Jon Stewart tells a small part of the COVID lab origin story
Here’s Jon Stewart appearing on the Colbert Show, talking about the lab origins of COVID. Watching him reminds me that, politics aside, I often found him to be very funny:
But notice what Stewart leaves out. It’s no accident that he only speaks of the part of the COVID origin story that is now deemed acceptable by the MSM and the Democrats. It’s the part that says that science has now determined the disease was very likely to have originated in the Wuhan lab.
What’s left out? Let’s see:
(1) This information was known almost from the start.
(2) People on the right – and that includes Trump – were saying it over a year ago.
(3) Some reputable scientists were even saying it back then, and writing scientific papers showing their reasons, and these papers were being refused and the information suppressed in general.
(4) The Democrats and the MSM and the left (I realize that’s redundant) were actively “debunking” this “misinformation,” labeling anyone who suggested it to be a dangerous scientifically ignorant far-right conspiracy-minded lunatic.
(5) They fostered those thoughts about the “debunking” until very recently, when the word got out that it was okay to come out now with the long-suppressed truth.
I have some questions for Jon Stewart:
(1) What convinced you now that this was true?
(2) What about the fact that this information about the location of the lab was known shortly after the pandemic began in China?
(3) What did you say about Trump and others on the right over a year ago when they were voicing the lab origin possibility/probability?
(4) When do you think this information was learned?
(5) Why was it suppressed earlier?
(6) What do you say now about this sequence of events? Does it trouble you? Make you reconsider anything about your politics?
[ADDENDUM: From the former CDC head.]
“The Democrats and the MSM and the left (I realize that’s redundant) were actively “debunking” this “misinformation,” labeling anyone who suggested it to be a dangerous scientifically ignorant far-right conspiracy-minded lunatic.”
This is why there should be free and open commenting and debate. “Debunked” and “Misinformation” charges are nothing more than methods of committing censorship and for deploying propaganda. Thinking adults – which is most – are fully capable of discerning fact, hypothesis, and falsehoods. We don’t need the press or FB or Twitter to make those determinations. And they shouldn’t be allowed to do so.
I am more than sick of all these liberal – and unfunny – talk show hosts. Jon Stewart was one of the worst offenders as impressionable young people fell for his act and take on politics.
CNN is running a series of specials about late night TV and all the drama following Johnny Carson’s departure. Carson – a graduate of the University of Nebraska who grew up in Norfolk and got his start in Omaha – was really the King. And his politics was mostly unknown to the viewing audience. At one point, the Carson show produced something like 33% of NBC’s profits.
Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel are hard left. I’m glad to see Greg Gutfeld in that time slot. I hope he cleans their clocks.
As an aside, Johnny Carson and later his estate established a big cancer treatment center in Norfolk. And his estate paid for a major renovation of the Fine Arts Building at UNL. He was a true Nebraskan and loyal to the state. I think his Nebraska values and sensibilities were part of the reason he was so popular. Being funny helps too.
You’re more generous than I would be to Stewart, Neo. My impression of him, admittedly based on only glimpses which were enough to put me off, is that his major talent is for smirking.
Though he may (finally) be correct in this case, I believe that Jon Stewart has single handedly done more to increase the level of closed minded ignorance of an entire generation than perhaps any other pop culture personality or media figure of the modern era. Whether he realizes it or not and whether it was intentional or not, he helped create the deeply divided and deeply hostile atmosphere of political discourse that pervades Social Media.
Maybe I’m being unfair here, but I think he bears at least some of the blame for the rise of wokism and cancel culture. These days any sort of reasoned debate seems to have been supressed in favor of supposedly witty zingers, sardonic insults, and yelling or whatever yields the most “clapter” or likes.
Though he may (finally) be correct in this case, I believe that Jon Stewart has single handedly done more to increase the level of closed minded ignorance of an entire generation than perhaps any other pop culture personality or media figure of the modern era.
Nonapod:
Second that.
Though I would give Stewart some minor credit for not being an entirely partisan attack dog like the loathesome Colbert.
In the dictionary next to the word “smary” is a picture of Jon Stewart.
I tend to lump Stewart and Colbert under the title “mocker”, such as I saw among young , arrogant , rebelous teenagers while growing up.
Go to 3:30. Listen not to Stewart, but to that contemptible piece of work Colbert ask if there is evidence; and to then announce that if so, he would like to hear it.
