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  1. My husband, when young, worked on ski patrol in the high country. He describes going up by helicopter to drop dynamite on cornices, to make them collapse before skiers could be caught beneath them. In the case of the Tahoe deaths, there were extreme warnings because of the heavy snow, but they went out anyhow.

  2. In the early eighties there was an avalanche at Alpine Meadows in Tahoe that killed seven people. One girl survived. The people who were killed were not in a back country area: they were employees in buildings and some people out for a walk, crossing the parking lot. One survivor was buried for several days in one of the buildings. She was still skiing when I met her, thirty years ago, though she lost part of one of her legs to frostbite.

  3. Deadliest avalanche in US history was up the road from my house, destroyed two trains and killed 96 people back in 1910.

    Fortunately avalanches are a localized hazard. Not everyone has the option to not be around them, but most of us do.

  4. I believe far more skiing deaths are caused by accidents (running into trees or other skiers), or by medical emergencies (heart attack, etc.) than by avalanches.

  5. Way back when I was “skiing” in the 1980s helmets weren’t a thing for the general public. I think they are now, which is progress.

  6. Last time I skied Tahoe, they closed the mountain because of avalanche concerns. I heard dynamite exploding in the distance (to force the issue, I suppose).
    While skiing in the Alps years back I decided to go off the trail and into the deep, unknown. I had seen a family of four do it. So, thinking it was safe, I followed them. At first it was beautiful and exhilarating zigging in and out between evergreens, like I was in a James Bond movie. Then I fell and got buried in deep, thick snow. The family I was following was nowhere to be seen. Suddenly I wasn’t certain that I wouldn’t ski off a cliff. After getting buried a few more times, I eventually found my way to safety at the bottom where the bus to the hotel was waiting. The wine was excellent that night.

  7. But it’s a primal fear nonetheless, perhaps from movies.

    I have a similar horror of quicksand. In the 50s, on Saturday mornings, there were these jungle adventure serials — Jungle Jim, Ramar of the Jungle, etc. It seemed that in every episode someone either got sucked under in quicksand or had to be rescued from quicksand. I was fascinated, enthralled, horrified.

  8. Kate; Monte Meals:

    Statistics on resort skiing (non-avalanche) accidents in the US:

    Key Statistics & Facts:
    Average Fatalities: ~42 per season (10-year average).
    2023-24 Season: 35 total deaths (28 skiers, 7 snowboarders).
    2022-23 Season: 46 total deaths (37 skiers, 9 snowboarders).
    Demographics: The majority of fatalities are male, often experienced skiers/snowboarders.
    Location: Most incidents occur on intermediate terrain.
    Rate: The fatality rate is approximately 0.74 deaths per million skier visits.

    That’s an extremely low probability of death, because of the high number of skiers.

    The number of back-country skiers is far lower, but the number of deaths is nearly as high:

    An average of 25 to 30 people die in avalanche-related accidents in the United States each winter. While this includes various winter recreationists, such as snowmobilers, backcountry skiers and snowboarders are frequently involved in these fatalities. The vast majority of these accidents occur in backcountry areas.

    Average Fatalities: Approximately 22-30 deaths per year occur in the U.S. due to avalanches, with 22 reported in the 2024-2025 season.
    Common Victims: Backcountry skiers, snowboarders, and snowmobilers are the most common victims.
    Trigger Factors: Over 90% of avalanche accidents are triggered by the victims or others in their group.

    Avalanche victims are almost always in back-country terrain. Estimates are that about 2 million people engage in back-country skiing or other sports. So obviously the chance of death is far higher than in skiing on trails.

  9. I’ve done a tremendous amount of skiing and cycling over my life. I went skiing for the first time in about 20 years last year. I skiied a lot before then. I was astonished last year to see that EVERYONE is wearing helmets. Really!? It strikes me as though people are putting on helmets to go shopping at the supermarket. Why?

    My friend who has been a ski instructor for 15+ years simply said “Sonny Bono.” Maybe Natasha Richardson too. The Sonny Bono incident I can believe. He was stupid enough to hit a tree at speed. But Natasha just fell down, as far as I can learn. That one is bizarre.

