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The Kari Lake election fraud verdict: Part II — 26 Comments

  1. In sports, the officials are presumed to be neutral arbiters, whose only job is to call balls and strikes as it were, and enforce the rules impartially. Without the presumed neutrality of the officials, no one would bother to play the game.

    In politics, one party is supposed to accept that the officials are bought off or maybe even paid employees of the other party, but that’s considered unremarkable. In fact, if you make too big a stink about it you’re labeled a “sore loser” who’s an “election denier.” Vote harder next time, sucker.

    Do I have that right?

  2. Sgt. Joe Friday :

    Sort of like if referees were engaged in betting on the outcomes of the games they were officiating.

  3. Believe it or not, the Nebraska State Bar is dominated by liberals. But there is a significant minority of conservatives and we have had our victories.

    Right now the liberal members of the NSBA are trying to enact a speech code against lawyers. It is so broad that if I made a comment on FB or LinkedIn that the Left deemed to be hate speech, then I could be disciplined.

    Thankfully, the Nebraska Supreme Court decides if the rule is changed and all but one of them were appointed by Republican governors.

  4. As I mentioned in Part 1 comments, VivaFrei commenter, Robert Barnes, said that she did not need to prove intentionality; all she needed to show was that there were enough issues that the outcome could be affected. He specifically said that the bar was low.

    But it appears this judge raised it to an impossibly high standard.

  5. Lee Also:

    Yes, I heard that statement by Barnes prior to the decision. But I don’t recall Barnes citing on what he was basing it. A statute? An Arizona precedent? Something else? Apparently the judge in the Lake case didn’t get the memo from Barnes, because he applied a sky-high standard instead.

  6. So the only conclusion I can make is that all the shenanigans are rewarded, and the more egregious the better. Thus, our votes no longer matter. The next stage of redress of grievances then becomes obvious

  7. Abe Hamadeh, running for AG in AZ, beaten on recount by just enough (hmm) to avoid automatic recount. And recount cut the Dem’s lead from 511 to 280 votes, a serious discrepancy. The whole thing reeks of fraud.

  8. “But it appears this judge raised it to an impossibly high standard.”
    Because elections are too important to question highly suspicious outcomes.
    The teevee called it for the Democrat so …
    Or something.

  9. It’s outrageous that the lawyers are afraid and the judges compliant. That’s not justice, it’s authoritarianism. When are enough citizens going to wake up and see the corruption?

  10. Excellent analysis, probably one of the simplest and best that I have read about this debacle.

    I really don’t know how we are going to solve this issue of corrupt and fraudulent elections before 2024. It now seems to be baked into the cake.

  11. @ JJ > “It’s outrageous that the lawyers are afraid and the judges compliant. That’s not justice, it’s authoritarianism. When are enough citizens going to wake up and see the corruption?”

    Emphasis on “enough” — many did, more do now — but with the media and FBI and all claiming “nothing to see here” — who are you to dare contradict them?

    Seems to me there have been a few other countries where fear and compliance over-ruled justice.
    Things didn’t end well.

  12. Perkins and coie operating behind the dragons tail, yes elias was behind the disqualification of reps they succeeded with cawthorne

  13. Isn’t that amazing, re: the Sgt. Joe exchange up top? A corrupt sports official is caught & goes to jail, but a major election is thrown & it’s just “move along.”

    Orwell taught us that the left are masters of language manipulation & perversion. Not trying to pick on physicsguy, but can we retire the word “shenanigans” when it comes to these serious crimes against the republic? We’re not talking about neighborhood kids playing pranks.

  14. Republicans still think Democrats are good people. They aren’t. They cheat. Always have. Probably always will.

    The long sordid history of Democrat election crimes needs to be shared and taught. Just last night at dinner I was talking with a 61-year-old lawyer and my son. The lawyer was telling my son about his grandfather, my deceased father-in-law. We started sharing stories. I mentioned the Battle of Athens as one of the stories he had discussed with me several times. He was a young boy at the time but remembered the night vividly. His parents played key roles before and after.

    This lawyer grew up in Cleveland, Tenn, went to college and law school in Knoxville, and has practiced law in Cleveland his whole adult life. Athens is 20 miles from Cleveland. The lawyer had never heard of the battle. When I used the term, he showed surprise and asked, “Do you mean ‘battle’ with guns?”

    He’d never heard about the routine stealing of elections by Democrat bosses using the guns of corrupt Dem sheriffs. Didn’t know that GIs had returned from fighting for liberty around the world and decided to fight for it in their hometown. Never heard about Boss Crump in Memphis using his corrupt power to run statewide elections in the state for half a century. Had no idea that LBJ had blatantly and outrageously stolen his senate seat in Texas in 1948. He’d heard of “Walking Tall”, but it was just a movie.

    Blatant, outrageous election fraud has been a staple of the Democrat party for two centuries. If we want to fight back against Big Brother, we have to get the truth out.

  15. Hey, Neo! Did you look up the citation that the Judge references? I don’t see how it supports him throwing out Lake’s suit. There is nothing in the statute that says the contester must show intentionality or actual fraud.

    And the vote margin may have been “largish” but it was enough that it would have made a difference in the outcome.

  16. Lee Also:

    I believe he was saying the statute limited the grounds for contesting. The elements, such as all the types of intentionality, I believe were his own interpretation of case law.

    But it’s not 100 percent clear what he was referring to.

  17. The Republican Party needs to lawyer up to fight election rules before the election. With the incompetent RNC chair Ronna McDaniel they’re always caught behind. Time for a change. Go to https://www.hireharmeet.com/ and find a list of the email addresses of Republican national committee members for each state. Write them polite emails urging them to vote for Harmeet Dhillon.

  18. I’ve noticed the Democrats always back the people with lots of legal fire power. The Pakistani house of reps people had high powered lawyers, for example. Plus the people Durham was looking into.

    Contrast with how General Flynn was basically bankrupted. And how other gop people had to hire their own lawyers, which is not cheap.

    Why does the gop not help with legal costs?

  19. @ RaySoCa > “Why does the gop not help with legal costs?”

    That’s a rhetorical question, right?

  20. Aesopfan – it’s a question that has bothered me for years, and I don’t understand why.

    Flynn was a lifetime Democrat, so the lack of funding for him kinda makes sense.

    There was a female Trump staffer that got caught up in Russiagate, and had to lawyer up. At $500 an hour it gets expensive fast.

    May be it’s the culture that Buckley forced into the Gop after the purging of the Birchers.
    https://accordingtohoyt.com/2022/04/23/principles-are-a-grand-thing-a-guest-post-by-john-ringo/

    Buckley was a CIA alumni. Lewrockwell has some interesting conjectures on nro being a cia influence operation.

  21. Buckley was a CIA alumni. Lewrockwell has some interesting conjectures on nro being a cia influence operation.

    No, crank Rockwell’s ‘conjectures’ are not interesting.

    May be it’s the culture that Buckley forced into the Gop after the purging of the Birchers.

    Buckley wasn’t in a position to ‘force’ a ‘culture’ on the GOP or any other organization bar National Review itself. The Birchers weren’t ‘purged’. It was simply the editorial line of National Review that the Birchers were worthless and should be ignored. You did not have to manipulate the Republican congressional caucus or anyone else into ignoring the Birchers. Their own literature was sufficient to persuade people they were a waste of time. One of the very few prominent Republicans who had an interest in Bircher literature was Raymond Shamie in Massachusetts, and he never ran on a Bircher platform.

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