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  1. Been thinking about building your own desktop PC? Here’s a few tips:

    PCPartPicker – Register ‘n start the build and save as you proceed. The “Saved Parts Lists” at top is where builds get saved. Their Parts List gives you a good order to go in—CPU, CPU Cooler, and Motherboard are usually my first also. Double check & Triple check is safer and sites like Amazon & Newegg also have helpful build & compatibility assistants (B&H also offers good prices).

    • I’ve stopped using AMD processors and only recommend Intel for a CPU. Nvidia can’t be beat and most all the brands of it are fine. Gaming drives the parts & components – which can mean lots of RGB lighting, so don’t buy parts with RGB lighting (example: memory, fans, coolers, etc.) if you don’t want it. Hard to get past cases & motherboards (AKA MoBo) w/o RGB, but those are usually easy to shutoff. Get a good case, which can be difficult, and if you like it then it can be reused in future builds. I throw an older build’s MoBo—intact, into another case (cheaper), and do new builds in my favorite case. I also reuse a lot of memory in new build—as long as it is fairly new.

    • Here is Part 1 of my Intel® Core™ i9-13900K build series from last year. UserBenchmark is a great Quadruple check for a build – they also have a great build & compatability section. My last build has UFO results for Gaming, Desktop, and Workstation – in the “87th percentile” of builds, meaning 13 other builds performed better…not bad for an amateur. Am not a gamer so my builds can be overkill. 🙂

    • For the Windows OSes I buy OEM licenses from sites like: URcdkey (Win11 Pro for $29.15 or Win10 Pro for $20.57), VIP-Urcdkey (my favorite), or Kinguin (OEM Win11 Pro for $25.19). OEM licenses can only be used for one MoBo. Licenses are all legal, usually purchased from places like Dell, Lenovo, Acer, etc. who over order for builds in a certain year. They send you a CD key for the windows version, and usually give instructions on how to activate it. Never had an issue activating any of them. I don’t usually use the internet when installing (paranoid that it won’t activate), then activate it after installing. Once it is activated on that MoBo, then I sometimes do another clean install before adding a bunch of apps ‘n stuff to the first test install. Paranoid causes me extra work… 🙂 Oh, I use the free LibreOffice office suite, but those sites also offer much cheaper licenses for various MS Office versions.

  2. There is a long opinion piece at cnn.com (https://tinyurl.com/565wp6zb) by a “Distinguished Professor” of something or other at the U of Texas dealing with “What conservatives don’t get about the protests roiling college campuses.”
    Dr. Suri longs for the good old days when there was respectful dialog between leftists and their conservative counterparts. GW Bush is no longer Bushitler; he is lauded for “respecting” campus life. His successor as governor, RIck Perry was the absolute worst, that is, until Greg Abbott followed Perry and is now the Emmanuel Goldstein of the higher educational world.
    Nowhere is his piece does Dr. Suri consider that conservatives actually do “get it.”
    We tried to listen constructively for decades, saw the results, and are now firmly rejecting the mess that leftists have made everywhere.
    Cocooned in their tenure-protected bubble, they believe that it is inconceivable that any intelligent person could ever disagree with their worldview. Dr. Suri writes well, expresses himself clearly, and firmly believes that there is simply no excuse for objecting to DEI, or using law enforcement to enforce the law against illegal behavior by students or faculty. It is simply unacceptable for politicians to consider decreasing funding for their version of Truth.

    It’s worth reading, in order to reinforce what we are up against.

  3. ive come across his work before, maybe he doesn’t see clearly, if you are marching with palestinian tricolors, or the black islamic state sigils maybe you’re not really about free speech,

    i’m sure he was for locking down the unvaccinated and wore three masks and had thrice as many shots,

  4. Interesting thread at Twitter, beginning:

    “I’m a left-wing Jew. I’ve never been to Israel. I’ve abhorred Netanyahu for years. I’ve always wanted peace to prevail. And here’s how 7/10, yhe war, and the way “peace protestors” have changed the way I see things permanently….”

    https://twitter.com/skedeschi/status/1784891150677037482

    I made one short comment:

    “Much of the hate for Jews is closely coupled with hate for the United States, and, in many cases, for civilization in any form.”

