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The press would rather you think them abysmally stupid than deeply mendacious — 23 Comments

  1. “Abysmally stupid…”? “…deeply mendacious…”? From what I can see this looks like a clear cut case of “BOTH”!

  2. Let’s not forget (c) both S Stupid and L Liars.

    The real question is whether your “liberal” Dem media believing friends think they were stupid or lyin’?

    Many probably did lie to themselves, and believe their own lies. This is a super power all smart folk have, ability to lie to themselves and believe their own lies.

    Those folks should not be believed, and the producers / owners who fail to fire such stupid liars should be told that their acceptance of liars as employees is an indication that they care too little about the T truth.

  3. Yeah, my 10,000 foot read remains that they lied. Of course I’m more than willing to accept that a small percentage of them were/are truly stupid, gormless, and gullible. I have such a low opinion of their intelligence to begin with. But I find it hard to believe that most of them are truly that stupid. But either way, it’s entertaining to watch them flail with these increasingly desperate attempts to restore any credibility that they can.

    I can honestly say that in my entire life I’ve never seen both the Legacy Media and the Democrat party in such a state of dissarray and confusion. At this point it seems as if they’re unable and unwilling to abandon positions that have been thoroughly rejected by a solid majority of voters. At this time they don’t appear to have any credible leaders that might appeal to a majority of voters outside of their deep blue enclaves. I’m unsure what the future will hold, but I suspect it may take a long time for the Democrat party to reinvent itself in a way that is appealing. At this point their only platform seems to be to continue to resist Trump in all things whether rational or not, which usually results in them taking the irrational side of the argument. Their only hope is for Trump to screw something up horribly, and/or for some sort of Black Swan event that flips the game board in a way they can take advantage of it. Only time will tell.

  4. How can the press keep lying if the press admits it has been lying?

    One must think these things through.

  5. Of course they lied. Either that or they are just massively unqualified and lacking skill in the job track, JOURNALIST, they have chosen and are paid to do.

  6. I think it’s more a matter of the Media having concluded that the easiest, most virtuous, most satisfying way out of this (just another) self-made moral morass is to shout from the rooftops, “We were VICTIMS too…just like YOU!”
    “We wuz DUPED…just like YOU!!”
    “We wuz DECEIVED…just like YOU!!!

    (Because only Trump and his Fascist minions have agency…and if they’ve done nothing wrong, why then just make it up…or frame ‘em…)

    Guess one could always call it the “Bitburg Defense”…

    File under: We’re ALWAYS RIGHT, NEVER WRONG. It’s not—it can’t be—OUR fault that we were found out…

  7. I’m guessing that cops are familiar with this kind of baloney from perps. “I didn’t steal that lady’s purse! I found it on the ground and didn’t know it was wrong for me to keep it!”

  8. “but they must think the American public is cognitively challenged.”

    Well … near on half the country voted for Harris, so they aren’t really wrong, are they?

  9. Indeed. They are attempting to avoid being held responsible by suggesting they were duped too. Responsibility comes in many forms including lack of credibility leading to no viewers. See CNN now getting less the 500,000 viewers a night.

  10. They were deceived? Huh. I seem to remember a number of journalists going on at great length at how sharp Joe Biden was, the ‘best shape ever’ they were saying. ‘Sharp as a tack’, they were saying. That doesn’t sound like a deceived person, that sounds like a journalist that took a long, hard look and was convinced – as a trained professional journalist. And is now communicating what they, as a trained, fact-finding investigator, are being paid to do.

    So it begs a question: If a journalist is capable of being so profoundly wrong, about something that is apparently so patently obvious to a normal person, an industry outsider, then: Why would you ever consider trusting a word they say on any subject, ever again? Why even bother to listen?

    It doesn’t matter if they’re stupid or lying; They’re wrong ! Now everybody knows.

  11. Herroner the Mayor in a new Peter Pan production, singing…

    I can lie, I can lie, I CAN LIE!!!

    “Qatar Paid D.C. Mayor Bowser $61,930 to Visit Middle East in 2023;
    “The investigation revealed that Bowser has not turned in any travel expense records. Bowser never turned in records for her trips to the Master’s tournament, Las Vegas, Mar-a-Lago, Dubai, or Doha”—
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/04/qatar-paid-d-c-mayor-bowser-61930-to-visit-middle-east-in-2023/

    Hmm. Seems to be a favorite theme song for quite a few mayors from coast to coast….

  12. No. The Propaganda Media (TM) is simply evil. They teach prog advocacy in J-School and all the profs are either explicitly Marxist or implicitly so.

    A brilliant buddy of mine did his Master’s in media studies and journalism, graduating in 2010 at the University of Colorado at Boulder. Out of a class of 46, he was the only non-leftist grad student there.

    So, Evil it is. The once honorable scribes are now Paid to Lie to you fools. Do not be their victims. Rebel.

  13. I think there are 2 tiers:

    1. The media knowingly lied to serve The Movement. Many of them suckled on Marxism in journalism school. One sees the same hard-core attitude in graduates of education school.

