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What’s up with all these leftists in healthcare professions who proudly advocate harming MAGA supporters? — 38 Comments

  1. “Do no harm”got replaced with
    “For the greater good” more than a hundred years ago.

    Eugenics, involuntary sterilization, and now doctor-assisted suicide (sometimes now it seems involuntary). Those evil MAGAts, nope, the actual Nazi doctors started out with the murder of “useless eaters” in Germany before Hitler invaded Poland (before 1939).

    So no, doctors and nurses, are quite succeptable to the murderous abuses of power for “the greater good.”

  2. There are a lot of people who think that their membership in the defined group of Good People gives them license to do or say whatever they feel like. They are not only found on the Left…

    Goodness is not what people are, it is how people behave. In a comic book, the good guys can destroy the whole city fighting the bad guys because “good guy” and “bad guy” status are bestowed by the writer. In real life, you have to continually re-earn, or perhaps forfeit, your “good guy” status based on how you behave, and it doesn’t matter that you plead you’re a “good person” who made “one mistake”, the badness has not been undone.

  3. A lot of nurses are women. Maybe a majority. And women of a certain age and race (i.e. AWFLs) are, it is said, becoming increasingly radicalized in a leftward direction. Might this have something to do with the problem this post addresses? I wonder.

  4. These outspoken medical professionals, whatever their field(s), have been at work for some time. They have a history which is probably pretty well documented by signing off on a zillion items each week, as their work goes on and they are replaced by the next shift and so forth.
    Could someone with an unfortunate medical result use this as a hook for a malpractice suit?
    One question might be what the employer should have known–earlier being outspoken or membership in some radical group (if only online).
    Been said a million times; a lawsuit doesn’t have to be legit to be a pain in the butt. But a bad medical result can lead to anger and resentment, and even the least suggestive factor can take on great importance,

  5. Health care has increasingly become dehumanized and bureaucratic, so now nurses and doctors see victims ripe for justice not people needing care.

    Mengele and Che smile from hell.

    If the medical bureaucracy sees these malevolent medicos as a risk to their profit, action may follow. Sue the bastards. As Richard Aubrey implies?

  6. Rod Dreher just posted an absolutely chilling story, related to this topic, from a personal friend:
    ==
    If Rod Dreher begins a column with ‘a friend writes’, it is prudent to assume the friend exists only in Dreher’s mind.

  7. A lot of nurses are women. Maybe a majority.
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    About 83% of RNs are female and 72% of RPA’s.

  8. It was 18 years ago that KC Johnson was writing about teacher accreditation agencies imposing political litmus tests on aspirant teachers. Republican state legislators seem perpetually asleep at the wheel.

  9. Nik:
    “They are not only found on the Left…”

    Malinda Cook, Alexis Lawler, Erik Martindale are three leftist sociopaths who have lost their jobs for threatening to harm people.

    Provide exaamples of conseratives who have done similar.

  10. @Bob Wilson:Provide exaamples of conseratives who have done similar.

    I’m not going to play “true Scotsman” games with you. I’m not saying there’s exactly as many of them or that they’re exactly as bad or anything like that. If you have a group of humans, some percentage of them are going to do and say stuff like this.

    It’s not plausible that there are no conservatives, however defined, who haven’t lost their jobs (or lives!) for threatening to harm people, or attempting to harm people, or who haven’t actually harmed people for their political beliefs.

    Some of the threats quoted in what I linked to should not be quoted here.

    What is very plausible is that the sources from which you form your impressions have filtered them out and so you don’t think there are any. To be fair they are probably not posting too much on TikTok, but I wouldn’t know.

    You and I spend most of our time online looking at sources that highlight this kind of behavior from leftists, but that doesn’t mean it’s confined to the left.

  11. Some Nurses are OK

    I know of a RN at the largest hospital in her state. She was the senior RN on the COVID floor when on duty – for almost two years. What she saw horrified her. Read the book: “What The Nurses Saw” by Ken McCarthy about their ordeal. The protocols coming down from Washington DC almost guaranteed a bad outcome what with unnecessary intubation and Remdesevir.

    When the vaccine came out she was 100% opposed. She volunteered to help anyone in the hospital of over 3,000 employees to take care of and/or edit their religious expemptions to the “vaccine” to make sure they qualified for the exemption.

