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SCOTUS orders temporary halt of deportations of aliens under Alien Enemies act — 24 Comments

  1. The Democrats intention is to bring Trump’s deportations to a crawl. They allowed those illegals in for a reason (new voters and cultural destruction) and they’re not about to let Trump thwart their plan.

    Congress will have to get busy and write some laws that will allow immediate deportation of any illegal alien with even a hint of gang/drug/trafficking/etc. activity.

    The faux outrage over due process is just that – FAUX. Did they care about due process for Jan 6ers?

  2. I’d sooner “that will allow immediate deportation of any illegal alien” period.

  3. Guess we are going to get stuck with 20 million Illegals
    We are under the Marxists Commissars who happen to wear robes now

  4. There are other things that can be done with respect to illegal immigrants; I’m not sure if any can be done by executive order or require Congress to vote.
    25% or higher tax on remittances to foreign nations.
    Withholding social services to people illegally here- all but truly emergent medical care, shelter, education.
    Withhold all federal aid to sanctuary cities and states.
    I’m sure there are others.
    At this point, the gates have been closed, a good start. People will respond to incentives.

    If Congress does not pass appropriate legislation, Trump could make this a major issue in 2026 election to reverse the usual pattern of the President’s party losing seats in midterms. Trump has been beating the tar out of the Dems on the Kilmar deal, and the Dems show no sign of recognizing that they are only digging themselves a bigger hole by lionizing that Young Man of Maryland.

  5. IMO, the Supreme Court does not have the Constitutional authority to obstruct the Executive Branch from enforcing the law. When simply an issue of illegal immigration, between apprehension and deportation there is no ‘point of entry’ for the judicial system. To argue otherwise is to essentially claim that as soon as an illegal ‘immigrant’ steps across the border, they have the same basic rights as a US citizen. In which case, ‘citizenship’ is nearly a meaningless word. As the only meaningful constitutional difference between a citizen and a foreign national is the right to vote in State and federal elections.
    US citizens have a right to due process. Foreign nationals who are here illegally are by definition, criminals and do not have a right to due process for that crime. If they wish to claim asylum, they may do so through the legal process after being deported. They have but one option; return to their country of origin or any country that will accept them.

  6. “The Biden administration deported over 600,000 during his term.”

    That sounds impressive until you consider it let in many millions of illegals during “his” term. Or whoever of the unelected cabal was actually running the government in place of the dotard.

  7. Let’s hope Trump & Co. can expedite this:

    “TRUMP’S CIVIL SERVICE REFORM IS BAAACCCKKKK!!!! It was called “Schedule F” late in Trump’s first Oval Office go-round, but the much-revised and improved version released late Friday in his second term is known as “Schedule Policy/Careers,” or SPC….”
    https://instapundit.com/715365/

    + Bonus:
    “Trump’s Counter-Revolution Strategy: Flood The Zone, Drain The Swamp”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trumps-counter-revolution-strategy-flood-zone-drain-swamp

    And…related:
    “Lab Leak: White House Unveils Massive Report On The True Origins Of COVID 19”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-versus-meteor

    Short version: The Courts are going to have their hands full trying to continue to PROTECT the Democratic Party’s PERVERSE POLICIES as well as PLACE A FIREWALL AROUND THE COVERUPS. (But they will no doubt do their bestest….)

  8. Congress needs to pass some new law specifically about the deportation process to speed it up.
    There should probably be an increase in the number of Federal Judges so as to have more—lots more Republicans on the benches would likely help, As well as bother Dems.

    Aren’t there laws against employers employing illegals? The DoJ going after some of those, even some Rep owned, especially in sanctuary cities, would send a good message. DOGE cleaning up the SS files is also good.

    If the border remains closed to illegals, a slow fight with courts makes Trump look pretty good, but Reps in Congress weak. More bad than good for 2026.

    Most of what Trump is doing, or trying to do, is what I voted for.

  9. FOAF
    That wasn’t my point. I don’t think there were any complaints from the Dems about due process. So all 600,000 received relentless due process?

  10. @Tom Grey:Aren’t there laws against employers employing illegals?

    Lot so people think this, but that is not how the laws work. Few people seem to have actually gone through the formal process of hiring someone and checking their status:

    Your employer may not:

    …Refuse to accept your document or refuse to hire you because of an unfounded suspicion that your documentation is fraudulent. For example, your employer may not refuse to accept your identification and unrestricted Social Security card because you have limited English proficiency.

    Treat you differently than other applicants because you have, or your employer believes you have, a particular citizenship or immigration status.

    Ask to see documents showing your permission to work before hiring you, or before you complete Section 1 of Form I-9.

    Refuse to accept your document or refuse to hire you because your document expires in the future.

