren’t exactly working like they’re supposed to.
“PARIS IS BURNING”—
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2026/05/paris-is-burning.php
Macron et amis will almost certainly have to double down.
+ Bonus:
“Outrage as France Prepares To Shatter Confession Secrecy”—
https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/outrage-as-france-prepares-to-shatter-confession-secrecy/
France learning a thing or two (or not) from the Great State of Washington?
(Guess the ball’s in Leo’s court…)
Re: WW II / The Trek
This was the flight/expulsion of German citizens and ethnic Germans from Eastern and Central Europe towards the end of WW II and thereafter.
Pretty grim. It involved 12-14 million people. An estimated 500,000 to 2.5 million died.
These losses are mostly forgotten. It’s hard to muster a great deal of sympathy. Nonetheless.
Europe was a real mess after the war and people kept dying.
To the Germans in the immediate aftermath of WW2:
FAFO.
Karma is a motherfucker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUyxCP5Rvco
@ Huxley: “Europe was a real mess after the war and people kept dying.”
Would this have been part of the US’s thinking on the need for an extended time span for our occupation of Japan and Europe? At least for Europe we might have had some sympathy for those of European common heritage, etc. Less so for Japan but perhaps the lack of prior democratic / republicanism played a role there?
Startling Developments at Skinwalker Ranch–
According to the linked video, the latest, large bore drilling down into the Mesa resulted in dangerous radiation exposure, which resulted in a temporary suspension of experiments and filming.*
At a depth of 147 feet the new, 4 foot diameter drill bit they were using broke through rock, into some sort of void, or “chamber.”
Everyone near the bore hole was exposed to increased levels of radiation, and Travis Taylor was exposed to so much apparently life-threatening radiation that he reportedly collapsed, and had to be hospitalized for two weeks, with all sorts of warnings about his radiation exposure leading to possible, serious health issues in the future—increased risk of cancer, reproductive problems, etc.
Brian Fugal is reportedly paying directly for Travis’ medical bills–already more than $600,000 dollars–and Taylor has reportedly filed a $2.6 million dollar Workmen’s Compensation claim.
Their insurance carrier suspended coverage.
The EPA came in, shut down the bore area, and Brian Fugal ordered the hole to be filled with concrete.
The increased danger has led some employees to quit, and there is now radiation monitoring equipment everywhere.
This video says that researchers discovered some sort of “ancient anomalous technology” in the chamber, but I don’t see how they could have done this, if no one actually went down into the void they discovered, to see what it contained.
P.S. If I remember correctly, early on in the first year or so, the current research team talked about how the government researchers who preceded them wouldn’t give them any information about what they had discovered during their 10 plus years of study.
Moreover, sometime back, their aerial photos also found what looked like a section of the Mesa’s ground which had been disturbed, leading to the suspicion that this area had been dug up, something had perhaps been found, and had then been reburied.
According to the linked video, Season 8 has started filming, so I guess they again have insurance coverage.
(Travis Taylor is quoted as saying that–in view of the world changing nature of what they could discover–he wants to keep the research going.)
But, there are now medical personal continuously on site, continuous radiation monitoring, the drill site remains closed by the EPA and off limits, and Brian Fugal is saying that, from now on, they will be less aggressive and much more cautious–with additional layers of protection for researchers and staff–and more safety conscious in their explorations of Skinwalker Ranch.*
• See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s73KL8VdsE
@ Snow — I have always tried to keep an open mind on UFO claims, without letting my brains fall out, mostly because the speculations are entertaining.
However, I was very surprised during a family reunion over the Memorial Day weekend to learn one of my own siblings had experience a Sighting!
While we were touring around our hometown discussing old times, we stopped briefly at one prominent “landmark” in our old neighborhood and my younger brother remarked that it was there, in the 1960s, that he and a small group of buddies saw a UFO in the classic style: saucer body, lights, hovering without apparent support, zooming off at a high speed.
He had never told us this story before, but I’m sure that was because we older sisters had either already left home or he knew we would make fun of him (which of course we would have done!), and then time passed and it never came up.
I don’t see any reason to doubt that the boys believed they saw something, and they weren’t drinkers or druggies (pretty sure about that), so it’s an interesting thought to contemplate.
