Prosecutor malfeasance rewarded: Weissmann and company
I don’t usually watch cable news on TV, but for some reason last night I happened across Mark Levin’s show on Fox, and saw an interview with Sidney Powell, an attorney who wrote Licensed to Lie: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice.
Please note her book’s date of publication: May 1, 2014. Therefore, it had to have been written some time before that—and certainly long before the FBI and the DOJ were engaged in investigating Donald Trump and his aides and acquaintances.
Powell herself immediately got my attention in a way that few speakers do. She was calm and logical, and presented a case so distressing—in particular about Andrew Weissmann, Mueller’s right-hand man, but hardly limited to him—that I was riveted for the entire interview, which I now present here. It may make your blood run cold, if you hadn’t reached that state already:
Powell’s been talking about this for quite some time, too. But don’t sit on a hot stove till the major organs of the MSM spotlight what she’s been saying. An excerpt from that article I just linked, from October of 2017, goes like this [the site interviewing Powell spells Weissmann’s name wrong multiple times, which I’ve corrected]:
“I was holding out hope on Mueller, but as soon as he picked Weissmann, I knew what direction Mueller was going.”
Weissmann was the federal prosecutor in charge of the Enron investigation until complaints about his practices led to his resignation from the case…
Typical of Weissman’s tactics was his pre-dawn July 26 SWAT raid on the home of Paul Manafort, the former chairman of the Trump campaign.
“Mueller knows what Weissmann is about and how he likes to work,” she said.
“I no longer trust Mueller,” she said. “Look at Weissmann’s cases, why choose him to do anything? He should have been disbarred.”
Roger Stone’s pre-dawn arrest is also how Weissmann “likes to work.”
Powell is hardly alone in pointing this out; here’s another person similarly concerned [emphasis mine] [there were more misspellings of Weissmann’s name in this excerpt, too, which I’ve corrected]:
“The integrity of the “investigation” and of the “investigators” must be a paramount priority in our criminal justice system at all times,” said David Schoen, a civil rights and defense attorney, who has been outspoken on the special counsel investigation. “Certainly this fundamental guiding principle must be followed when it comes to an investigation of the duly elected President of the United States. The outcome potentially affects every one of us in very real terms…There were many alternatives to Mr. Mueller and his team and all of their very troubling baggage.”
“(Mueller and Weissmann) were both connected to two of the biggest scandals in FBI history,” Schoen added…
Weissmann, described by the New York Times as Mueller’s ‘pit bull’ was Mueller’s legal advisor for national security in 2005 and later was selected by Mueller to be his General Counsel at the FBI….Weissmann, was a specialist in tracking financing and corruption, was at the time head of the Department of Justice’s criminal fraud section. Mueller saw nobody better than Weissmann to help navigate the murky waters of the investigation and Weissmann was lauded by some and criticized by others, for doing whatever it took to win a case, as reported.
Mueller was also aware of critical issues with Weissmann’s handling of the Enron and Arthur Anderson cases, as well as his involvement in the Eastern District of New York’s case against the Colombo crime family.
Weissmann’s involvement in the Colombo case in the 1990s was the first of many cases that would draw criticism from his peers but this case, in particular, would be one of the FBI’s biggest blunders. As I outlined last month, Judge Charles P. Sifton reprimanded Weissmann for withholding evidence from the defense, as previously reported. Weissmann allowed a corrupt FBI agent to testify against the defendants in the case despite having knowledge that the agent was under investigation. The agent had a nefarious relationship with a reputed underboss of the Colombo crime family, who was accused later of numerous murders, court records reveal…
There would be no one better than Weissmann to do what needs to be done, if your goal is to get Trump and/or those under him, the better to squeeze them. I will close with a movie clip you’ve probably seen before. But it continues to be relevant:
The thing is, plenty of people cut down the law and still do stand upright in the winds that blow. Weissmann certainly has, so far.
And I don’t see anything in his way right now, with the sole exception (perhaps, if we’re very very lucky) of William Barr.
When does Weissmann run for Governor of New York ? That’s usually what these guys are after,.