    She knew first hand the “vaccine” did not actully do a damn thing relative to stopping transmission nor that it was effective especially for young people with no co-morbidities.

    The employees were going to be fired for not getting the vaccine but she was able to get 300 of her collegues religious expemptions. By that time there too many employees to fire and traveling nurses back then were being poached away and offered up to $5000 to $7500 a week to leave. The hospital totally caved.

    That nurse was my daughter

  12. om

    I do imply that the lawsuits may be forthcoming. A bad medical result can be a festering sore–metaphor–and a source of grief and resentment. Displacement is more common than I had thought back in the days when I thought people might be misinformed, but rational.
    Give that resentment a place to land–displacement gives you a specific target outside of blind faith, and evidence is hardly necessary. As I recall, Jon Edwards made a good living with malpractice suits with no evidence whatsoever but a weeping family and a jury easily moved.
    In the current case, we have one of these death-to-MAGA employees on hand for starters.

  13. I’m not going to play “true Scotsman” games with you.
    ==
    You don’t have to; he’s pointing out that non-leftists generally respect the distinction between different spheres in life and have more circumscribed objects in regard to political life. You would, for example, have a difficult time locating a professional association which was taken over by people promoting the starboard New New Thing.

  14. Nik:

    “You and I spend most of our time online looking at sources that highlight this kind of behavior from leftists, but that doesn’t mean it’s confined to the left.”

    The left politicians have found that outrageous statements get them votes. The current Attorney General of Virginia stated that he fantasized killing his opponent and his children. Despite that or because of that he was elected.

    It is true that nothing is absolute in human behavior but making an equivalence between the behavior of the left and of the right is false. The two sides are not the same. One is good and the other is evil.

  15. @Art Deco:he’s pointing out that non-leftists generally respect the distinction between different spheres in life and have more circumscribed objects in regard to political life.

    No, he demanded I show examples. They are easy to find, too easy in fact because you have to dig through them to make sure they are not being mischaracterized. I rejected a bunch that involved arguably crazy people, “sovereign citizens”, Proud Boys, Boogaloos, antiblack racists, and Muslim and non-Muslim antisemites, and anything that came from something like Washington Post or NPR or the Guardian even if the facts held up otherwise.

    You’re not going to find the conservative version of the lefty nurses on TikTok or YouTube because those are not friendly places for conservatives, they are already getting filtered out. Which is kind of my point.

  16. @Bob Wilson:but making an equivalence between the behavior of the left and of the right is false

    If I see anyone do that I will be sure to let them know.

    One is good and the other is evil.

    If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?

    During the life of any heart this line keeps changing place; sometimes it is squeezed one way by exuberant evil and sometimes it shifts to allow enough space for good to flourish. One and the same human being is, at various ages, under various circumstances, a totally different human being. At times he is close to being a devil, at times to sainthood. But his name doesn’t change, and to that name we ascribe the whole lot, good and evil….

    …In the surfeit of power I was a murderer and an oppressor. In my most evil moments I was convinced that I was doing good, and I was well supplied with systematic arguments. And it was only when I lay there rotting on prison straw that I sensed within myself the first stirrings of good. Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either – but right through every human heart – and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us it oscillates with the years. And even within the hearts overwhelmed with evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained. And even in the best of all hearts, there remains…an un-uprooted small corner of evil. Since then I have come to understand the truth of all the religions on the world. They struggle with the evil inside a human being (inside every human being). It is impossible to expel evil from the world in its entirety, but it is possible to constrict it within each person. And since that time I have come to understand the falsehood of all the revolutions of history: they destroy only those carriers of evil contemporary with them (and also fail, out of haste, to discriminate the carriers of good as well). And they take to themselves as their heritage the actual evil itself, magnified still more.

  17. As a veteran of several Army medical units I find these reports both saddening and infuriating. In the military, medics were (and still are I hope) trained and taught to treat all wounded based on medical need alone regardless of uniform, ideology or allegiance.

    During the Vietnam war there are many examples of enemy fighters being treated even under fire alongside American casualties, and being evacuated with them.

    Same thing during the Iraq war. US Combat Support Hospitals routinely treated insurgents, including those wounded while attacking US forces. During the fighting in Fallujah in 2004 US medics treated large numbers of enemy fighters.