    So far (since yesterday morning), that comment has received 868 ‘likes”…there a a few replies disagreeing, some hostile & some seeming slightly unhinged, but in general, a quite positive response.

  5. thats what netanyahu has been telling you for forty years, this is the fundamental misunderstanding that take abban ebban had, ‘palestinians do not miss opportunities’ we’ve had a hundred years to figure this out, nebi musa was more than a hundred years ago,

    I mean le carre, nee cornwell, is no longer alive to see how wrong he was, daniel silva,
    early on, indulged this notion that the circle of violence, was kept spinning by this spectre type society, and his first Allon novels were way too understanding of the plight of the palestinians,

    I was put off by some of his last works when he decided the Christians and of course Orange Man was the scourge of the age,

  6. So the demos are getting out of hand are they. Well, that’s a little too late. These are not the same as the 60’s demos against the War (my time in College, but no I did not demo). Those were against the War in VietNam. These are a War ON Jews, a specific group of people.
    Calling out Shame to the Cops doing their jobs is the real Shame. These hooligans (how’s that for an old word) think nothing should happen to them, they are protected. The Prof out there show just how far down the Uni’s have come.
    Compare what happened on Jan 6 to this today, and what the outcomes for the these idjits will be compared to J6.

  7. Another old man who is traveling rant:

    People in wheel chairs. Boarding a flight with 10 people in wheelchairs of whom 3 looked liked they actually needed such. The rest I observed getting up, walking around to restroom, snack etc, then back to their chairs as boarding neared. Of course they each had a family member to help them who boarded with them..especially aggravating when traveling Southwest without reserved seating. Not sure what the airline requires for such, or whether anyone can just claim a need.

  8. The administrators of these colleges should be repeatedly referred to as ” pathetic leaders.”
    Allowing a mob to shut down your campus , effecting thousands of other students.

  9. Aha, Neo has been mesmerized by the rhythmically rolling ball bearings. It’s like that Star Trek episode “The Game”. Good thing that video is so short! Imagine the ten-hour extended version. (On second thought, don’t.) Admittedly, it’s an intriguing physical phenomenon, anyway.

    Karmi, you seem to be pretty deep into the weeds there with computer construction. Interesting, though my eyes glaze over when it comes to advanced hardware discussions. 🙂 Since you mentioned LibreOffice and I hadn’t really thought about it before, it makes me wonder whether I should switch over to it from OpenOffice, which I’ve used for many years. Do you have a view on that?

  10. Bill Ackman still doesn’t quite get it…
    (To be fair, though, his forte is making money—IOW forging trust—so how could he possibly understand that the whole point of “Biden” is to DESTROY TRUST IN EVERY REALM as a major way to destroy the country?)….

    “Billionaire Ackman: Too Late to Dump Biden, Trump Rising”—
    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/bill-ackman-donald-trump-joe-biden/2024/04/29/id/1162809/

    To be sure, TRUST is a Racist, White-Supremacist, Colonialist construct of OPPRESSION….

  11. well ackman was part and parcel with his donations and other efforts, to building this semiotic chenga structure, and when he awoke rip van winkle, he lavished his efforts on the phillips kid, talk about burning money with a torch,

  12. West+TX+Intemediate+Crude calls attention to Dr Suri, a history prof at the University of Texas.

    I had a read, and there are several directions one could go to reply.

    Here is my first attempt:

    So, student Gaza and Palestinian Hamaz Jew Hating protest is because…Student Grievance Against Right-Wing pols who hate and defund Universities?