When does Weissmann run for Governor of New York ? That’s usually what these guys are after.
This is what Conrad Black write his book about.
I watched the Levin interview last night too and was upset that Weissmann is able to get away with this stuff. Ms. Powell caught my attention as well and projected a lot of cold fury that was able to be felt by the viewer. I hope that Roger Stone will be able to fight back and that Barr will step up and stop this nonsense.
Neo,
In one of your previous posts you wrote that such people need to learn . . . . My response was no, they need to be taught a lesson.
Weissmann is a case in point, but not just him, Hillary, the journalists who would punch the Covington kids in the face or run them through a woodchipper (apologies notwithstanding). This list goes on both ad infinitum and ad nauseam.
To passively allow them to get away with these tactics without repercussion is to encourage them to continue. Even David Gregory illegally holding (therefore, illegally possessing) a 30 round AR-15 magazine on the air, regardless of how minor the infraction might be, encourages such acts to continue and cements the perception that laws are for the little people because time and time again, the elites are proven exempt. And the elites wonder why the “deplorables” hate them.
I watched the beginning of that interview and Levin gives Sidney Powell’s background at the Department of Justice before starting in on a discussion of Arthur Andersen and Enron and Weissmann’s role in that case. But no mention of the fact that Powell was on the Arthur Andersen appellate team and took the lead role in the post-trial defense of an Enron executive; see “Too Much Skin in the Game? A Review of Sidney Powell’s Licensed To Lie”.
Ann:
Well, you should have watched more than the beginning. She goes into an extensive discussion of her role in the defense of the Enron executive.
If she wasn’t angry at the prosecutorial offenses that occurred in the trials in which she was engaged, she wouldn’t have written the book. So, she’s angry. So what? She should be. Her facts should stand and fall on their own merits.
ArmyMom—This isn’t just “nonsense,” this is a deadly serious attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected President and the Government of the United States, an attempt at a coup d’etat carried out by the Left, by many high ranking government officials spread across a number of Cabinet Agencies, and Departments, plus some members of Congress, some Judges in our Courts, and the MSM, a coup attempt—from their silence and lack of counteraction—likely backed by a large majority of the rank and file Federal bureaucracy.
And, if it succeeds, the United States will no longer be a Republic but rather, a banana republic, a form of dictatorship run by the Left and the Deep State, in which the views, the wishes, and well-being of citizens will matter not a whit.
To quote David Burke at Iowakawkblog, what will have taken place is this action:
“Identify a respected institution.
2. kill it.
3. gut it.
4. wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect.”
And that “respected institution” is the Government and Presidency of the United States.
T:
I didn’t understand your distinction then and I don’t get it now.
How does one learn? Well, it could be through some spontaneous desire to become better informed, and then pursuing more learning about something. But that’s obviously not what I meant. What I meant is learning by “being taught a lesson.”
Neo — Good to know that she did talk about her connection with Arthur Andersen and Enron.
“This isn’t just “nonsense,” this is a deadly serious attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected President and the Government of the United States, . . .” [Snow on Pine @ 3:08 pm]
I agree, and the more I consider it with all of the various alphabet soup factions in “cahoots” (DOJ, FBI, MSM, etc.) I can’t help but see this as a prime example of referent power; you know, “Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?” The narrative has been cast: Trump must be removed. Perhaps it’s a conspiracy, but my bet is more likely mostly the various governmental agencies pile on board, mostly independently, to contribute to that common goal.
In 2013 Salena Zito wrote a meaningful column about the entire
prospect of referent power under Obama:
And while Trump may inf act be wielding such power especially in foreign affairs, domestically I suggest that such referent power is wielded by the cultural narrative opposing the president.
This makes Glenn Reynolds repeated suggestion that conservative wealth should target popular forms of communication even more prescient. Own magazines such as Vogue, internet sites such as Buzzfeed or Huffington Post and staff them with conservative writers to begin nudging culture and its own referent power in another direction.
Link to Salena Zito
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/05/19/obamas_incredible_referent_power_118468.html
Also, Snow on Pine, a modest correction; Iowahawk is David Burge, not Burke. Perhaps this was a typo or autocorrect.