PS Did the Ranch carry through on the order that the hole to be filled with concrete? That would kind of cut down on later research!
@ Snow – I have learned their secret!
https://accordingtohoyt.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/1906028649782448128.jpg
Pretty grim. It involved 12-14 million people. An estimated 500,000 to 2.5 million died.
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The datum is from R.M. Douglas. I’ve known him and quite like him, but I’m inclined to check his math.
AesopFan–Something about the YouTube video I linked to above, and the story it told, doesn’t sit right, which is why I’ve gotten up at 1:37 this morning to try to see if this pretty convincing report depicts what has actually happened, or has been made up “out of whole cloth,” and is, perhaps, an exaggeration or fiction, mere entertainment and click bait; some AI creation.
A couple of things immediately jump out at me.
First, revisiting the YouTube video in question, as of now, I see no comments. That seems odd to me, and I also don’t see any other reports echoing some of the things reported in the video above.
Next, as I pointed out in my retelling of the contents of this YouTube video above, how could they determine that the apparently highly radioactive object in this “chamber” was some sort of “ancient anomalous technology,” if they didn’t actually lay eyes on it, a claim the story I linked to didn’t make.”
They originally characterized this space they broke into as a “void”–an empty space–how do they know that it is actually a “chamber,” which implies that this “void” is an artificial creation.
Second, and of fundamental importance, as you point out, having found something so momentous, a culmination, and their whole purpose of their years of research, why –as the video says Brandon Fugal has already done–fill the hole in with concrete?
You’d think that, instead, they would, yes, take very serious precautions against radiation, but that they would leave the bore hole open, and, as a first, more cautious step, say, fly camera equipped drones down into the hole, or send robots down to get a look at what was there.
This research was supposed to be a private venture, why was the EPA called in? Having done this, the report said that, from now on, government permission will be required before undertaking any particular experiment.
While we’re at it, if their discovery is so momentous, why hasn’t the government just swooped in, pushed these private researchers aside, and taken over entirely, so that it could use it’s tremendous resources to continue the research, and find out what lies at the bottom of the bore hole?
P.S. All my growing doubts about this particular report about Skinwalker Ranch not to say that I don’t believe that UFOs are a real phenomenon—because I increasingly believe UFOs to be just that—or, that there aren’t NHIs “out there,” and perhaps here as well.
P.P.S. You can see from your relative’s belated report about their UFO sighting just how strong the taboo against reporting such a sighting was, and, to a large extent, still is.
RE: Skinwalker
The Feds researched Skinwalker for a reported 11 years, perhaps dug something up in the Mesa and, then, reburied it, and did not reveal the results of their research, or any conclusions they might have come to.
So, perhaps the Feds know exactly what is under the Mesa, and want no part of it.
Dr. Travis Taylor is quoted in the linked article as favoring continuing their research.
He was hit with some radiation back a couple of years ago and, as I recall, spent a day under observation in a hospital, but came back to the research. That I could understand.
However, if, this time, he received what was described as a “life-threatening” dose of radiation, reportedly had to spend two weeks in the hospital, and has been warned, going forward, of a likely increased risk of cancer and possible reproductive damage as a result of his exposure, I find it hard to believe that he–as a man with a wife and children–would again decide to get back to this obviously very dangerous research.
@ Snow – also VERY unlikely that kind of story would not hit all the major papers; you can bet the hospital staff would talk it up big time!
As of 5:13 P.M Eastern DST I still do not see anyone picking up this story, so, it appears to be false.
What I don’t understand is, if this story is indeed false, aren’t those who put out the YouTube story I linked to above putting themselves in some form of legal jeopardy, by attributing actions and statements to people who may not have done or said the things they say they did?
Or, is the calculation that the people they were saying these things about would just not see it as worth it to sue?
P.S. I’m seeing increasing numbers of videos on YouTube which appear to be (AI generated?) fakes–people pictured supposedly saying and doing things that they very likely did not, or would not, say or do.
Are those who create these false videos just counting on being immune from any consequence,s or even prosecution?
@ Snow – time to update Reagan’s maxim: Never trust, always verify.
The AI sloppers are getting very, very good technically – but the substance is still slop.