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  1. Of course the photos of 0’s inauguration featuring the Betsy Ross flag must prove that 0 was a racist white supremacist. His record of achievement for blacks in the US only augment the proof.

    See I can play ‘spot the racist’ too.

    How does a marginally talented ‘never was’ still get this much media oxygen?

  2. I believe Nike has chosen poorly. Only time will tell, but I think we’ll know one way or the other.

  3. And if I was sitting on some venture capital, I’d be printing a whole bunch of merchandise with that flag all over it…selling like hotcakes I tells ya!

    I’d also be dumping my Nike stock if I had any that I knew of.

  4. So, does that mean that it isn’t the shareholders, it isn’t Nike management who’s in charge of the corporation, it’s really Colin Kaepernick who’s in charge of Nike?

    He’s the guy behind the curtain, now stepping “out of the shadows” to claim his power, and the accolades he deserves?

  5. I had been running in Nike shoes since the late 1980s. No more Nike anything. Get Woke. Go Broke. Colin’s a Joke.

  6. Mike Doran tweets: https://mobile.twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1147226301033603072

    ** Ted Cruz respectfully urged Colin Kaepernick, and by extension the rest of us, to read Frederick Douglass’s speech in its entirety – his “mighty and historic speech.” Look how a NYT reporter and member of its editorial board responds to Cruz. **

    Doran then attaches a paste of the tweet from Mara Gay aimed at Sen. Cruz: ** Frederick Douglass is an American hero, and his name has no business in your mouth. **

    What the actual fuck? This is where we are?

  7. Nike, Gillette, and now, to follow, an ignorant out-of-context quotation from Frederick Douglass designed to incite racial animosity. (I’m giving Kaepernick the benefit of the doubt here; I assume he just pulled that quote from somewhere and has never read the whole speech.)

  8. “What is a somewhat recent development is the willing acquiescence and cooperation of mainstream (or formerly mainstream) corporate entities such as Nike. I think, actually, it’s a business decision by Nike. They have decided they’ll gain more business by going along with Kaepernik than they would gain by opposing him, and so they are all in.”

    Quite true.

    There are ideological reasons, also. See Kevin Williamson’s essay from 2017, “Why Corporate Leaders Became Progressive Activists”, at: https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/03/corporate-leaders-progressive-activists/

  9. No doubt if Frederick Douglass was alive today he’d be running around in Nike Betsy Ross sneakers.

  10. John G. – I’ve already seen an ad for some tshirts with the flags – limited edition w/r/t time to order and shipping starts after that date. Smart move – they can start printing and update the final count at the end. The group also has a shirt that is “Just Stand” tag line. The company is Nine Line Apparel and is veteran run. None Line refers to a med vac request.

    I’ve saved the F. Douglass speech to a pdf file – it would have printed out at 17 pages! Evening reading…

  11. Truly effete and decadent as many of us are, we are descending into madness.

    Here for your edification is piece of evidence #1, that PETA has sent a letter of protest to an Idaho Mayor, demanding that the offensive name of a road be changed.

    The name of the road? “Chicken Dinner Road.”

    To quote from the letter from PETA, “Just like dogs, cats, and human beings, chickens feel pain and fear and value their own lives,” PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman said in the letter.

    She wants the mayor to change the name of the road to “one that celebrates chickens as individuals, not as beings to kill, chop up, and label as ‘dinner.’”

    Now we know, Chickens “value their own lives,” and we are to “celebrate chickens as individuals.”

    Meanwhile, in other news, since the 1973 Roe vs. Wade decision, an estimated 60 million babies have been aborted in this country.

    Apparently those babies, although capable of feeling pain and reacting to stimuli at a few weeks after conception, were not developed enough yet so that their lives could and should be “valued” and, so, they were not to be allowed to be born in order that–just as chickens do, they, too, could “celebrate themselves as individuals.”

    See https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/peta-finds-name-of-rural-road-in-idaho-distasteful-asks-for-change/ar-AADTTen?ocid=spartanntp

  12. sdferr:

    Yes, this is where we are.

    And that’s one of the only good things about Twitter: it reveals the once-secret thoughts of those in the MSM who used to profess to be neutral and objective and non-partisan.

    It makes it easier to see what’s going on with them.

  13. Kaepernick doesn’t look very African American to me except for a bit darker skin. He was also adopted by whites. Is he suffering from white guilt?

  14. Is he suffering from white guilt?

    No, he’s a self-aggrandizing prick, and his mother and father say they’re ‘supportive’. He didn’t grow up in Detroit. He grew up around Appleton, Wisconsin and Modesto, California.

  15. expat…no he’s suffering from a radical black muslim BLM girlfriend.

    But that has never stopped him from cashing his checks. He likes that two-way street of “black/white privilege.” (He learned it from the former Oval Office occupant)

  16. They have decided they’ll gain more business by going along with Kaepernik than they would gain by opposing him, and so they are all in.”

    No, I think they decided that pandering to the left would keep those same lefties from complaining about their Asian sweat shops.

  17. Whatever Nike’s rationale, they are a perfect example of Lenin’s assertion; “the capitalists will sell us the rope with which we’ll hang them…”

  18. Snow on Pine:

    I have some ideas.

    How about “Chicken Crossroads.” As in “why did the chicken cross the road?”

    Or perhaps “Chicken Little Road.” Chicken Little was a real individual.

    But if you want rugged individualism, this one would be even better: “Little Red Hen Road.”

  19. The genesis of Williamson’s post is a different flag, but his conclusions are relevant to the Kaepernick Krisis.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/06/one-flag-is-enough/

    n 2019, the urgent question is whether U.S. embassies around the world will run the rainbow flag up the pole and see who salutes it.