    In the military the medical ethics were clear- “I am a healer first, regardless of who is in front of me.” I always thought it was the same in the civilian world, but apparently not, or no longer.

  18. Add therapists to the list. Though a small sample size, there have been therapists who support the not treating conservative clients who are MAGA. It’s one thing to be conservative but it’s a new level if you’re MAGA to them. Therapists go around and say to refer them out or to charge them double. I’ve read posts with a dismissive tone expressing that they don’t want to deal to their psychological baggage of a conservative as if their worries aren’t good enough to be actually worries.

  19. IMO, the state of medical schooling today is the result of the Gramscian march through our institutions.

    It’s getting very late if we are ever going to stop this rot.

  20. My simple observation: SMASH The Gynocracy!

    Elevate and celebrate men into EVERY helping profession to defeat this evil group think menace! Then this pathological altruistic skew will reverse and get neutered.

    REPLY to GRA.
    One measure is supporting or using the resources at the Open Therapy Institute — which defends the (classic) liberal flourishing standard of care for those with life-difficulties. https://www.opentherapyinstitute.org/

  21. Again, what amazes me is that these psychos somehow think that there will be no major negative consequences from spewing their evil viewpoint/intent, in essence, to the whole world.

    It would be one thing if they evidenced some awareness, and prefaced whatever malevolence they wanted to impart by saying–yeah, I know this will get me fired and my license yanked–but I gotta say it.

    But, in the three instances I saw, they just launched into their spiel.

  22. And of this morning, it’s reported that the nurses union in Oregon (where else?) is setting up anti-ICE training sessions. The rot may be as deep as in academia. After spending the past year and half under intense medical care, and it to continue for at least 5 years, if I make it that far, makes me look a bit askance at my providers. However, they’ve never shown me a bit of such behavior, but politics was never a topic of conversation.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/major-nurses-union-holds-secretive-training-sessions-to-fight-against-ice?topStoryPosition=undefined&author=Amanda+Prestigiacomo&category=News&elementPosition=1&row=1&rowHeadline=Top+Stories&rowType=Top+Stories&title=Major+Nurses+Union+Holds+Secretive+Training+Sessions+To+%E2%80%98Fight+Against+ICE%E2%80%99

  23. Cont’d–Then, there are the consequences for their families–both immediate family and larger, extended family.

    If they’re married, does their spouse share their viewpoint, and know what they are going to do?

    What happens when psycho’s income drops to zero, and they no longer have professional licensure, how does that effect their family–financially, emotionally?

    Any kids in college, and tuition bills to pay?

    Seeing their videos would anyone, especially in the health care field, take a chance on hiring them for any position?

    (Given what they’ve said, I wouldn’t be surprised if some lawyers were already getting inquiries from people who were their patients, and who had less than stellar results from their treatment.)

  24. When people do such nutty stuff–combining the threats to ICE, for example with public professions–one has to wonder why they think there will be no negative results.
    Either these flakes can’t, or don’t think it’s necessary, to read the room. Not everybody believes as they do, right? Right? Did they not know there would be push back?
    Or they see so many getting away with it as a general rule that they’d be okay, too.

    Perhaps they don’t grok the difference between the nurses’ lounge and the internet?

  25. “Add therapists to the list. Though a small sample size, there have been therapists who support the not treating conservative clients who are MAGA. It’s one thing to be conservative but it’s a new level if you’re MAGA to them.”

    Indeed, Pamela Garfield-Jaeger, “The Truthful Therapist,” has posted a great deal about this. And not only are the therapists having problems with treating “MAGA” clients, there are therapists claiming that you cannot BE a therapist if you are on the right.

    I think fundamentally the problem is that the left is evil and has made every aspect of the human experience – even emotions themselves – political. (Think about how “empathy” is a political position to them.) So of course your job, even if it is in a “healing” profession, is political.