    Towards his conclusion, this Prof of Too Many Names (TM), draws an analogy about ‘60s student protests when students “felt ignored and attacked by politicians who supported the Vietnam War, and the university leaders who deferred to them.” And we’re getting ever closer to a tragic Kent State massacre moment — never mind that those then involved in this infamous student slaying were National Guardsmen, not police like today.

    He entirely misses the fact that those ‘60s era students abhorred the military draft to be squandered in an objectionable, possibly immoral, war. This was the source of its growth and real power in youth protests. In other words, self-interest prevailed with students, as proved by the recession of protest after the uncertainty of draft yielded to a lottery-draft, and then was abandoned entirely.

    In complete contrast today’s students face no ominous, obvious, unifying threats. Their only self-interest in defended “Free Palestine” is….what exactly? Ah. Pleasing the ardent activism thought by their Paulo Freire indoctrinating teachers, as in, Victims Unite! We Support our Masters Orders.

    He goes on: “We cannot let the current self-serving campaign that some politicians have waged against universities lead to the same results. We took a dangerous step in that direction last week.

    So, tell me again, dear Professor, exactly what does “Free Palestine” protest have to do with dire conditions on campus?

    The CNN Prof commentator concludes: “What we need are politicians who, despite their disagreements with liberal professors, are willing to stand up for the benefits received from their own university education….The time has come to end what has been a long political war on universities. It no longer benefits anyone, except those who truly want to destroy higher education and build their careers by repressing the free speech of young, talented citizens.”

    HUH? Or rather, WTF?
    ________________

    Another direction for criticism that I did not pursue is apposite. That traditional Higher Ed is in decline, with ever more institutions brankrupt and closing.

    And to meet real needs, parents are going private/charter schooling, up to 40%. And pace Glenn Reynolds, and the pandemic era proved, the internet is where real Socrates teach, edification is going.

    The Great Courses have been done and recorded, available online. How can “you” compete! We don’t need universities like yours to pass on literacy skills and Civilizational knowledge.

    Plus, this with college level testing, is far far cheaper than the institutional business model of the past, you imagine you’re defending.

    Therefore, your screed is irrelevant.

  13. Today in 1945 Adolf Hitler committed suicide. He was ten years late to have done any good with that act whatsoever, a nihilist to the very end.

  14. the deeper you dig, the least you are likely to find a pony,

    so it seems academic inquiry isn’t even attempted by dr suri, mind you kissinger was overrated as an academic and a policy maker, but when you engage in basically hogwarts type encantations for all the good it does,

    and thats being charitable, dei is a toxic solvent like sulfuric acid, same for the many green scheme that involved dirty cobalt mined by Warlords for Chinese overseers,

  15. Philip Sells – ‘..switch over to it from OpenOffice, which I’ve used for many years.

    Am definitely not an expert on Office Suites—pretty much limited to their word processors. 🙂 Had thought that OpenOffice was discontinued? You using an old version or Apache OpenOffice? If you’re using some old unsupported version of OpenOffice, then you might should switch.

    LibreOffice & Apache OpenOffice are offshoots of the original OpenOffice – both are free and fully supported – both should be fine.

    I moved over from MS Home & Student to LibreOffice about 3-4 years ago, after tiring of going thru MS when reactivating a license on a new build. Pain Pain Pain! 🙂 MS Office is better for professionals, but I’m fine w/ the LibreOffice opensource of office suites.

  16. Aaron Sibarium, a reporter for the Free Beacon, has an X thread about a Columbia classics professor, Joseph Howley, who has been openly supportive of the student protesters. Howley is leading a review of required coursework for all Columbia first-years. These students have been carefully taught to accept all the colonialism and other Marxist garbage they’re spewing.

    https://twitter.com/aaronsibarium/status/1785095322424750318

  17. Russia has been losing an average of 560 troops a day since they reinvaded Ukraine two+ years ago – Putin has lost 450,000 soldiers, 3,000 tanks & vehicles and nearly 500 aircraft in Ukraine, says UK intelligence – whatever aid we give the Ukrainians is well worth it!!! Those guys are pure Russian killers 🙂 🙂 🙂 Maybe they’ll even kill more if we insist on scalps before payment?!