What a good natured naif! So endearing is he …. that adorable little black-eyed demon rag.
18 months into this, the Internet overflowing with Chinese researchers themselves early on pointing to the lab (before they were “disappeared”) and the son-of-a-brick is now ingenuously asking for evidence.
I mean, you know, because, golly gee, if there is any out there he would really, really, like to hear it!
There are three possible reasons for this clown’s behavior: 1, these leftist miscreants really are as stupid as they appear to be, or 2, as closed minded and “official news source” dependent as they appear to be, or 3 as much the conscienceless, dishonest , posturing, self-seeking and immoral herd animals as they appear to be.
Or maybe all th…
Ahem. To quote Monty Python, make that: “There four possible reasons …. “
One Jon Stewart skit I recall involved Froma Harrop, a liberal columnist, who in the same week of 2012 called Tea Partiers terrorists akin to Al-Qaeda, while leading a group of editorial writers in a public project titled “Restoring Civility.”
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2011/08/05/hypocrisy-irony-and-the-new-civility-n179913
In a rare instance of bipartisan mockery, Stewart invited Harrop to his show to interview her about civility. However, on the show Stewart intercut Harrop’s civility quotes with her Tea Party quotes.
The skit showed Stewart rushing back and forth between different rooms contrasting Civility Harrop with Tea Party Terrorist Harrop — much to Harrop’s detriment.
https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2012/01/13/must-watch-daily-show-destroys-liberal-columnist-over-civility-hypocrisy-n183161
Of course, that Stewart video is no longer available on the web. Even a text description is hard to find if one doesn’t know of its existence.
Though I would give Stewart some minor credit for not being an entirely partisan attack dog like the loathesome Colbert.
Yeah, to be fair I think that Stewart can be and has been funny, and has even managed to make some decent arguments on occasion. Somewhat like Bill Mahr at times, he seems to avoid being totally partisan all the time.
As for Colbert, I agree he’s blindly partisan and nowhere near as funny or talented as Stewart (or even fellow Daily Show alum John Oliver for that matter). He seems to be a very angry man with few redeeming qualities. He’s just a rich, out-of-touch limousine liberal with a chip on his shoulder for some reason.
Ah, the “clown nose on clown nose off guy”.
The bailey: “aren’t Republicans awful because of things I just made up out of whole cloth”
The motte: “It’s comedy it doesn’t need footnotes, jokes don’t have to be factual”
It is amazing the look that appears on the face of a smug smart-ass when he realizes that he is facing an almost instantaneously near future of seriously fractured facial bones. Most of us have seen it. Maybe in High School. Semi-gay smart ass delivers insult. Semi-gay smart as receives reply. Whap, crack, blood spurts from the nose and down the shirt. He crumples to the ground, dazed and unbelieving. All smugness vanishes instantly. Some of the females in the vicinity seem upset for some reason.
I am convinced that most of these … whatever they are … simply assume that people exist as an appreciative audience – or target – for their jibes, and as receptacles for their ejected bile; and that they are themselves imbued with some mysterious cosmic quality which immunizes them from a dismissive backhand across the bridge of the nose. They don’t realize that the inhibitions of those whom they insult are all that stands between them and reconstructive surgery, if not the great beyond. (Not that there is a “great beyond” for the soulless)
Anyway, I don’t know. Perhaps it is in fact wrong to level physical violence against the aggressively mocking, the presumptuous, and the smug boundary violators; but I could not tell you why.
Maybe Stewart will start joking about the January 6 “INSURRECTION” next….
https://twitter.com/AmandaMilius/status/1404865317285814279
https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1404830476628594700
There’s a ton of material….
@Jon baker,
They never mock those that mocking might have an effect on, hard leftists, Islamists, to name the main ones. That is because they know the mockery of some will have bad results for them personally. They do know about the “punch to the nose” and avoid making fun that will get them that.
Or maybe some jokes about this?
https://twitter.com/MikeBelcher14/status/1404792409427431427
Labeling something as debunked or as misinformation is just a way to shut us up. Has a Democratic idea ever been labeled as “debunked ” ?
It seems to be reserved exclusively for Republicans/Conservatives.
Peter Vanicek (5:57 pm) said:
“Labeling something as debunked or as misinformation is just a way to shut us up. Has a Democratic idea ever been labeled as ‘debunked’?