    Limit jobs to U.S. citizens unless U.S. citizenship is required by law or government contract….

    I have, and indeed I was in charge of E-Verify for one small business.

    The Employer is strictly prohibited from creating an E-Verify case before the employee has been hired, meaning that a firm offer of employment was extended and accepted and Form I-9 was completed….

    The Employer agrees not to use E-Verify for pre-employment screening of job applicants…

    The Employer understands that such illegal practices can include selective verification or use of E-Verify except as provided in part D below, or discharging or refusing to hire employees because they appear or sound “foreign” or have received tentative nonconfirmations. The Employer further understands that any violation of the immigration-related unfair employment practices provisions in section 274B of the INA could subject the Employer to civil penalties, back pay awards, and other sanctions, and violations of Title VII could subject the Employer to back pay awards, compensatory and punitive damages…

    It is illegal to check if someone is here illegally until after you have hired the person. It is not illegal to hire or employ an illegal. It is illegal, a Title VII violation, to refuse to hire someone because you think they might be illegal. It is illegal to request proof of employment eligibility before you hire. There are many laws that require an employer to hire, and prevent an employer from firing, someone who may be illegal.

    If E-Verify can’t confirm eligibility, it is perfectly legal to continue to employ that person. It is illegal to fire them simply because E-Verify says there’s a problem with their documents.

    It is illegal to knowingly and deliberately hire an illegal, and it is illegal to pay people under the table. But if they apply and go through your screening and interview process and get hired and you document everything appropriately, you as an employer have done nothing illegal if they turn out to be illegal, you have been following the laws.

  11. @neo:Which brings us to the subject of the filibuster/cloture rules. For this vote, perhaps the GOP would change the rules?

    If they are serious, they will: judge them accordingly…

    A numerical majority has multiple techniques for a one-time set aside of the cloture rule, which have been used before whenever drama is not desired. For example, they can incorporate the bill into a bill that can’t be filibustered. They can also demand that cloture be invoked, and then when the chair rules against them they can appeal the ruling to the majority. They will almost certainly not formally change the Senate rules.

    If they want to do GOPe failure theater, they will claim the Senate Parliamentarian (who can be overruled by a numerical majority, or fired by the Majority Leader) won’t let them get the bill through, or have a big to-do over a cloture vote that misses by that much. Judge them accordingly…

  12. Question for Niketas C (or anyone who knows this stuff):
    Can the law/regulation be changed to require that every new hire go through e-verify prior to starting work? It might require Elon’s guys to set up a fast, easy and intuitive website, but it certainly should be possible to do this is a month or so.
    Following the e-verify check, the hiring entity gets a confirmation number to attach to the new hire’s file. That’s the carrot- a safe harbor for the company.
    The stick is that if the company fails to get a legit confirmation number, any expenses that company claims for that employee’s wages and benefits becomes tax fraud, and the IRS is sicced on that company.

    Is the current e-verify policy as described by Niketas written into law, or is it just a Labor Dept regulation that can be (more or less) easily changed?

  13. The e-verify stuff above shows the feds actually protect illegal labor while pretending not to.

  14. Just read Volokh before sdferr posted it. Lawless SCOTUS is the short summary. Now if this lawless order ends up taking out SCOTUS that might be hoisted by one’s petard. But only if it was a trap laid by Trump.

    BTW this is line from Hamlet
    “For ’tis the sport to have the enginer
    Hoist with his own petard; and ‘t shall go hard
    But I will delve one yard below their mines
    And blow them at the moon.”

    A modern version might be

    The combat engineer will be killed by his own demolition charge because I will preemptively detonate it by counter mining under him.

  15. @West Texas Intermediate Crude:Can the law/regulation be changed to require that every new hire go through e-verify prior to starting work?

    Any law can always be changed, of course, but E-Verify is not instant. It can take weeks. DOGE is a handful of people and they can’t just build you a secure online system to instantly verify employment eligibility, though there are any number of software companies that can.

    But you don’t need an elite team of hackers anyway. If your Social Security card could be scanned and instantly accepted or declined, the way every gas station and newstand can with credit cards, there would be very few problems.

    Is the current e-verify policy as described by Niketas written into law

    I quoted from the MOU, but the MOU is intended to be in compliance with all of the relevant laws. The MOU says “do it this way and Department of Labor will not sue or prosecute you”.

    It’s complicated in that sometimes “the law” doesn’t explicitly say one thing somewhere: you have to “stitch together” bit and pieces that add up to the thing. Usually judges have done the stitching in how they ruled on cases. Employers rely on guidance from the Federal departments that are in charge of suing and prosecuting people.

  16. Actually, van Halen probably didn’t quite understand the question, the interviewer having phrased it rather poorly.

    (As they say in the business, a negative interrogative is not a prime perogative…)

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