Think also of the malfeasance in the prosecutions of Ted Stevens and in the post-Katrina New Orleans cases. DoJ and FBI have been thinking of themselves as above the citizenry for quite a while. Which is frightening.
Kate:
I believe that Powell’s book also discusses the Stevens prosecutorial misconduct.
T,
Very good piece on “referent power” and the Sith. Thanks for the link.
The more the legal system seems a complicated game wherein just about anyone can be ruined but the well-connected skate every time, the more you’ll see non-compliance and vigilatism. Vigilantes cannot operate penal systems. The punishments they impose are corporal and capital. Andrew Weismann might give some thought to the possibility that one day he’s covered in tar and feathers and paraded through the streets of Akron.
Is this really a Weissmann thing? I checked with the folks at Lawfare and according to them:
Chuck Rosenberg notes that Stone made violent threats and points out that:
Neo,
Let’s see if I can clarify my distinction fro you.
IMO The power/ability to learn resides with the learner, the power to teach resides with the teacher. Now, certainly the best teachers inspire learning, but with regard to our discussion I suspect that very few on the left will experience a epiphany such as yours because most people are not polymaths; they are not self-taught—in some cases one might argue not even self-aware.
“Will the left ever learn?” IMO, no, because there is no incentive or reason for them to change or be any different than they are. Conversely for them to be taught: That they will not get what they want; to have those on the right stop abandoning the fight; to call out their mis-behavior (as Lindsay Graham has recently started to do); to insure that there are consequences for leftist lawbreaking (Hillary prosecuted; for the right to refuse to succumb to a cultural tantrum, etc.
Now they may not learn, or ever accept that they are wrong, but they may be taught that they aren’t going to get what they want.
Thanks fro holding my feet to the fire.You’re welcome to respond (of course). Let’s see If we can clarify this even more.
Julie near Chicago,
Glad you enjoyed it. Keep warm!
Weissmann isn’t the only one on Mueller’s staff who stinks to high heaven. There’s Mueller himself, who was a US Attorney and involved in the Whitey Bulger scandal. (Bulger after being on the lam for years, was eventually captured, tried, and convicted of the murder of 12 people. The State Police think he actually murdered about 100 people) For those of you who aren’t aware of it, the FBI in the 1960’s was trying to take down the Italian Mafia in Boston and hired the Irish mob, Whitey Bulger and friends, as informants. The informants used their connections at the FBI to murder two of their rivals. The FBI proceeded to falsely accuse four innocent men of the murders and helped get them convicted and sent to prison for forty years. Each year after the convictions the US Attorney for MA had to sign a letter to justify keeping them in prison. Eventually the convictions were thrown out in their entirety and the four men or their families were awarded a total of $100 million in damages.
The links below give more detail on what happened, but Mueller played his part in the miscarriage of justice as US Attorney. When Mueller was appointed Special Prosecutor, Howie Carr, a local talk show host, went looking for the justification letter signed by Mueller. Strangely, he could find the letters signed by other US Attorneys, but not Mueller’s. It was eventually found but not among the court documents where it should have been. Draw your own conclusions.
Mueller, Weissmann, and I’ll bet the rest are just thugs with law licenses who should have been disbarred and given the boot long ago, but the bureaucracy protects its own.
What’s next, the FBI commits a political murder and frames someone important for it?
https://howiecarrshow.com/2018/04/13/robert-mueller-mum-on-fbi-scandal-in-boston/
https://dailycaller.com/2018/06/05/mueller-fbi-wrongful-conviction-case/
As an addendum to what I wrote read the following very clear discussion of Mueller’s part in the Whitey Bulger scandal. It’s from the Boston Globe of all places, one of the Democratic Party’s house organs.
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Albano was appalled that, later that same year, Mueller was appointed FBI director, because it was Mueller, first as an assistant US attorney then as the acting US attorney in Boston, who wrote letters to the parole and pardons board throughout the 1980s opposing clemency for the four men framed by FBI lies.