  26. when they have conquered the commanding heights in the professions, in all the spokes I have recited ad infinitum, why would they fear,

    in red states like florida and probably texas, there are restraints on their exuberance, (as I have been reminded all that code, in the url, reveals data,)

    i remember in 2000 and 2004, and then in 2016, there was a whole lot of derangement, because W and then Orange Man, won,

    some respectable folk like dershowitz, and the late vincent bugliosi lost their minds for a time, in rather baroque ways, some extending to family members like Jeb and officials like Katherine Harris,

    ah the Proud Boys one of the few fighting forces againt Antifa, the Boogaloo boys were leftists who were mischaracterized,

    the examples you cited, were so sparse, as opposed to leftist antagonism are almost not worth noting, but the Feds tried to wrap the former in a lawfare blanket nonetheless,

  27. Miguel,
    “In red states like florida and probably texas, there are restraints on their exuberance.”
    As you can guess, that’s less true in the cities — Austin, San Antonio, Houston, …
    And Tallahassee, Tampa, … etc.

    Before COVID, looking for a counselor, most all who were “accepting new clients” were advertising they focused on LGBT-xyz community.
    I think it’s even worse, now.
    DEI and “social justice” are hugely promoted.

  28. miguel cervantes on January 31, 2026 at 1:31 pm:
    ” (as I have been reminded all that code, in the url, reveals data,)”
    Some time back someone here (perhaps Huxley?) noted that those long URL’s can be truncated to just the portion to the left of the “?”. The “?” itself and the text to the right can be discarded with no impact on providing a valid URL web address. I have found that advice to be helpful in my cutting and pasting, so thought it useful to repeat it here again. 🙂

    I don’t recall just what info is contained in all of that extra text, so if someone knows the answer, I would welcome that further clarification. Something about your email or browser connectivity?

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  31. R2L , yesterday @ 11:53 pm:
    About long ugly URL’s:
    “I don’t recall just what info is contained in all of that extra text, so if someone knows the answer, I would welcome that further clarification. Something about your email or browser connectivity?”

    Those long ugly strings contain info of multiple kinds. Usually not important if one just wants to share a web page for an article or a product.
    It’s important if a product link will provide some money for the blog or website owner where you clicked to shop.
    And sometimes useful if the article is published at a subscription-based site, if the subscriber is allowed to share a few articles. Aiding the subscription site by enticing / advertising.
    I believe most of the crazy, long URL strings are your “travel”data ( how you got to a page), and possibly: worse invasive data, spitting on our privacy.
    May be other purposed data, if people want to jump in.

  32. I’m not sure about the USA but doctors in Australia now use the oath below.

    Refer to the 2nd last item and then think about how doctors in Australia treated people with respect to the Covid vaccines.

    “I WILL NOT USE my medical knowledge to violate human rights and civil liberties, even under threat;”

    “WMA Declaration of Geneva

    Adopted by the 2nd General Assembly of the World Medical Association, Geneva, Switzerland, September 1948
    and amended by the 22nd World Medical Assembly, Sydney, Australia, August 1968
    and the 35th World Medical Assembly, Venice, Italy, October 1983
    and the 46th WMA General Assembly, Stockholm, Sweden, September 1994
    and editorially revised by the 170th WMA Council Session, Divonne-les-Bains, France, May 2005
    and the 173rd WMA Council Session, Divonne-les-Bains, France, May 2006
    and amended by the 68th WMA General Assembly, Chicago, United States, October 2017

    The Physician’s Pledge

    AS A MEMBER OF THE MEDICAL PROFESSION:

    I SOLEMNLY PLEDGE to dedicate my life to the service of humanity;

    THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF MY PATIENT will be my first consideration;

    I WILL RESPECT the autonomy and dignity of my patient;

    I WILL MAINTAIN the utmost respect for human life;

    I WILL NOT PERMIT considerations of age, disease or disability, creed, ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race, sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene between my duty and my patient;

    I WILL RESPECT the secrets that are confided in me, even after the patient has died;

    I WILL PRACTISE my profession with conscience and dignity and in accordance with good medical practice;

    I WILL FOSTER the honour and noble traditions of the medical profession;

    I WILL GIVE to my teachers, colleagues, and students the respect and gratitude that is their due;

    I WILL SHARE my medical knowledge for the benefit of the patient and the advancement of healthcare;

    I WILL ATTEND TO my own health, well-being, and abilities in order to provide care of the highest standard;

    I WILL NOT USE my medical knowledge to violate human rights and civil liberties, even under threat;

    I MAKE THESE PROMISES solemnly, freely, and upon my honour.”

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