    2. The theory of the closed information silo/bubble that prevents certain thoughts from entering into consciousness better describes the people who still believe the media – especially college-educated people who embrace/parade a set of beliefs as confirming their identity and status. They will never stray from their trusted news sources and socially-constructed opinions.

  14. Lately, my husband and his mother have been talking politics a lot. In her VIEWS, she’s more conservative than he is – you should hear her thoughts on illegal immigrants! But she absolutely hates Trump and thinks everything he does is either stupid or criminal. So my husband has been at some pains to give her the facts behind stories she “knows” are “true” from her husband’s reading of USA Today and watching of MSNBC, like the Albrego Garcia one.

    She really believed that he was nothing but an unassuming Maryland guy who was disappeared by the administration. She knew nothing of his apparent gang membership, his prior hearings, his deportation order, the fact that it was temporarily blocked because a RIVAL gang would threaten his life if he returned to El Salvador (hard to have a rival gang if you’re not in a gang) back then, the domestic abuse complaints, the informant, his MS-13 companions when he was picked up back in 2019, his being stopped on his way from Texas back to the Mid-Atlantic driving an inexplicably large group of… whoever they were… Nothing.

    When she heard all of this, she was shocked, and declared, “Well, they need to do a better job of getting their side of the story out!”

    So then, my husband informed her about the percentage of journalists’ donations that go to Democrat candidates and causes versus Republican ones.

    Why he’s chipping away at an 80yo apolitical person’s viewpoints, I don’t know – maybe because unlike more “informed” people, she’s his mom and will listen. But my point is:

    OF COURSE THEY KNEW. And,

    OF COURSE THEY WILLFULLY DECEIVED THE PUBLIC.

    But that same public doesn’t even know this conversation is going on. In the network-news-trained goldfish-memory of much of the American electorate, who’s Biden? Wasn’t he president before? Oh well, he’s gone now – seems to me that something weird prompted his lack of reelection but they can’t… quite… remember… what.

    The biggest political scandal in American history, ISTM, and we’re trained by the news to expect 3 minutes on it (if that – and remember, if it doesn’t make the news, it’s not news – thanks again, Uncle Walter) and then move on to the weekend weather outlook.

    I’m still so angry about this.

  15. @ Jamie > “But that same public doesn’t even know this conversation is going on”

    This is the major problem facing conservatives and/or Republicans: that the basically honest, concerned, patriotic Democrats (and lots of Independents and even Republicans) never hear “the rest of the story” and it takes forever to get them up to date, if they are even willing to listen, or to believe even documented evidence when they do at least let you discuss the subject.

    Your husband is very lucky that his mom was willing to hear him out.

    The ones who are willing to listen and look at evidence are the former-Democrats fleeing the plantation for Trump, and hopefully other solid GOP candidates.

    OF COURSE THEY KNEW. And,
    OF COURSE THEY WILLFULLY DECEIVED THE PUBLIC.

    Can I get that on a t-shirt?

  16. @ Ben David > “I think there are 2 tiers:”

    It is somewhat serendipitous that Neo and the commenters have recently addressed both tiers:
    (1) See the biographies of David Horowitz.
    (h/t David Foster)
    https://x.com/bhorowitz/status/1917383970498699610

    (2) The Ruthless podcast “Did Journos Really “Miss” Biden’s Health Issues? – WHCA Dinner” where they specifically discuss the Democrat echo chamber.
    https://ruthlesspodcast.com/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HADHQfd8Cg

  17. @ Ben David: “The theory of the closed information silo/bubble that prevents certain thoughts from entering into consciousness better describes the people who still believe the media – especially college-educated people who embrace/parade a set of beliefs as confirming their identity and status.”

    Sometimes I wonder if my own immersion in basically anti-leftist and/or moderate conservative blogs, publications, or other sources is not also a silo of sorts. But time is short, so I end up relying on some of those sites (including this one) to have a plurality of views and exposures of the leftists/ progressives, a reasonable critique of what is found there, and the occasional summaries of other conservative voices that I don’t normally follow. Plus, as we move towards even more “hard right” expressions and exposures (Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, Tom Klingenstein, et al.?) I have to stop and ask “is this just a little too far, too wild, too weird to truly believe?” But I am finding myself being persuaded that things could be “really serious” and that our constitutional protections of shared power, etc., are [were?] very close to being taken down or bypassed. [I think Neo has a newer posting on the Harris/Walz abyss that we just missed, but I have not read that yet.] We are still witnessing the struggle of the executive and judicial elements of the administrative state [and IC deep state] to retain power, with for me a lot more success than I would like to see (so far).

    I am surprised that the conservatively oriented media are not making more of the “discovery” of the Leftists use of government funding of NGO’s, etc., as slush funds to advance their causes. But I previously was under the impression that “fraud, waste, and abuse” was certainly present, but not a major issue compared to entitlement and other deficit spending. Post DOGE, I can now appreciate the power and influence of a few billion $’s being spread around “among friends”. Very close to Lenin’s “they will sell us the rope with which we will hang them”.

    In regard to the media, as boomers we still watch NBC News more out of habit than wisdom, but it is clear they lie a great deal by omission, cram a bunch of quick stories of no real depth into the first 15 minutes, then fill the rest of the half hour with commercials and junk.

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