Of course, Mueller was also in that position while Whitey Bulger was helping the FBI cart off his criminal competitors even as he buried bodies in shallow graves along the Neponset.
“Before he gets that extension,’’ Mike Albano said, “somebody in the Senate or House needs to ask him why the US Attorney’s office he led let the FBI protect Whitey Bulger.’’
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/1970/01/19/one-lingering-question-for-fbi-director-robert-mueller/613uW0MR7czurRn7M4BG2J/story.html
T–Perhaps what is at least partially at work here is what John A. Stormer, author of “None Dare Call It Treason,” termed “a conspiracy of shared values.”
People who hold the same beliefs, because they were taught in the same group of schools, they read the same books, and who each act independently to advance an ideology they share in common.
Ruby Ridge is also a case study in the ruthless nature of government agents/agencies that are allowed to murder a mother holding a baby with no consequences for their actions. This campaign against djt reveals we live in a lawless society, that never ends well.
…the treatment of Stone is quite normal: arrests are often made by the FBI, and warrants are generally executed, in early-morning hours as a matter of standard operating procedures.
Manju is tuned in to the ABC This Week program where George Clintonopolis asserted that SWAT teams to arrest white collar criminals is standard.
I ordered the book by Powell. This is much like what Conrad Black has written about US prosecutors. I read his book, too. Patrick FitzGerald, who railroaded Black (And Scooter Libby) is a buddy of Mueller’s.
Snow on Pine,
That is pretty much what (I think) I described above. Didn’t know it already had a name, and all the way back in 1964. Thanks.
T:
Let me refresh your memory about what I actually said, and the post in which I said it. The post was about defamation lawsuits in the Covington affair, and I was in favor of such lawsuits. It wasn’t about some sort of change of heart in general on the left.
What’s more, this was the sentence in which I mentioned the type of “learning” I was talking about:
I really don’t think it’s unclear. I was speaking of lawsuits teaching them a lesson about consequences, for a change.
Mike K, If you read my 2nd link, you’ll see that the author concedes that point:
But, he points out that Stone has threatened violence:
Thus, his conclusion seems common-sensical:
Boston Globe:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/04/13/hannity-attempts-link-mueller-whitey-bulger-don-hold/kDPSq2ek8xDTFiPZix4yoL/story.html
At approximately the 4:30 mark the attorney says that the government under the color of Weissmann took criminal intent out of the case. Allow me to be more specific. Weissmann manhandled the judge into altering his jury instructions and eliminate an essential element of the crime of which Arthur Anderson was accused from consideration. The firm shredded documents. In order for Weissmann and his team to convince a jury that shredding those documents was criminal they needed to be able to prove the accounting firm did so in order to avert prosecution. Weismann et all couldn’t prove that. So they strong armed a judge to eliminate that element of the crime from jury consideration.
I hope you all understand just how monstrous the crime family that is the Mueller investigation is.
Really I have no brief for General Flynn as an intelligence professional. But I have a great deal of sympathy for the man as someone who was caught in the sights of a demon like Weissmann who knows no moral bounds and has unlimited resources. I don’t believe he lied to the FBI. For one, the FBI agents didn’t believe he lied to them. For two, as a former director of the DIA he knew that the feds were tapping Ambassador Kislyak’s phone. H2ll, as a low level Naval Intel analyst I knew that. So Flynn not only had no reason to lie but no ability to lie and he knew it. But Flynn copped to the crime because they broke him and threatened to go after his son. Another classic Weissmann move. Go after the family with more false accusations. I know that people like to think they could stand up under this kind of pressure, but try it sometime and see how you like it.
Consider, who is to say whether you lied to federal investigators? Well, it’s the federal investigators who get to say. The people who want to convict you of crimes real or imagined. Fortunately I learned early on, thanks to my dad the sainted Coast Guard Senior Chief, how to deal with this. Hire an attorney. Have your attorney offer to let them, the feds, question his/her client (that’d be you) in the attorney’s office. When the feds show up, the attorney politely offers them water or coffee or whatever and then invites them to sit down. And whips out recorder.