    It is 100,000 more than the previous UK estimate shared in February by Britain’s Defence Intelligence.

    And Russia’s losses have surged to 1,300 troops a day in just the last two months.

  18. ah british intelligence, the people that gave us christopher steele and richard tomlinson, who libeled general flynn and miss lokhova, go on,

  19. Guess the GOP’s MAGA voters insistence on going w/ the troublesome Trump over Haley has possibly cost the GOP the chance of having the first female President of the United States of America.

    Is Kamala ‘Momala’ Harris now slated to be first female President of the United States of America? Jeez…

    Professor Allan Lichtman – Forecaster who’s predicted every presidential winner correctly for 40 YEARS reveals who he thinks will win 2024 election – says to ignore the polls showing Biden doing badly. Heck, I believe the midterm polls showed a “Red Wave” was coming not long ago, and it was barely a Red Ripple. Polls…Ditto on the Jeez!?

  20. I continue to be fascinated by the Columbia pro-Pali protests. Columbia has suspended media access to the campus while trying to end the encampment without the NYPD making any arrests. However, the protesters aren’t cooperating.
    ______________________________________

    Columbia University suspended media access to campus “as a safety measure” Tuesday morning, just hours after student protesters stormed a campus building, barricaded the entrance, and hoisted an “intifada” banner.

    “Media access to campus is suspended,” Columbia’s Office of Public Affairs announced in a 9 a.m. statement. “Campus is accessible only to CUID-holders and essential personnel as a safety measure and that includes media.”

    The move comes shortly after student protesters sowed chaos on campus overnight, when they stormed Hamilton Hall around 1 a.m.

    Masked individuals used hammers and other tools to open and barricade a door to the hall. They also used tables, chairs, and a human chain to block entry to the building. Once inside, students hung a banner from the building calling for “intifada” and chanted, “Settlers, settlers, go back home, Palestine is ours alone” and “Long live the intifada.”

    https://freebeacon.com/campus/columbia-suspends-media-access-to-campus-as-a-safety-measure/
    ______________________________________

    Rock meet hard place, not that I have any sympathy for the Columbia administration.

    Time to go Reagan on these people.

  21. Had thought that OpenOffice was discontinued? You using an old version or Apache OpenOffice?

    Karmi, I’ve consistently kept up to date with the Apache – well, as up-to-date as it’s ever going to get now, I guess (4.1.15). I didn’t realize it’s been 10 years since a new version. Checking over some general articles comparing AOO and LO, maybe it’s not imperative that I make the switch now. Still, something for the back pocket later.

  22. no of course not, this is dejavu on steroids in 68, the administration surrendered the following year the sds became the weathermen, and started bombing targets after the ‘days of rage,’ considering they are already ragey, I think they jumped forward a step,

    so 100,000 illegals later, who won anything in New York, for instance, is anyone safer in NYC except the muggers the murderers and rapists, the answer is no,

    how safe is it in California, when Gascon won, so called,

  23. West+TX+Intemediate+Crude calls attention to Dr Suri. Professor Suri dixit:

    This Republican war on universities is the essential history behind the current conflicts on campuses. The student protests and police crackdowns are a result of the attacks on universities since Bush’s presidency. These attacks have over the years undermined university leadership and provoked students, staff and faculty.

    The good [sarc] professor is apparently unaware of the causes of “This Republican war on universities.” A primary cause of dissatisfaction with the universities is the tendency these days on college campuses to cancel/ostracize those whose opinions that do not follow the “liberal” narrative de jour.

    Decades ago, University campuses were much more tolerant of dissenting opinions. Back in the day, I decided to educate myself about different points of view. To that end my magazine reading ranged from Ramparts to National Review. I recall reading a letter to the editor in National Review that the brother of a high school classmate had written. He wrote National Review to point out that as a conservative at liberal Columbia, his opinions were respected even though most fellow students disagreed with him. Today, as a conservative and a Jew, he would most likely be in danger on the Columbia campus.

