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  1. Lee Smith, Tablet Mag, “Biden’s Phony Saudi-Israeli Peace Deal — The point of the U.S. deal isn’t peace. It’s to prevent the two American allies from coming together, while subordinating them both to Iran.”: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/biden-phony-saudi-israel-peace-deal

    For more than a year the Joe Biden administration has been parading what it calls a “historic agreement” in front of longtime U.S. regional allies Israel and Saudi Arabia. If it seems odd that a president who called Saudi a “pariah” state, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu an “asshole” now sees Jerusalem and Riyadh as the ingredients for a major foreign policy win in an election year, that’s because the agreement on offer is not a Middle East peace deal. Rather, it’s an instrument to consolidate the Democratic Party’s control of U.S. foreign policy while formally subordinating its two longtime Middle Eastern allies to Iran.

    The Biden administration’s regional policy is charged with completing the project initiated by Barack Obama. The endgame is to fold traditional U.S. partners into a new Middle East hierarchy dominated by the Islamic Republic of Iran and its terror proxies, including Hezbollah and the Houthis in Yemen. The new American-backed, Iranian-led regional order requires breaking Israeli sovereignty and getting Saudi to accept revisions to its 80-year-old relationship with Washington. While Netanyahu is resisting the yoke, the Saudis seem to be willing to submit in the hope that it won’t be too late to revise their status again when, or if, Trump returns.

  2. Art – I read about the United incident in another publication. I simply will not fly United. I stopped after their announcement that they would begin hiring PILOTS using diversity as a component of the hiring process. When I lived in South Africa SAA made the same announcement, and I never flew on them again.

    Good riddance to United.

  3. United claims that dispute was about “excess carry on luggage” and that the three passengers took a later flight. Who knows? Meanwhile, Libs of Tik Tok, on X, has a video which she says is the CEO of United Airlines performing as a drag queen/furry. She also has video of the CEO in street clothes talking about how he discriminates in favor of minorities in hiring. She’s usually reliable, and if that dance video isn’t the CEO she’s in big trouble.

  4. miguel re Bensman tweet:

    Maybe because the “Jordanian” is really a Palestinian? Heck, they all are …

  5. or maybe Saudi the borders are very porous over there, if one knew the name, one might grok which tribe which clan,

  6. Re: Beam gymnastics

    The video is a great demonstration that you get what you incentivize.

    It’s clear that all these changes resulted from rule changes in how a beam performance is scored by judges, and not driven by breakthroughs in athletic performance or by changes in taste.

    I know this happens in other sports, e.g. the three-pointer in basketball, but this seems more pervasive, arbitrary and lacking transparency. I find it disquieting.

    From watching neo’s ballet videos there seems to be an even more hidden group of influencers operating in ballet. If those influencers favored a Maya Plisetskaya style, we would be seeing it more today.

    But wherever that demand comes from, we are instead getting ballet which favors a more physically extreme style as opposed to aesthetic.

    neo is, of course, welcome to set me straight.

  7. “borders are very porous over there” [Middle East]

    Yes that is one of the ironies of the insistence Palestinians must have a state of their own. Most of the other states there do not consist of distinct nationalities the way we think of Europe but are conglomerations of tribes and sects, often at odds with each other – Lebanon, Syria, Iraq. Even in Europe the lines have not always been as clean as we like to think.

  8. The overarching Obama and now Biden policy in the Middle East with respect to Iran has got to be the most underreported story of the 21st century. Because if the American people knew Dems would be lucky to get 10% of the vote.

  9. The overarching Obama and now Biden policy in the Middle East with respect to Iran has got to be the most underreported story of the 21st century.

    FOAF:

    Agreed. It took me a bit of time to get my head around the notion, that Obama’s genius foreign policy move was to make Iran hegemon of the Middle East. To Israel’s detriment of course.

    The biggest obstacle, as noted by sdferr’s link, is an alliance between Israel and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are Muslims, but they are Sunni, and as such are traditional blood rivals to the Shia in Iran.

    The secret to October 7 isn’t just the Palestinian genocidal hatred of Israel, but the increasing closeness of Israel and Saudi Arabia to the detriment of Hamas’s puppet masters in Iran.

  10. FOAF, the all too germanized Pomeranians were not so politely driven out of eastern Pomerania.

    Wikipedia
    “…After World War II, most of the former Province of Pomerania became Polish, and nearly all Pomeranians living east of the Oder-Neisse line fled or were expelled to post-war Germany. “

  11. as I noted from apocryphal notes relayed to the author of inside the kingdom, robert lacey, which I concluded came from jamal khashoggi, the saudis thought
    they could turn obama, as they thought w hadn’t treated them with enough respect, but he already considered them inauthentic Moslems, so Iran was the next step,

  12. Megyn Kelly will interview Steve Bannon tomorrow. This is going to be a very interesting conversation, given how he was behind the effort to axe her from Fox at the very same time Trump and Roger Ailes were going at it.
    This is going to reveal a lot about who Steve Bannon is, IMO.
    Megyn Kelly Previews Her Interview with Steve Bannon – Her First On-Camera Conversation With Him
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciB5yGiNkbk

  13. Replacement migration
    Not to be confused with white replacement migration, a white supremacist conspiracy theory.
    In demography, replacement migration is a theory of migration needed for a region to achieve a particular objective (demographic, economic or social).

    This was one of several issues touched on in Tucker Carlson’s recent Q&A with Australian reporters. As the exchange revealed, the media is keen to falsely spin any objection to replacement policies as racist. Tucker suggests that governments should address underlying economic reasons for low domestic reproductive rates before grabbing the “quick sugar fix” of mass immigration.

  14. There’s a video clip circulating on FoxNews featuring Bill Maher. In response to the question, (briefly and grossly paraphrased) “How do you explain people liking/wanting Trump?” he responds “Part of it, the left has to own. They are aggressively anti-common sense.” He then proceeds to rip the left. Quite a litany, closing with, “Your ideas [the left’s] are stupid.”

    View time 12:55 TO 14:40
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_cDuvSdJEM

    Of course, he’s not doing the full Dershowitz which would get him excommunicated from the cult of the left.

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