The feds will immediately try to shut down the interview/interrogation as their notes are going to be the only record for purposes of prosecution of what was said. Your attorney then politely tells them that they want to question the client it will be recorded. They will go away and if like the Mueller crew they were only fishing they won’t be back.
I realize it may appear that I am some suspicious character with a lot to hide. Far from it. I merely tried to do my duty but the powers that were were voracious and vindictive. I was serving at a major West Pac intelligence command and it was decreed that we were going joint. As part of our “upgrade” from Pacific Fleet to Pacific Command we had to account for all the hard copy publications entered in to our library.
This particular classified library had been mismanaged while I was still in diapers. Every incompetent that had been assigned to the command that couldn’t qualify for the intelligence watch was sent back to the library. For thirty years. A good friend of mine was threatened with the job but considering he was near his transfer date he called the detailer and got his *** out of there. So now the command stuck my head in the noose and I had no administrative options to escape the calamity. Naturally, I contacted an attorney experienced in matters concerning the mishandling of classified material (What, do I look like Hillary Clinton? Don’t answer that.)
By the time the Pacific Command inspection team arrived I had resolved the status of every publication that had been entered into our inventory one way or the other. Either we still had it, or could confirm it was properly destroyed. Except for two TS/SCI pubs, which had been entered into the library’s inventory nearly a decade before I joined the Navy. No matter, I was responsible for them now. I had until Monday. Miraculously I was able to account for them.
The bottom line is, always have a good attorney. And never, ever talk to the police/investigators. Especially if you are innocent. The worst thing you can do is to have the mindset that if you are innocent you have nothing to hide. You have no idea what the investigator knows or believes to know, or what the investigator’s intentions are. Is the investigator intent on finding the truth. or just closing the case regardless of the truth, or just hunting for scalps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=d-7o9xYp7eE
“Don’t Talk to the Police”
I tend to be a skeptic. I have no reason to trust Ms. Sydney Powell. On the other hand convicting some guy for two felonies for simply offering an opinion of a phone call he hadn’t been in on is exactly the kind of things the feds do. They would have put me in prison for “losing” two classified publications that had been in fact been lost while I was still in high school. And the judge and prosecutor would have known it and been just fine with it as they needed a scapegoat and I was going to be it.
manju:
The “folks” at Lawfare are hardly objective, and interestingly enough (interesting to me, that is, but not to you, because you are in the business of parroting leftist propaganda), they don’t make the proper analogy.
No, it is not “quite normal” to do this to someone in Stone’s position. What’s more, they give no examples of such treatment. They make a general statement that it’s normal—and indeed it is, for dangerous people and/or those for whom the arrest would be a surprise (crime syndicate members, armed drug dealers, etc). It isn’t the least bit normal to do this to someone in Stone’s position—unless, of course, you’re Andrew Weissman.
Stone knew they were coming for him for a very very long time and he had had plenty of time to destroy any evidence that implicated him if that’s what he was going to do. What’s more, he didn’t flee in all that time, and the judge set his bail at a quite low level, indicating he didn’t think he was any flight risk either.
This is what Dershowitz (a liberal Democrat, as you may know) said—and he has a lot of knowledge of what’s normal and what’s not. A video of more of the statement:
But, he points out that Stone has threatened violence:
The last time I am going to bother to respond to you.
Stone is a jerk but he has NO history of any serious threat of violence, unlike thousands of your leftist allies. Neo has posted plenty of examples.
And not reminding you of Bernie bro Hodgkinson who tried killing all the GOP Congressmen.
Boston Globe addresses this (same link as above):
Highlight mine.
Oh, and about the violence Stone threatened. Some of it is almost comical. He has zero history of violence, but he has a huge history as an over-the-top blowhard. The prosecutors were well aware of all of this. They had no serious thought that any of his threats were serious, and the low bail proves it.
This was the threat he issued. I would quote from the article, but it’s really worth reading the whole thing.
Is this Stone?
Manju @ 5:33 p.m. said:
“But, he points out that Stone has threatened violence”
Ooh! I guess that’s why the judge released him on bond within hours of his arrest. He’s such a threat to society.