“Debunked”.
Reminds me of the Clinton White House, with George Stephanopoulos as communications director and also de facto press secretary. When confronted with something that made Clinton look bad, they would deny, deny, deny, and after a while it would go away. And then, when/if the topic ever was raised again, their counter point was “ohh, that’s old news,” in the sense of “everyone knows *that*, what’s the point of mentioning it?”
“Debunked”. Phooey.
No, Peter Vanicek, a Democrat idea is *never* labeled as “debunked”. (I know your question was 100 percent rhetorical. See ya.)
Stewart, Colbert, and Oliver’s entire schtick rests upon two elements. Intellectual snobbery; how smart are we and how stupid are they… and virtue signaling; viewer’s agreement confers upon them membership in their virtuous club/tribe.
Nonapod,
I will jump in with huxley and second (or third) your comments about Jon Stewart. Only Colbert is more loathsome. And there is definitely a very angry undercurrent to everything Colbert says and does. Such a mean-spirited petty little man. It oozes right out of him.
He also left out that the virus not only likely emanated from the Wuhan lab, it was likely designed or manufactured in that lab. Fauci is still denying this.
“And there is definitely a very angry undercurrent to everything Colbert says and does.”
Colbert was a middling failure as David Letterman’s replacement. Then he went full-on #OrangeManBad and became the #1 show in late night. Knowing your success is all about the grossest sort of pandering has got to be a living hell to a wannabe intellectual like Colbert.
Mike
The Chinese hatred of the non-Han rest of the world was illustrated by their allowing international travel to continue while closing down internal travel to limit the spread of the “Chinese Cof”.
As for the rest, it made sense for the West including France and the U.S. (involving The Faucci) to help set up viral research institutes in the source of new and horrible diseases for a millenium or more. But, in truth, did anyone expect the corrupt “Good-Ol’-Boys” of the CCP to be able to run a highly complex facility any better than than the Dems of Flint (MI) could supply their charges lead-free water, or the Democratic keepers of the East Saint Louis (IL) funny farm to provide a functioning sewer system? Xi’s minions probably let the “Big Ugly” loose and he ran with the opportunity to spread it to the rest of the world. How could he loose? He “owned” the WHO and the CDC (Center for Democratic Conquest), after two terms of the the Chicago Communist, couldn’t even package the test kits that they had on hand. I doubt that there was some “big plan” but Xi was agile. He didn’t get control of the savages of the CCP by being a back row hack. Add the festering TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) among the GOP traitors and sell-outs, and you have the story.
Most of the stories on the Right are lauding Stewart, or at least temporarily accepting him as a partial ally, while deriding Colbert’s discomfort.
Remember, they are both actors.
Stewart would not be doing this without permission, or orders, from Democrat Central. Colbert is the “straight guy” playing to him.
They are giving their audiences permission to dump the former storyline (“it’s not China’s fault”) and take on the new one, so that they don’t have to push back or ignore the mounting evidence in conversations with whatever conservatives they still talk to.
Jon said they could.
CNN is running a series of specials about late night TV and all the drama following Johnny Carson’s departure. Carson – a graduate of the University of Nebraska who grew up in Norfolk and got his start in Omaha – was really the King.
Cornhead:
I ran into this YouTube of Tommy Smothers imitating Carson on “The Tonight Show.” Fun stuff. Carson took it like a pro. For the days when talk shows were funny…
–“Tommy Smothers dead-on imitation of Johnny Carson – Feb 20, 1992”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oghxf-HS6go
Y’all might be interested in this:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-breaking-of-stephen-colbert/
They are both second-rate comedians and entertainers whose chief success has been in convincing their audience that they’re not really entertainers but something else, more hip and knowledgeable. I think I might have respected Stewart as a true comedic societal commentator if he had displayed the courage to voice this a year ago, or even six months ago. Now he’s just after numbers on the applause meter. But he shouldn’t be getting any credits for bravery for saying something that’s supposedly verboten by the Politburo. Dancing across that line routinely is just doing what’s required to make him the cutting, controversial, bad-boy guest/host.
Aesopfan gets it right.
Modified limited hangout.
Entirely scripted and coordinated.