    Consider this campus anecdote from the Vietnam War era. One professor put up a poster on his office door that was against the war in Vietnam. Two doors down, a professor put an American flag on his office door. The professor in the middle put a Demilitarized Zone sign on his door.

    Today on college campuses, such differences of opinion would not be tolerated.

    I find it hard to believe that the good [sarc] professor is unaware of this trend on college campuses.

    (as has already been pointed out, it is absurd to claim that the “current student protests…are a result of the attacks on universities since Bush’s presidency.” They are protesting to be cool, without knowing from nothing about the Palestine/Israel conflict.)

  24. Philip Sells – yeah, Apache OpenOffice is an offshoot of the discontinued OpenOffice (as is LibreOffice). Looks like you’re fine ‘n safe with Apache OO, and after 10 years should just stay w/ it.

  25. Re: Russian military death toll in Ukraine.

    It makes zero difference how many Russians die fighting in Ukraine. The Russian govt and their military does not care. They will keep throwing their soldiers into that meat grinder until Ukraine surrenders.
    The Russian way of war is to overwhelm the enemy with soldiers until their opponent is just worn out and surrenders, whatever the cost in Russian lives. There is no upper limit as to how many dead Russians are needed to prevail in Ukraine beyond which Russia will sue for peace.
    They never will.
    Ukraine will give up first because they will have no choice; they will be spent.

  26. “Much of the hate for Jews is closely coupled with hate for the United States, and, in many cases, for civilization in any form.” – David Foster

    That is the conclusion I’ve reached. This is basically anti-democracy and capitalism. It’s pro-dictatorship and authoritarianism of all sorts. They have no plan for the future except to destroy what we call Western Civilization. In the end, the various groups – Marxists, Putin-like authoritarians, Jihadis, anarchist’s,
    statists, Xi-like dictators, etc. – intend to run the show after they take down Western Civ. They will sort out their differences after Western Civ disappears. In other words, an endless cycle of violence.

    These people worship different deities, but raw power to command obedience to their various ideologies is their paramount goal.
    The world’s democracies need to recognize this and band together to defend against it. I hope it’s not too late.

    Another issue: “People in wheelchairs. Boarding a flight with 10 people in wheelchairs of whom 3 looked liked they actually needed such.” – physics guy

    I get it. My wife and I have been using wheelchairs in airports for the las three years. We are both mobile, but don’t have the stamina to walk the long distances required in most airports as well as standing in lines for long periods.

    We walked the airports through our 70s and 80s. Age has caught up with us. If the distances and lines weren’t so long, we could probably still gimp our way through.

    Unfortunately, although I’m 91, people say I look like I’m in my 60s. Thus, people give me dirty looks when I’m in a wheelchair. It’s a shame, because I really would prefer to still be hearty enough to deal with airports on my own. Sorry to be an annoyance to my fellow passengers.

  27. yes that semiotic bingo, makes no sense at all,

    if it was happening exclusively in red states like texas and florida for instance,
    maybe but that’s where its most tranquil,

  28. huxley

    I’ve forgotten why I switched from OpenOffice to LibreOffice.

    🙂 Yeah, I should’ve guess there would be more opensource Office Suite users here than other blogs. I also once used the now discontinued OpenOffice – maybe I stopped when it was discontinued. 😛 Apache OpenOffice is another offshoot of it…

  29. Show me the difference between a Biden and a Haley voter. I’ll wait. The GOP has nothing to do with Trump winning primaries- the GOP actively worked against Trump. The GOP colluded with the left to do whatever they could to get a Trump campaign derailed. You have serious delusions about reality, Karmi.

  30. JohnTyler

    They will keep throwing their soldiers into that meat grinder until Ukraine surrenders.