You’re on the losing end of this argument not matter how you cut it. What violence did he threaten, and against whom? Your vague references to violence as if that authorized a SWAT raid on his home are pathetic. He’s back in that home.
Just walk away if you know what’s good for you.
It’s right there in the indictment.
Sure, the indictment may be false. But once you charge someone with witness tampering via violent threats, you can’t turn around and treat them like a non-violent suspect.
I once said the Raiders were going to slaughter the Steelers.
Yikes. Old Testament level of violent threats right there. I hope that when Meuller sends the FBI to come and get me they send two hostage/rescue teams along with plenty of local PD back up. Because who knows what someone who uses the word “slaughter” while discussing a football rivalry is capable of.
Manju:
I continue to wonder if you’re a fool, or knave, or both.
“It’s right there in the indictment”!!! Yes, and it’s ridiculous, and they know it’s ridiculous, as evidenced by the point Dershowitz made about the bail. They absolutely know that Stone isn’t dangerous, or they would never have agree to such low bail.
By the way, if you’re really interested in learning more about the context (I realize you’re not, but others might want to know), see this:
In that article, Stone adds that he’s 66, owns no firearms, and has an expired passport. Not a flight risk, and of course they all knew it.
By the way, Credico is a NY radio personality and humorist. From his Wiki page:
He’s charged with witness tampering. So they already know he’s willing to tamper with evidence.
What is it about “Prepare to Die” that you do not understand.
“Manju on January 28, 2019 at 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm said:
‘Stone is a jerk but he has NO history of any serious threat of violence, unlike thousands of your leftist allies. ‘
It’s right there in the indictment.
Sure, the indictment may be false. But once you charge someone with witness tampering via violent threats, you can’t turn around and treat them like a non-violent suspect.”
Is this really the hill you want to die on? I have no opinion about Roger Stone. Other than thinking he is kind of goofball. But from what I gather even the people who hate him know that had the feds called his lawyers, who were apparently on their speed dial, Stone would have shown up with his attorneys and surrendered. There was absolutely no need for the predawn raid on Stone’s house. Other than to manufacture that appearance that Meuller et al are dealing with Mexican drug cartel level criminals. Which is of course ridiculous.
I do know certain things about Stone. I know he’s been saying for months that he expected Meuller to indict him. Why then didn’t this Abu Bakr al Fort Lauderdale fortify his position? Why didn’t he flee? I’m just curious. How many pre-dawn raids involving overwhelming force does Meuller have to commit before it dawns on you that there’s no reason for it other than Meuller just likes it?
Manju:
I guess you haven’t read my most recent comment.
That’s being charitable.
Manju, Christ commanded me to prepare to die. You need an FBI hostage/rescue team to go after the Man-God who told Peter to sheath his sword and healed the ear of the Chief Priest of the Sanhedrin?
Now, that’s language I take seriously. I live every day as if it might be my last. On the other hand I gather that hyperbole just isn’t in your lexicon.
I expect the Patriots to MURDER the Rams. Manju, if you feel the need to call the cops and advise them of someone needing SWAT intervention I live in north Texas.
Late to the party, alas. But thank you so much for this clip, Neo. For years it has remained an oft-paraphrased, favorite of mine. A delight to see it again, even if the times are so dire.
Neo, I read it.
What’s your position? Roger Stone lied to congress but when he urged someone else to lie he was just joking?
Talk about fool or knave. You’re going to take Roger Stone’s word for it.
I mean the last time you were this gobsmacked at me was when you were speculating that Mueller would have to apologize to Manafort. How did that work out for you?
“…Stone adds that he’s 66, owns no firearms, and has an expired passport…”
Neo, I feel compelled to point out that as a matter of law had Stone owned any firearms he could not have been compelled to surrender them merely because he was indicted. His passport, yes. Not his guns. Under federal law a person can’t buy any guns or ammunition while under indictment for a felony, but unless they’re convicted of a felony they don’t lose their second amendment rights.