…or maybe tell a few gags about this:
https://tinyurl.com/6tbafm7t
The narrative is shifting because public response is shifting from “we will do what seems reasonable to stop the spread” to “don’t tread on me MF’rs.” (said in the style of Samuel Jackson)
Expect the narrative to shift to:
Well, it was created in a lab, and accidentally leaked, it may be a far more serious virus then we initially thought, so we need to continue the draconian measures to ensure public safety and wellbeing.
The narrative is shifting…
zenman:
I’ve run into a story on a Chinese defector spilling the beans…
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RedState has now learned some details of the information provided by the defector, including that he provided data proving that SARS-CoV-2 was manmade and leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, in addition to evidence confirming that the People’s Liberation Army managed the Wuhan program (and others), as Chinese virologist Yan Li-Meng told the FBI last year.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2021/06/12/chinese-defector-n1454189
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Perhaps the media is trying to get ahead of this story.
I’m a conservative that despises the late night woke commie comedy tyrants. You must laugh at this and not laugh at that according to the commissars current acceptable faux comedy. BUT Jon Stewart has never been one of those and he is the rare exception liberal that is actually FUNNY and he can mock both sides. He was actually funny when he mocked conservatives which is a rarity. I put him in the class of Steve Crowder and his crew and Klavan. And he GLORIUOUSLY mocked the accepted Leftist talk show memes that they’ve been enforcing on Wuhan flu this entire year and a half. And he did it on their own stage. Colbert was cringing and I loved it. Jon obliterated the Fauciist crap they’ve been swallowing in 5 hysterical minutes.
Politically congruent Handmade Tales. They thought they could abort the baby (e.g. granny – over 500,000) at the Twilight fringe (e.g. out of sight, out of mind), cannibalize her profitable parts, sequester her carbon pollutants, and have her, too. It seems that they were wrong.
Aggie, above, has a good point. Stewart may seem to be ahead of the curve and courageous, but that is only by his now announcing what everyone already knows, who’s not living in La La land literally, or figuratively.
Sundance gives him no credit
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/06/15/its-called-cultural-marxism-for-a-reason/
HumphreyP:
I give Stewart no credit either, unless he wants to start answering my questions. He’s trying to do damage control, basically, and is performing a little dance with Colbert playing the good cop to Stewart’s bad cop (from a leftist point of view, that is).
A Rumble clip posted today on Bannons War Room illustrates his style of “reporting”. It seems it is being filtered here but the title includes “soy boy”. In the early 2000s, I seem to recall a poll showing that Jon Stewart’s Daily Show was the only source of news for most college students.
I agree with Nonapod and others here, including you Neo. 🙂
We could all be internet influencers, like this one. (via Revolver News link)
https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1404966492836352001
“They seriously pulled their favorite clown out of retirement to manage the narrative switch.”
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(1) What convinced you now that this was true?
(2) What about the fact that this information about the location of the lab was known shortly after the pandemic began in China?
(3) What did you say about Trump and others on the right over a year ago when they were voicing the lab origin possibility/probability?
(4) When do you think this information was learned?
(5) Why was it suppressed earlier?
(6) What do you say now about this sequence of events? Does it trouble you? Make you reconsider anything about your politics?
My predictions:
1 – I was told it was true by The People Who Tell Me What To Think
2 – What difference does that make?
3 – What difference does that make?
4 – What difference does that make?
5 – What difference does that make?
6 – Huh?
:-S
}}} is that his major talent is for smirking
Well, given that this is the only actual response The Left has to facts not in agreement with their worldview (aka Officially Accepted Liberal Dogma®).
It’s an interim response until the Liberal Midnight Reset Button® gets a chance to do its job.
A more complete discussion of these concepts here (Yeah, I’ve done it on Neo, but, if you don’t know him, I figure y’all might find Larry amusing, too. He’s a pitbull.):
https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11/09/election-2020-the-more-fuckery-update/#comment-99392
}}} In the dictionary next to the word “smary” is a picture of Jon Stewart.
I think you’re missing an “M” there…. “smarmy”?
Actually, there’s a picture of Timothy Dalton, which is why he sucked as Bond despite being an excellent actor.
But yeah, Stewie is the captain of low-quality snark.
Update – somebody didn’t get the memo.
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/what-republican-voters-really-think-about-big-tech-companies/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=blog-post&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=top-bar-latest&utm_term=second
“an attack on expertise.”
Oh! Say it ain’t so! The Humanity!