    Russia gave up after 10 or so years in Afghanistan – with a *LOT* fewer deaths. Yeah, Russia can be broken, and Ukraine is just the country that can do it, IMHO.

  31. This is tied to “Lissajous figures”, which is a more general form of the children’s toy the “Spirograph”… It’s a curve defined by a cyclical harmonic in the two axes, x and y, which have the same parameter driving them.

    x = f¹(t) = A sin (at+?)
    y = f²(t) = B sin (bt)

    So you feed numbers “t” into the above, and it gives you the spirograph-like shape of a Lissajous figure.

    For the above, you have each ball moving in a cyclic pattern which, much like a series of images on film, trick the eye into seeing apparent motion different from the actual motion.

  32. As to the campus protests, it’s real interesting how many of them have the exact same brand-new tents — even across different university protests — strongly suggesting that, instead of a grass-roots collection of protesters, with different students borrowing or digging out different camping supplies which everyone has obtained at various times and from different sources. No, these “protests” are a centralized push by an organization.

    I have to say I think quite well of the University of Florida admin, who has basically claimed their intent to enforce campus rules on these “protesters” as they would on any other people attempting to do what they are doing.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article288046345.html

    …And they appear to have backed it up:
    Police arrest 9 pro-Palestine protestors on UF campus
    Arrests follow five-day occupation of UF plaza by pro-Palestinian groups
    https://www.alligator.org/article/2024/04/police-arrest-9-pro-palestine-protestors-on-uf-campus

    They are, of course, getting a lot of crap over it by the lying merdia.

    They distributed a very clear letter telling them what the consequences would be, they waited patiently for five days to make sure word got around, and then they enforced the rules they’d set down.

    Dang, how DARE they?!?!?

  33. Karmi:

    Re: Russia, Ukraine, Afghanistan

    You cannot compare Ukraine to Afghanistan.

    Ukraine had been part of Russia since the 1700s and Putin certainly believes that Ukraine never had a right to become an independent nation. For the Russian govt, Ukraine IS part of Russia and always will be.

    About 10 years ago or so, my wife’s Russian work friend visited us here at my home. She was not some raving Russian nationalist, but she was adamant that Ukraine was part of Russia and that Ukraine never should have declared independence when the USSR fell apart in the early 1990s.

    Many Russians feel that way and Putin and his generals certainly do; they really believe they are taking back what has always belonged to Mother Russia.

    Afghanistan never had that “warm spot” within the Russian mind set.

  34. JohnTyler – Every country belongs to the Russians, according to them, just look at their history. 🙂 Ukraine belongs to the Ukrainians, and the Ukrainians are tired of their long murderous history w/ Russia. Ukraine has been fighting Russia since what, 2014 (?), and they are going to keep killing Russians as long as Russia sends them more Russians to kill. Keep killing the Russians until their “warm spot” grows cold – in the meanwhile, send the Ukrainians weapons that can easily reach Moscow…

  35. ”The Russian way of war is to overwhelm the enemy with soldiers until their opponent is just worn out and surrenders, whatever the cost in Russian lives.”

    So your solution is to force the Ukrainians to submit to their genocide?

    ”There is no upper limit as to how many dead Russians are needed to prevail in Ukraine beyond which Russia will sue for peace.”

    “If you kill enough of them, they’ll stop fighting.”

    – Curtis LeMay

    I’ll admit that that number is likely higher than the Ukrainians can manage with the weapons we’ve given them, but it doesn’t matter. Russia will run out of tanks and artillery before they run out of men. And when they do, they’ll stop fighting.

  36. Many Russians feel that way and Putin and his generals certainly do; they really believe they are taking back what has always belonged to Mother Russia.
    ==
    Have you run this by the people who actually live in the Ukraine?