We had an object lesson in this when our governor, Rick Perry, was indicted for two felony counts of abuse of power. He had his arsenal. He kept his arsenal. He just couldn’t add to his arsenal. But as a member of the Dallas Safari Club and after hearing him talk about hunting I can surmise that he like me had enough guns and ammo to last him until he was 220.
The reason I feel compelled to bring this up is to show just how far Manju has gone off the rails. He’s trying to argue that the FBI just had to show up in full storm trooper mode to arrest a sixty six year old man with no political power, no passport, and no guns because of some questionable things he had said. How did law enforcement handle arresting an accused abuser of political who owns an arsenal and had shown no hesitation to use his guns (he shot a coyote while out for a jog back in 2010)? They called his attorneys, and he turned himself in to be booked and released.
No predawn raid ala Roger Stone. But exactly the same result. It’s simply crazy to pretend all that force was necessary.
Manju:
Not Stone’s word for it—the proof that prosecutors didn’t think Stone was dangerous is as Dershowitz says, and it lends credence to Stone’s contention that he was being humorous in the threats, as does the fact that they (Stone and Credico) continued being humorous with each other afterwards.
And I’m curious when you thought I said Mueller would be apologizing to Manafort. In my posts on Manafort, I’ve said many times that I think Manafort is guilty of quite a few things. For example, this and this are rather typical.
But I assume that you’re actually speaking of this post of mine, where I wrote the following:
I was being sarcastic about the apology (just a way to say that Gates was not a person to be believed, and yet he was the star witness testifying as to Manafort’s criminal intent). And I even clarified by writing that won’t happen, of course (meaning any apology). That was not speculation. I made it clear that of course it wouldn’t be happening.
So that worked out for me just fine.
And I don’t think the word “gobsmacked” means what you think it means. You don’t surprise anyone here. The only surprise is why you continue to come here.
Manju is a troll, either a bot or with a pipeline into the DNC for talking points.
Mike K:
A real live troll. Maybe paid or maybe just an amateur.
“this is a deadly serious attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected President and the Government of the United States, an attempt at a coup d’etat carried out by the Left, by many high ranking government officials spread across a number of Cabinet Agencies, and Departments, plus some members of Congress, some Judges in our Courts, and the MSM, a coup attempt—from their silence and lack of counteraction—likely backed by a large majority of the rank and file Federal bureaucracy.
And, if it succeeds, the United States will no longer be a Republic but rather, a banana republic, a form of dictatorship run by the Left and the Deep State, in which the views, the wishes, and well-being of citizens will matter not a whit.” Snow on Pine
The coup is of course to get rid of Trump. If successful it will directly lead to another Civil War. Trump’s ouster will lead to an unleashing of insanity on the left. The Left will reveal its true nature, totalitarians always do when they are ‘certain’ they’ve won.
When you live in a banana republic i.e. a dictatorship… “politics by other means” becomes certain. It will not end well for them.
The Left in its confidence reminds me of that famous scene early in the movie “Gone with the Wind”, where Rhett Butler is watching the young Southern hotheads, in reaction to war having been declared, proclaim that they’ll sweep the Yankees from the field and win the war in record time.
The Southeners understand honor and bravery but are completely ignorant of logistics. Hannibal was stopped and defeated by the Romans by attacking his logistical supply chain. ALL the logistics favor our side.
“Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics”. Gen. Omar M. Bradley
The Left has its passionate ideological intensity. But nothing matches the intensity of a man defending family while faced with the loss of all he holds dear.
Take away all that a man has to live for and you leave him with but one thing, revenge. And revenge, is “a dish best served cold”. The left is playing with fire and they are going to get burned simply because their ideological fanaticism won’t allow them to stop and reflect upon where their path leads.
Sarah Hoyt is a voice crying out a warning to the left. But “none are so blind, as they who will not see”.
herren Müller und Weißmann are teutonic nazis in the worst sense of the word leading a Putsch. those vile vermin will stop at nothing less than turning me and Abigail Kushner into soap bars. may they suffer the way the Muller women did when those racially inferior Russians vanquished Mullerland.And its a pity that people like my uncle died saving west Mullerland from the Russians when you consider that Mullerism began in a Beer Hall in West Mullerland.