    Mike Pence said no. Not that anybody asked him, really. The matter was resolved within the State Department, through the usual processes. A few ambassadors asked for permission to fly the pride flag, and State declined to grant that permission.
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    One Flag Is Enough
    By KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON
    June 11, 2019 3:49 PM

    Vice President Mike Pence (Shizuo Kambayashi/Reuters)
    Where sovereign U.S. diplomatic outposts are concerned, the only flag that should be flown is the one with the 50 stars and 13 stripes.
    Some time around the sixth season of Will & Grace, a funny thing happened: The love that dare not speak its name became the love that could not shut up for a second and maybe talk about something else for a while.

    Mike Pence has been cast as the purse-lipped Roger Chillingsworth of the Trump administration — the narrative of every Republican administration must include at least one grim puritan (John Ashcroft, Dan Quayle, Gary Bauer) and even the New York Times cannot transmute Donald J. Trump into one of those. And so the vice president has been made into the personification of one of the silliest purported scandals of the Trump administration.

    This is Pride Month, during which organized homosexuality does its very best to remind the nation that some people have nonstandard sexual proclivities, that for some reason some people choose to organize both their personal identities and their communities around this fact, and to demand . . . well, that turns out to be a moving target, as surely is understood by anybody who remembers how fast we went from “Nobody is talking about gay marriage, you hysterical ninnies!” to “Gay marriage is a constitutionally mandatory thing, as James Madison obviously intended!” In the pre-Lawrence era, the urgent question was whether states could (and would) enforce the sodomy laws that made a crime of certain consensual sexual acts.

    In 2019, the urgent question is whether U.S. embassies around the world will run the rainbow flag up the pole and see who salutes it.

    Mike Pence said no. Not that anybody asked him, really. The matter was resolved within the State Department, through the usual processes. A few ambassadors asked for permission to fly the pride flag, and State declined to grant that permission. Others simply flew the flag on their own authority, acting in accord with the proverbial wisdom that it is easier to beg forgiveness than secure permission. But NBC News asked the vice president about the situation, and he affirmed that he believed the decision to have been correct. His argument contained no reference to scripture or moral theology, but rather relied on the straightforward belief that where sovereign U.S. diplomatic outposts are concerned, the only flag that should be flown is the one with the 50 stars and 13 stripes.

    The Trump administration itself observes Pride Month, and Pence insisted that “we’re proud to be able to serve every American.” But: “The State Department indicated that on the flagpole of our American embassies that one flag should fly, and that’s the American flag, and I support that.” Not exactly Savonarola, there.

    The gay-rights movement conceives of itself as a civil-rights movement patterned on the one that grew to prominence in the United States in the postwar era. It is not entirely wrong to do so. But there were, in effect, two civil-rights movements: The one led by the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. demanded the full integration of African Americans as Americans and an end to the social, economic, and political separation that had marked American society and marks it still; the other one, led by Malcolm X, conceived of African Americans as a separate people with separate aspirations, a loosely nationalistic movement that not only accepted separation but demanded more of it. The more fruitful of those movements recognized one flag and demanded that the republic for which it stands live up to its best principles. The less productive one flew many other flags.

    Perhaps pride in one flag is enough, for all of our failures, as we move toward a still more perfect union.

  20. Mike Pence said no. Not that anybody asked him, really.

    Nobody asked you either Mr. Williamson, but we still have to hear from you. Mr. Pence is a federal official of some prominence and the former Governor of Indiana. You, on the other hand are paid an obscene salary by a philanthropic concern to write obnoxious topical commentary. (IRS 990 forms reveal that in some years Mr. Lowry was misappropriating donor dollars to such a degree that he himself and Mr. Williamson were receiving salaries in excess of $200,000 a year. If you fancy market rates are to pay these two what the president of a small corporation or what a medical specialist earns, I’m vending bridges and I want you as a customer).

  21. I don’t buy the “business decision” spin. They invested in this shoe line — design, marketing, production — only to capitulate to a reactionary clown who has no fiduciary duty to the stockholders and should not, in fact, make business decisions like this.

    It’s like the SJW mob is running the show now.

  22. It’s like the SJW mob is running the show now.

    The film critic Michael Medved has been saying for 20-odd years now that considerations which do not show up in balance sheets and income statements – like peer respect – are big motivators in media. It looks like that mentality has sped to other industries that produce products which have an aesthetic dimension and a quality that used to be called ‘snob appeal’. And that the executives in said industries have a mentality that used to be limited to faculty and the media. Thanks millennials.

  23. Calling it a “business decision” does not imply it’s smart — but that’s the impression they want to leave with the public.

    It’s also a “business decision” when globalist corporate leadership sees no downside to telling Americans “we don’t care about things you care about”.

  24. antifa-shatters-mirror-in-attempt-to-punch-nazi

    “Betsy Ross shirts and sneakers; you might trigger a Klantifa”

    Ah, the socialist, communist, fascist, KKK axis. #HateLovesAbortion

    That, and bright red colored pro-American hats are known to trigger bullies.

  25. Imagine if Americans had kneeled. Kneeled to involuntary exploitation. Kneeled to redistributive change. Kneeled to diversity. Kneeled to political congruence. Just imagine.

  26. Liz on July 5, 2019 at 5:07 pm said:
    John G. – I’ve already seen an ad for some tshirts with the flags – limited edition w/r/t time to order and shipping starts after that date. Smart move – they can start printing and update the final count at the end. The group also has a shirt that is “Just Stand” tag line. The company is Nine Line Apparel and is veteran run.
    * * *
    This one:
    https://www.winknews.com/2019/07/03/clothing-company-releases-betsy-ross-flag-t-shirt-amid-nike-controversy/

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