  37. I really enjoyed this interview–Jordan Peterson w/Vivek Ramaswamy. Another one where Peterson is a good listener to the questions he poses. It is a “look-back” at Ramaswamy’s experience having entered the political fray; experience being an excellent teacher. The last portion with regard to Trump and what can be reasonably expected if elected, was informative and hopeful.

    https://youtu.be/XjK6LR7EaVs?si=xdRLP0wyYVj8hVT4

  38. ”Ukraine had been part of Russia since the 1700s…”

    So? In the 1700s Louisiana was a part of France. Does that give Macron the right to order the invasion of America and have his troops rape our women, take our children, and send our men to “filtration” camps to be “eliminated”?

    ”…and Putin certainly believes that Ukraine never had a right to become an independent nation.”

    So? That carries no more weight than an American president believing that the Philippines never had a right to become an independent nation. That is, none at all.

    ”For the Russian govt, Ukraine IS part of Russia and always will be.”

    That is incorrect. The 1994 Budapest Memorandum fixed the Ukrainian borders where they are now, with all of Ukraine including Crimea and the Donbas belonging to Ukraine. Everyone agreed to these borders: the United States, the United Kingdom, the United Nations, the Ukraine, and Russia. These borders were further solidified by a formal treaty between Russia and the Ukraine in 1997.

    Russia has absolutely no claim to any territory in the Ukraine.

    ”About 10 years ago or so, my wife’s Russian work friend visited us here at my home. She was not some raving Russian nationalist, but she was adamant that Ukraine was part of Russia…”

    So? Russians feel the same way about Belarus, the Baltics, and Alaska. Does that give them the right to invade America and take it by force?

    Yeah, Russia is still, at its heart, an empire. But that does not require the rest of us to give in to those delusions any more than we do the Palestinian delusions of a local caliphate. That is even more true for their victims.

  39. The best thing that could happen to Ukraine is for the Donbas and Crimea to remain with Russia.
    Many Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine wanted to maintain close ties to the new country of Russia (some thought the Soviet Union would be resurrected).
    In 1992 Crimea declared its independence from Ukraine. The Ukraine parliament declared the declaration invalid and over the period of 6 years the issue was resolved with Crimea being an autonomous republic inside Ukraine.

    The same year, the Donbas region held a referendum with an overwhelming majority voting for federalization of Ukraine and Ukraine joining the Eurasian integration.

    So there is a long history of these to two regions seeking separation from Ukraine. When Ukraine illegally removed Yanukovych from power, voted to remove Russian as a regional official language, and sent private militias to “re-unite the east”, these two regions held referendums to declare independence, seeking the help of Russia against the western Ukrainian armies sent east.

    Why would it be a good thing? It’s becoming obvious here, as well in many parts of the world that cultures in conflict represent a danger to the security and well-being of a country.

    1994 Crimean referendum
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Crimean_referendum

  40. In 1992 Crimea declared its independence from Ukraine.
    ==
    Every region of the country voted for the declaration of sovereignty in September 1991 and the Crimea was accommodated with supplemental authonomy.
    ==
    Again, there is no indication whatsoever that either the Donetsk or the Lukhansk region ever favored merger with Russia. Note that after 2012 the electoral support for Russophile parties imploded.

  41. they are contiguous territories, unlike with France, they fought six wars to seize and hold the territory, the Crimean wars was perhaps an overextension, but they made the Brits bleed at Balaclava, Inkerman, et al, the battle plan might as well have been done by Lord Cardigan and Lord Lucan,

  42. Art Deco, the Donbas and Crimea represented the areas with the highest pro-Russia sentiment. A significant majority of these areas resented the overthrow of Yanukovych, the subsequent vote to change the status of the Russian language and favored joining the Common Union and against joining the EU.

  43. I knew there was a mathematical explanation for that phenomenon. Here is where I usually yawn. *Yawn*

    @Karmi

    Lichtman, who ran for the Democratic nomination for the US Senate in Maryland a few years back, says that most of his “keys to the presidency” haven’t been decided. That will wait for summer, which is … like … two months or so away. The reason why he has Biden still as favorite (apart from his own political leanings) is that he’s decided that there hasn’t been a or any major foreign policy catastrophes in the Biden years. Really? I count three or four. Your mileage may vary.