Mueller and James Comey are in a hotly contested race for the title of “Worst Public Servant of His Generation”. I keep thinking Mueller has it in the bag and then Comey sho ws up yapping away in some venue. That characters like this were ever in charge of the FBI shows the dangers of maintaining a secret police apparatus in this country. Hoover, Comey, and Mueller are distinguished by their ability to make their consciences their conspirators rather than their guides.
I hope Wray is cut from better cloth. He seems to be engaged in a process of protecting the FBI from Congressional oversight. Let’s hope Barr can bring this beast under control.
You compare a “knock and announce” (as opposed to no-knock) FBI raid orchestrated by Donald Trump’s FBI (as possessed to Mueller’s office*) to Nazi tactics and I’m the one whose gone off the rails…ooooookaaaaay.
*”Lest you believe Mueller’s office or the Justice Department decides how many agents are deployed for an arrest, and what type of hardware they’re armed with, you’re mistaken. The FBI makes that call. Prosecutors draft indictments and litigate in court on behalf of The People. They leave the sweet science of apprehension tactics and techniques to other professionals.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-the-armed-fbi-raid-on-roger-stones-home-was-justified-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-collusion
““Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics”. Gen. Omar M. Bradley”
That was Clausewitz. Bradley studied neither. He did study politics.
“Donald Trump’s FBI”
The biggest lie yet.
Manju seems to like to argue, and get attention, but he’s pretty clearly not a fool. Perhaps best to ignore him? Yet his biased link to the Dems who think pre-dawn SWAT raids are ok is the kind of interesting thing I usually don’t read, but probably should read a bit more of.
The Dems, like all smart people, know how to tell lies to themselves which they believe. This is one of them. The Stone SWAT raid was FBI bullying — but Stone is not innocent of some hyperbolic joking(?) threats, which, if taken seriously, would justify the SWAT raid.
That’s part of an important point — most people are not saints, therefore they are not innocent. Therefore, if they become a target, an FBI that bullies folk can bully you into pleading guilty (like Flynn), or bully those who work for you.
The FBI criminals need to be investigated and indicted for various crimes committed, and punished if found guilty. Then maybe they will “learn”. But who watches the watchers? Who investigates the investigators?
The FBI now is certainly NOT “Trump’s FBI”, nor is it Trump’s DOJ. The Dem deep state is fighting back.
The USA is already in a gray area where “rule of law” does not apply fairly to the chosen elite. This is already scary.
You realize, of course, that everyone involved in this attempted coup can’t let any of the key documents see the light of day–ever. See the FBI/DOJ’s refusal to release a whole host of documents that Congressional Committees and members of Congress have repeatedly asked and, then, demanded they release–to no avail.
Can’t have the Cabal’s actions exposed and evaluated by anyone who is a neutral, honest observer, or they’re toast.
So, Cabal members are going to be spending the rest of their lives with the possible disclosure of their roles and actions –and the realizations of just exactly what they were up to, and what their objective was–coming to light. It’s going to be a Sword of Damocles hanging over their heads.
The members of this Cabal are going to be real touchy if someone starts to get too near to the landmine they’re sitting on. That’s how I view the occasional eruptions of former CIA Director Brennan.
Given a compliant and allied MSM this massive coverup might just last, but–if the dam breaks–if someone can pierce the veil of secrecy and obfuscation and publicize what they’ve found, get their findings out to a wide enough audience, it may well be that Cabal member’s goose is cooked.
This of course, presupposes that there are enough people left here in the good ol’ USA who can recognize what happened, and who will be outraged enough to insist on real, actual, by the book investigations, arrests, and prosecutions.
Unless, of course, its already too late, and ordinary people are already frozen out–no longer able to influence a government that’s actually a captive of and run by the Deep State.
T on January 28, 2019 at 3:36 pm at 3:36 pm said:
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In 2013 Salena Zito wrote a meaningful column about the entire
prospect of referent power under Obama:
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Salena Zito is a treasure.
Which makes me wonder, in light of the exchanges above, if the FBI was taking Stone literally AND seriously.