    I would guesstimate that the value of wearing a helmet while bicycling is perhaps 10 times greater than for skiiing. Asphalt and concrete is very hard. And your head is higher before the fall. And less body control in mid-fall. When you fall on a steep ski slope, the impact is a glancing blow because of the slope.

    Yet decades ago when the bicycle oriented country of the Netherlands looked a bicycle helmet requirement, they decided against it. The downside of people choosing not to cycle with a helmet outweighed those that might be saved.

    I cycle with a helmet. I will never ski with one. If you choose to ski in the trees (and you don’t have to do so), slow down!

    The avalanche deaths are certainly unfortunate. But again… to ski in those areas in those conditions, you are multiplying your risks by 100 or 1,000 fold. Roll the dice.

  10. about ten years ago i read a report that the widespread adoption of ski helmets had not changed the rate of head injuries to any statistically meaningfull degree.

  11. I have read that the old movies and TV shows used oatmeal to simulate quicksand.

    That’s how the George Pal team simulated lava flows in “The Time Machine.”

  12. Ski helmets: More on Neo’s stats, at 8:06 pm:
    “Only five of those 35 killed on U.S. slopes in the 2023-24 season were not wearing helmets.”
    So, that season, helmets didn’t help much. Of course, fatal accidents are not limited to head injuries.
    I haven’t skiied since the 80’s, and had not realized that recreational skiing had become helmetized. I wouldn’t choose to wear one, but then again, I rarely did tree skiing.
    Biking — I absolutely wear a helmet!
    The Netherlands story from TommyJay is interesting — choosing not to require bike helmets, year ago. I wonder if that has changed.
    In 2020, my husband had a serious bike accident in our hilly neighborhood . I was there, thankfully. He & bike went a full rotation ( NOT intentionally ), & the landing was awful! He would be dead, if not for his helmet.
    Suffered several bad injuries, still. Punctured lung, fractured vertebrae, concussion. Broke the bottom of 1 side of his skull, damaged an eye nerve causing double vision for some time.
    And of course, some nasty lacerations.
    He was in ICU, then a “step down” room for nearly a week.
    (COVID restrictions at the hospital were brutal on me. Bad timing!)
    Had tons of doctor and PT appointments for several months.
    I’m very grateful he doesn’t remember the accident! We got back to biking, eventually.

  13. 1. Everyone dies. Dying while doing something you love, in my humble opinion, is no tragedy. My personal goal has always been to die in a violent motorcycle crash (single vehicle of course) on a twisty road somewhere in the mountains. Unfortunately for me, I’m a pretty damn good rider, so no luck so far. If I ever succeed, don’t mourn, celebrate.

    2. Nature is actively trying to kill you at every moment of every day. Forget that at your peril. Personally, I think living life to the fullest is worth the risk rather than sitting at home in a nice, relatively safe, bubble, but going forth and adventuring does entail risk that you must be willing to accept.

    3. Life is a contact sport. The only way to stay “safe” is to refuse to play…but then, what’s the point?

    I think growing up on a farm had a lot to do with forming my attitudes about life. When you’re that close to the cycle, I think it makes it easier to accept as perfectly natural the concept that everything that lives, also dies. Dying isn’t a mishap in life, it’s the inevitable conclusion.

    It’s kind of ironic that they typically put two dates on people’s gravestones, but what’s actually important is what happened between them.

  14. I’ve never thought about avalanche one way or the other. Roiling water is my fear. I can barely stand to watch the 1953 movie “Niagara,” for example.

  15. I’ve never thought about avalanches one way or the other. Roiling water is my fear. I can barely stand to watch the 1953 movie “Niagara,” for example.

  16. There are currently avalanche warnings for my area. It has been a dry and warm winter so far, but last weekend we got significant snow, and now it is warm again, not a good combination. Avalanches are a fairly common occurrence, sometimes they close the canyon road. It is amazing how hard the snow packed down by an avalanche is, like concrete. Lots of crosscountry skiing, snowshoeing, and snowmobiling here.

    It isn’t just snow. Before the trails got snowed in I noticed some big boulders had come down. The warm days, cold nights, had loosened them.

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