  44. ”When Ukraine illegally removed Yanukovych from power…”

    That didn’t happen. After Yanukovych’s security goons opened fire on protestors, killing 128 of them, even larger-scale protests broke out over much of Ukraine. Yanukovych promptly fled the country. He now resides in Moscow in a luxury apartment owned by the Russian government, which tells you all you need to know about his allegiances.

    The Ukrainian parliament then impeached him by a vote of 326 to 0. Even his own political party disowned him. He was tried by the Ukrainian supreme court and removed from office. He has no meaningful support anywhere in Ukraine.

    ”A significant majority of these areas resented the overthrow of Yanukovych…”

    He wasn’t overthrown, his own political party disowned him, and after he killed those demonstrators his support plummeted to 4.9%. Hardly a majority, let alone a significant one.

  45. @ Gringo > “They are protesting to be cool, without knowing from nothing about the Palestine/Israel conflict.”

    QED.
    https://notthebee.com/article/watch-interview-with-protester-at-nyu-i-really-dont-know-why-were-protesting

    I’ve only had time to skim the news, so mostly I read Not The Bee, as they cover all the important topics, briefly in some cases, deeply in others, and hilariously in all.

    Here’s a short compendium of recent events in universities that are NOT groveling to the pro-Hamas minions:
    Or, as huxley said: “Time to go Reagan on these people.”

    https://notthebee.com/article/please-enjoy-texas-police-teaching-ut-austin-students-what-happens-when-you-try-to-pull-a-columbia-university-protest-in-the-lone-star-state

    https://notthebee.com/article/this-is-how-florida-handles-protesters-who-break-the-law

    https://notthebee.com/article/watch-these-arizona-state-frat-boys-help-clear-the-schools-quad-of-all-the-flags-and-tents-from-anti-israel-protesters

  46. mkent, you’re simply wrong. He wasn’t impeached. An agreement was worked out with Yanukovych, opposition party leaders, and representatives from France, Germany and Poland for his cabinet members to be replaced by opposition parties and early elections to be held that year, leaders of the protests rejected the deal and issued an ultimatum that he either resign or they would come after him.
    There was no provision in the Ukraine constitution to remove a president other than impeachment, death or resignation.

    The Ukrainian Constitution states that the parliament has the right to initiate a procedure of impeachment “if he commits treason or other crime.” However, it is not clear that the hasty February 22 vote upholds constitutional guidelines, which call for a review of the case by Ukraine’s Constitutional Court and a three-fourths majority vote by the Verkhovna Rada.

    The vote failed to meet the 3/4 majority required by the constitution.

    By the way, a Ukrainian court recently ruled that some of the snipers were firing from a building controlled by the protestors. There were at least 10 of the Berkut police that were also killed.

    Addendum. Yanukovych was elected overwhelmingly by the oblasts in eastern Ukraine. Like him or not, he was the legitimately elected President of Ukraine.

  47. Addendum. Yanukovych was elected overwhelmingly by the oblasts in eastern Ukraine. Like him or not, he was the legitimately elected President of Ukraine.
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    His own political party would not defend him and he was replaced within months by a newly elected president. Your complaint is twee.

  48. Art Deco, you can spin it any way you want, but the removal of Yanukovych was illegal. I can link to a video where a legislator is saying Yanukovych can resign or be strung up. That might be hyperbolic, but it was the same thing the rioters were saying when they rejected the agreement between Yanukovych and opposition Rada leaders.
    Whether or not he deserved to go– the tool was impeachment, which they did not do. The rioters also made a mistake by not letting the agreement play out, which would have neutered Yanukovych’s administration and brought early elections (slightly later but in the same year Poroshenko was elected).
    It was a revolution, and mobs make poor decisions that have consequences.

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